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HDR : What it really is and its implications

By Patrick Landry:
After the much publicized launch of the Xbox One S with its new features and the information given during this week’s PlayStation Meeting, a lot of people around me were wondering what really is HDR and how does it affect gaming. To be honest, at first, I didn’t know what to answer, because the only time I’ve seen this acronym is on my digital camera and when it was on, the result of taking a picture was a much bigger file but a much clearer image. These are the results of my research.

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joeorc3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

For many that do not know, that HDMi chip inside the PS4 is not just for simple output signals only to the Display...there is more inside that HDMi chip than just thr backend to the connection HDMi connection port , than just being a connection!

[The new HDMI 2.0-compliant communication LSIs have the following features:

- Display of 4k 50/60p images in true ultrahigh definition
4k 50/60p images can be transmitted with existing Category 2 HDMI cables

- Simplified device design and improved interoperability
The LSIs support the scramble function to reduce electromagnetic interference (EMI)[3] and use Panasonic's own high-speed differential transmission technology to enhance transmission characteristic.

- Anticipated contribution to widespread use of 4k devices due to the compliance with the global standard
Available in two versions - MN864777 (24.0 x 24.0 mm) and MN864778 (20.0 x 20.0 mm), the LSIs can be used in various 4k applications, from consumer devices to broadcast, industrial and automotive equipment.

- Display of 4k images from existing Full HD video-source thanks to image enhancement functions (MN864777)
The image enhancement functions include 4k 50/60p Scalar[4] and Super Resolution Circuit[5].

Notes:
*1 For an HDMI 2.0 compatible semiconductor, as of September 12, 2013, according to Panasonic data.
Explanation of Technical Terms

[1] HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface)
HDMI is a digital audio/visual output interface standard for digital consumer electronics and AV devices
[2] 4k 50/60p
4k 50/60p refers to the resolution of the images being displayed. Standard specifications are 3,840 x 2,160 pixels with a frame rate of 60 fps. PEL Format 4:4:4
[3] Electromagnetic Interference (EMI)
Unwanted electromagnetic waves that cause electromagnetic interference
[4] 4k 50/60p Scalar
Function that upsamples Full HD Images to 4k 50/60p in real time
[5] Super Resolution Circuit
Technology that displays super high definition images upconverted from Full HD Images to 4k 50/60p images]

http://news.panasonic.com/g...

That's the very series of HDMi LSI chip onboard the PS4's

It can upscale standard Blu-Ray Discs! Through its HDMi port for Video & picture..without required GPU& CPU doing any of the heavy lifting!

That's also one of the reasons why No BD-UHD movie playback.. It's a game machine 1st..with Playstation VUE & Standard BD- Playback, and Sony being a movie & TV show content provider..the fact all PlayStation 4's are also cord cutting live Cable TV streaming Box with DVR functionality to included into every PS4..there is a pretty good chance they felt the Video playback support was rather taken care of in view of not increasing the cost just to add the In BD-UHD Movie Playback , and since the movie cost per disc for BD-UHD just like Original BD discs were high cost during the PS3 cycle..Sony no doubt wanted to keep pricing lower.

HDR10 was no doubt again a better choice in inclusion due to HDR can be used in Gaming for the Color depth as well as lighting.

LexHazard793524d ago

So it will allow for 4K upscale, but still wont be a native content.

joeorc3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

@BakPAin3m ago
[So it will allow for 4K upscale, but still wont be a native content]

No , that is not what that is saying, all PlayStation 4's HDMi port controller's have a built in Upscaler inside the HDMi controller chip.

The PS4Pro has not only that , but enough umph to provide "Some" native 4K games. From say the PS3 era, and Some Early PS4 type digital releases.

The 4K Upscaler controller through its HDMi is there for Video & pictures for all PS4's no matter if it's the original , Slim or the Pro.

