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IGN Happy Hour: Phil Spencer Special

The Xbox boss joins the IGN AU Pubcast crew to talk Scorpio, the evolution of Xbox One and surviving Microsoft in the age of Clippy.

NewMonday3527d ago (Edited 3527d ago )

wearing a ReCore shirt and said he is "proud" of the game, guess that is his standard. maybe this is why X1 exclusives have the lowest Metascore averages.

Phil said Todd Howard gave them technical advice for Scorpio, probably the worst developer to ask for technical advice

Spencer sticking with the "true 4K" slogan, digging himself in a big hole, not winning the trust of neutrals.

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joel_c173526d ago

@infected

NMS is a sony 1st party game now?

The order launched fine - it just wasnt a great game.

Driveclub was horrendous though

goldwyncq3526d ago

They promoted it as such so yeah.

NewMonday3526d ago

only Driveclub problems were network related and they got fixed

ReCore itself is broken

game4funz3526d ago

Sony did say it would be treated like a first party triple A. That all ended as soon is it got a horrible reception of course.

game4funz3526d ago (Edited 3526d ago )

Not true. But I assume your not counting the countless pc exclusives.

With regards to Todd Howard that is good news as he is a great developer and makes games people continue to play for many years. And if they can get something as complicated unpredictable massive and detailed as a fallout or elder scrolls in 4k native. Then all other games will reach that. Name me an open world as big as theirs that can compare. Take your time. Although I do think their best work was morrowind.

And that last part is quite confusing. Winning the trust of neutrals? Now that sounds stupid. Neutrals don't care about this trust you speak of. We play what we want where we want and when we want. The companies are just that, companies.

Recore was not unfinished. Did you play it? Probably not. The combat is fluid and fun and so is the platforming so it was obviously tested. Quality control depends on what they're going for. It could have used some more Polish. But many games release while. Needing more Polish. Even on Playstation.

rainslacker3525d ago

You're assuming Bethesda, or maybe the Scorpio, could deliver an open world game on the level of FO or ES.

I'd say it maybe can, if it maintained last gen graphics, and some of the details turned down.

But yeah, Bethesda could make that, because they half ass everything console, including XBox, so I don't see why they'd be the go-to mention for bragging about getting technical advice from a developer. Bethesda games are buggy and poorly optimized, regardless of platform. That doesn't make them good for saying what should go into a console, because that means they'd probably just prefer more power so they can simply half ass it even more. At best, it's worth asking them what they'd like from a console.

To put it in perspective, after quite a few updates, one could manage to get a stable always above 30fps 4K out of FO4 on PC with a 980ti card under ideal PC conditions. That comes in at 5.6TFlops. All good you say, Scorpio is 6TFlops. But the game varied so much in frame rate, and 30fps is where it was recommended it be played at by most analysis sites. But the funny thing is, mods out there do a better job than Bethesda ever tried to do with any of their products....including 4K, although they require a pretty hefty GPU to run well.

Stock FO4 runs better on some newer cards which are more powerful, but you aren't going to be getting impressive 4K gaming from Bethesda on consoles. It's just not in their history to even try.

I do agree that Howard is a great designer, I just question his expertise on advising for the design of a game console. Surely there are more qualified people out there which could be cited. This sounds like MS just trying to throw out a big name, and hoping people get excited.

miyamoto3526d ago (Edited 3526d ago )

I knew Microsanto and IGN are up to no good again lately. PR BS campaign.

They never learn.
Where is Aaron Greenberg?
Told to shuddap?

rainslacker3525d ago

Well....if it's Tood Howard at least you know where they got 6TFlops. Bethesda loves to use muscle to overcome it's shortcomings in optimization. Now if they could just make an efficient game which looks great and without the bugs, then maybe they'd be onto something. Granted, their games aren't bad beyond the bugs and poor optimization.

Not sure how they rank in terms of technical knowledge of hardware....seems hardware designers would be more equipped to answer those technical questions, with devs just saying what they want to achieve. Let the engineers figure out how to enable that.

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PlayableGamez-3526d ago (Edited 3526d ago )

Lucy is hot.

KiwiViper853525d ago

I found her drinking alcohol, to be rather unattractive and unprofessional. It might've been a different story if they were all drinking, but as soon as Phil opted for water, she should have too.

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma30d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay30d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran830d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger30d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2330d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an interview with Author Mike Diver about his pending book on Aliens video games.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay31d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn232d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn231d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown31d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay31d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay31d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac31d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger32d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300032d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde32d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde31d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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