[TheCommentator27m ago
If that's the case, Joe, why did Sony only patch HDR into the PS4 and not 4K streaming as well? I thought you said the chip did all of the heavy lifting so why not? Sony knew the 1S does 4K streaming and HDR, yet still left it out of the update even though you need a 4K TV to display HDR? Something isn't right, either with your logic, with the chips' capabilities, or with Sony's need to want you to upgrade to the Pro to display anything in 4K. I don't know which.]

Because the patch is for enabling the 2.0a back end the upscaling functionality is there, streaming 4k and upscaling are not the same thing. For instance the standard BD resolution can be displayed as what 1080p..right?
When a Movie is played where does the optical drives data gets to send the output to?

It's sends that signal to where? Through to the Display right?

Can a standard BD movie be upscaled to 4k?

Straight from the FAQ:

Q: What screen resolutions will PS4 support?
A: PS4 will support 480p, 720p, 1080i, and 1080p video standards via HDMI output.

Q: Will PS4 support 4K content for video or gaming?

A: Support for high-resolution 4K output for still images and movie content is in consideration, but there are no further details to share at this time. PS4 does not currently support 4K output for games.

http://blog.us.playstation....

Notice this

[PS4 does not currently support 4K output for games.]

Notice it does not say Movies or Pictures but does list games even back in 2013 when that FAQ released!

But here we are HDR has been added! And it's HDR10!

Many on here such as yourself stated how could Sony have had implementation to HDR10 , than many such as yourself claimed it was not true HDR, like it was just Software work around based or a hacked ver or cut down version..but the official response from Sony is its HDR10!

But even with it stated by Sony , you and others still refuse to believe it to be true.

The HDMi chip controller was forward ready for 4K video & picture output.. The hardware is there. Just like HDR had to be patched in so would such for any of the software patches for that HDMi controller..it's not that hard to understand.

TheCommentator3524d ago

If that's the case, Joe, why did Sony only patch HDR into the PS4 and not 4K streaming as well? I thought you said the chip did all of the heavy lifting so why not? Sony knew the 1S does 4K streaming and HDR, yet still left it out of the update even though you need a 4K TV to display HDR? Something isn't right, either with your logic, with the chips' capabilities, or with Sony's need to want you to upgrade to the Pro to display anything in 4K. I don't know which.

gbsrnctaln3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

So Netflix 4k through ps4 is not native? It looks identical through ps4 or tv app. Or maybe I havent taken the time to really compare?

kstuffs3524d ago

The PS4 does not use the chips that you identified. It uses MN86471A which there's no specifications since it appears to be custom. But you cant simply conclude it has all of the features that you mentioned. Second if you look at other chips differing by even one number can be the difference between HDMI 2.0 amd 1.4b. Is it possible the PS4 has HDMI 2.0? Yes. But it's not based on that pressroom news release.

UnR34L_DEAF3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

HDR is real thing and Im happy that I got 2016 Sony Bravia Smart 4KTV w/ HDR 10. Beautiful screen. Now November 10 I can't wait for.

game4funz3524d ago

HDR has been a real thing since E3. Im glad it is now finally getting the attention it deserves.

mogwaii3524d ago

The input lag though, terrible

gbsrnctaln3524d ago

Ive heard about this. Experienced it yourself?

UnR34L_DEAF3523d ago (Edited 3523d ago )

Nah, lol I have this 2016 Sony Bravia 4KTV w/ HDR 10 and its 33ms low latency. Avoid OLED at any costs since its over 100 ms latency-- very bad.

mogwaii3523d ago

@UnR3L_DEAF thats pretty good, well would be if you knew which tv he has cause he didnt put a model number, the numerous reviews ive read on the 2016 sony 4k tvs all say they had really bad input lag, my 1080p sony 55hz925 has 30ms and even that is thought of as bad re gaming but you are right about oled cause they are shocking which really sux cause how awesome would it be to game on an oled with low input lag!

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA25d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY25d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay25d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos25d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7225d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY25d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator25d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum25d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z25d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad26d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga25d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot24d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose26d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE25d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername25d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy25d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde25d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8625d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8625d ago (Edited 25d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole25d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300025d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot26d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle25d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7725d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments