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PS4 Pro vs Xbox Scorpio: Everything we know about the specs

FENIX Bazaar writes: Sony and Microsoft have changed the console industry, perhaps irreversibly. The PS4 Pro and Xbox Scorpio represent a fascinating shift in hardware strategy for the companies.

At this stage it certainly appears as though both fit into the “upgrade” category based on the specs. We can confirm about Xbox Scorpio is that it will act as an incremental update without game exclusives, at least not initially. That means it’ll be marketed and sold alongside the Xbox One, but that might just be to keep current Xbox One owners at bay while the Scorpio establishes a foothold in the market. Irrespective of the direction both Sony and Microsoft intend on taking, it doesn’t at this stage seem like either will offer categorically different experiences to what we’re already getting on Xbox One and PS4, even if the Scorpio is set to cost significantly more than both the Xbox One.

As for the PS4 Pro, Sony calls it an “upgraded” PS4 for the “higher-tier” player. So what’s under the hood? Let’s take a look, and compare it with the Scorpio.

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SpaceRanger3554d ago

For now, one exists and the other doesn't for another year. No need for these articles since there's nothing to compare.

gangsta_red3554d ago

The leaked specs were spot on for the PS4 Neo and MS has already confirmed Scorpio and it's specs so far.

I think it's more than okay to compare.

SpaceRanger3554d ago

Like I said, one exists and will come out in two months. But like always Xbox owners will continue waiting till next fall.

Seems to be a trend this gen...hmm

Eonjay3553d ago

I have to agree with space ranger. Comparisons on specs is cool but do we do this for the next year. It will get old really soon. Everyone expects the Pro to look good (based on actual evidence) and we expect the Scorpio to offer even higher fidelity based on the mentioned specs. For me, I'm more excited to see how the year delay will work for Microsoft in terms of pricing. And on Sony's end, I am excited to see how a year advantage will play out in terms of whats available now. And thats the key, when the system launches the comparisons will be Xbox One S vs PS4 Pro as those are the two major offerings that will be currently released.

gangsta_red3553d ago

We compare everything else on this site over and over again. There's even a large redundancy when discussing which console is better or who has the best games or anything else that is common conversation on this site. I find it very strange that comparing the Scorpio and Neo is either off limits or will get old.

As I said before I believe with the information we have it's fair to compare specs for each console. Features is grey since as both of you said or might have mentioned Scorpio isn't out yet.

darthv723553d ago

I say it's okay to compare specs. We know what P4P specs are and what the minimum of Scorpio is so it is okay to compare the two. Hell... we even 'sort of' know what the NX is going to be using so throw that in the mix as well.

OB1Biker3553d ago

It's getting ridiculous though if that goes on and on for like a year. One side a working console and on the other side a sheet of paper with numbers on it.

GameNameFame3553d ago

I love how xbox fanboys all about Specs.

PS4 had 18 Compute Units and Xbox One had 12 Compute Units. Unit cores were same for both console.

Back then, 40 percent power difference didnt matter. If it is higher than 720 P resolution, their eyes cant see smaller pixel, so it didnt matter.

Also, paper spec did not translate to performance. according to xbox fanboys.

This is just hilarious.

Aenea3553d ago

Optical? UHD drive? 8GB or more RAM? GDDR5? Give me a complete list of the specs please!

UltimateMaster3552d ago

The Scorpio feels more like an next-gen leap from it's predecessor than an upgrade.
Granted, the Xbox One was weak and underwhelming while the PS4 Pro didn't change that much.

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gangsta_red3554d ago

Not a problem, I am sure Sony fans are waiting on pins and needles to see what the Xbox camp has in store as usual.

They seem to be more excited over Xbox news then actual xbox fans...hmmm.

SpaceRanger3554d ago

Nope, no waiting here. Too busy playing games all year long and getting new hardware to be so invested.

Xbox news? What Xbox news??

343_Guilty_Spark3553d ago

They will need new drawers when Scorpio drops.

PhilSpincer3553d ago (Edited 3553d ago )

@ 343_guilty_Spark

"They will need new drawers when Scorpio drops"

Huh? Are you trying to imply the scorpio is a piece of crap?

gangsta_red3554d ago

That's really funny because I'm also playing games all year long. Maybe even more than you.

"Xbox news? What Xbox news??"

You already forgot?...the news where you were having a Friday night dance fest over one Xbox tweet.

SpaceRanger3554d ago

Hmm, yeah I don't think so. Maybe more games shooting aliens, but that's about it. Those honestly don't appeal to me at the scale that story driven games and small indie games do.

Haha one thing😂 Look at all the news you're on for the PS4. Look at all the guys like Rookie and Magiciandude making as many accounts as possible to be involved in all of the great news. Yeah, that post was anything but the great news from today. Just a bunch of failed PR is all that other tweet was.

SCW19823554d ago

How old are ya dude cause from your last 2 posts you sound like you graduated to teenage hood. If that's not the case than all I can say is grow the hell up.

gangsta_red3554d ago (Edited 3554d ago )

Actually there's more than just shooting aliens, a few also happen to be story driven games, also I have few select indie games. But I learned that being indie doesn't necessarily make a game good, or saying you play 'indie' games gives you some sort of high brow status points.

"...Look at all the news you're on for the PS4"

And why wouldn't I be in the news for PS4? They currently have a huge flop on their hands, NMS that I was highly disappointed with and they just announced a new console, not to mention I own a PS4. Not really sure what point you're trying to make. Especially when I can see your comments talking about the xbox just as much.

"Look at all the guys like Rookie and Magiciandude"

Then take a look at XboxFail, KingThrash plus others who were not banned (oddly enough) and still continue to be in every Xbox article talking sh*t. I think we can agree that both sides have their black sheeps.

KiwiViper853554d ago

That's weird. I remember debating specs was all the rage back in 2013, before the consoles were released.

I wonder why it's a taboo subject now?

SpaceRanger3554d ago

Maybe because they're debating specs on something that exists and something that doesn't yet. How hard is that to understand? It's not that difficult of a concept to grasp.

I guess you all would be perfectly fine if all you read next year is comparisons of Scorpio announced specs to PS5 speculated specs right?

KiwiViper853554d ago (Edited 3554d ago )

I said before the consoles were released... there was a solid 6 months of spec comparisons, and you remember those days fondly, don't pretend.

If there's some substance to the PS5 spec rumours, or Sony comes out saying 10Tf or something, then that would make for great discussion around these parts, wouldn't it?

I can't imagine why someone would be opposed to discussing and comparing upcoming consoles... probably the same reason why guys with little dicks get changed in the toilet stall.

SpaceRanger3554d ago

"...probably the same reason why guys with little dicks get changed in the toilet stall."

We're just talking about consoles man. Chill the hell out. Your points are moot if that's the level of maturity you have on this site. You're putting yourself in the same category as Rookie.

KiwiViper853554d ago

I'm honoured you think that.

Rookie is my hero.

AngelicIceDiamond3554d ago

"Just a bunch of failed PR is all that other tweet was." Truth be told X1 S does 4K upscaled just like the Pro. X1 S https://www.vg247.com/2016/... Pro also 4k upscales so there's some truth to it.

Lennoxb633553d ago

So let me get this straight. You think MS would announce something that doesn't exist on one of gaming's biggest stages? You have to be insane.

SpaceRanger3553d ago

You don't remember Milo do you? You should have seen the fanboys on that one saying Kinect was the future. How about way back when they first announced Halo2 (I remember that one). Looked nothing like the finished product..but was amazing night nonetheless story wise. Nothing has changed.

2cents3553d ago

I agree.

It is the year of the PS Pro, no need for the war to start now.
We have the current one to deal with and the NX will be with us soon, and we all know what happens when the Nintendo hornets nest is stirred...

It will no doubt be Pro vs NX
Oh what fun times ahead :)

Lennoxb633553d ago

You're talking about an entire system though. Not games and gimmicks. You think MS would let Sony go unchallenged? lol

fanboysmackdown3553d ago

Yes and in one year there will be way more affordable 4k hdr tv's on the market and how many people own them today? Not many Jack, and I know who's getting my money next November and who's not and it won't be the cheap asses who left out 4k bluray. You sound like another butthurt Sony flag waver.

Prubar3553d ago

One doesn't exist? Pfffhahahaha wtf are you talking about? MS announced Scorpios existence before the Pro. And then you bent up PS5? Something that legitimately hasn't been announced.

URNightmare3553d ago

Again, I don't know why people keep comparing PRO with Scorpio. Compare it to XBO S!!

KiwiViper853553d ago

No. Compare the Xbox one s to ps4 slim.

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maybelovehate3553d ago (Edited 3553d ago )

Or just go ahead and build a PC with parts that are already out that will beat them both easily.

GameBoyColor3553d ago

This is my train of thought. It's obvious that the Scorpio will be pretty expensive, so that means people who plan on buying it probably have the money for a pc. If that's the case, why wait a year? Just build or buy premade now and you'll have an all around entertainment system and yes, you can "sit on the couch and use the big screen".

With xbox games coming to pc you'll be set lol.

343_Guilty_Spark3553d ago

It's not obvious considering its purported GPU is currently $200 and will be even cheaper by 2017. You're just hoping its more expensive. I bet it launches at $399.

Lennoxb633553d ago

"Then the scorpio or pro isn't really for the average consumer as the most affordable solutions are already on the market. If they didn't care about better, why would they look at these upgraded consoles?"

$400 is in the range of the average consumer. So is $500. $600 will put you on the edge. Compared to a PC of the same spec as a Scorpio or PS4P, these are very affordable for the average consumer. A PC of the same spec at the cheapest would be around $900-$1000.

Lennoxb633553d ago (Edited 3553d ago )

You try building a PC at the same price of the Scorpio or PS4P lol. You guys kill me with this "Build a PC" rhetoric. It's like telling someone shopping for a car to just build one instead of buying and driving one off the lot for a lot cheaper and hassle free.

@GameBoyColor
You can def compare building a car to building a PC. You still need the knowledge of how a car works. Same with PC. And it's not like legos with either. Each part has to compatible, tested, and you have to make sure not to fry your computer/break a part in your car.

GameBoyColor3553d ago

You know the price of the scorpio? Here's the thing it's rumored to have vega/zen. Those are NEW even by the time it gets put into the scorpio, it WILL be expensive. I wanna say 599. With about 100-200 more dollars you can build a pretty good skylake pc with either a 1060 or 470 around 800. Like I said, if I'm right, the people buying the scorpio anyway definitely have the money so this isn't even a problem.

You can't compare building a car to putting together a pc btw. A pc is like connecting some legos which everyone can do easily. what are you even trying to say there?

maybelovehate3553d ago

It will cost more, but it will be better. And it will also be upgradeable for the future.

mark3214uk3553d ago (Edited 3553d ago )

you can build a pc that plays games as good as native 4k for £350?

there are people on the pc forums asking about sony's algorithm so they can have 4k gaming for cheaper than an expensive gpu, check out the comparisons ps4 pro using the 4k rendering algorithm makes the graphics on par with a $1200 native 4k gaming rig

GameBoyColor3553d ago

Native? It's up scaling and still at 30fps

zb1ftw7773553d ago

And then get to play games that run worse than their console counterparts xx

GameBoyColor3553d ago

Those were exceptions from terrible companies. Actually, it was just WB lmao Mk and batman were shit.

2cents3553d ago

True, but it's just not the same thing for console gamers.

Gaming is rooted in consoles, Starting 1972, The Magnavox Odyssey, Atari, Colecovision, Nintendo, Sega...

Nothing wrong with PC, just saying console gaming is a deep rooted passion that transcends generations.

Nitrowolf23553d ago (Edited 3553d ago )

I just recently shelled out about 1 thousands dollars on a new build. I'm happy about it being able to play most on ultra, but regardless consoles are a hell of a lot more affordable, and still my preference platform.

You also get a lot more out of the box in comparison to a pc of equal pricing

@may

I should have been a lot more specific that made me chuckle,

IN terms of gaming, for $400 PS4Pro vs a 400 dollar pc, you are getting a lot more.

Of course PC in general run have far more features than consoles will ever have.

But I doubt you're going to get a 4K enabled PC for that price with performance that is acceptable

maybelovehate3553d ago

I disagree about more. PC can run over a million applications. Besides being able to run games better.

Lennoxb633553d ago

The average consumer doesn't care about better. They care about the most affordable, easiest solution to playing the latest games. That's it.

GameBoyColor3553d ago

Then the scorpio or pro isn't really for the average consumer as the most affordable solutions are already on the market. If they didn't care about better, why would they look at these upgraded consoles?

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2cents3553d ago

And it starts...

N4G submitters please... Don't swamp the place with PS Pro Vs. Scorpio Articles.

Please.

It's such a long wait till both will be side by side... For the love of...

hells_supernova3553d ago

Can we please make something clear.

One is a mid gen leap PS4Pro

The other is a next generation console kicking it off early and screwing over their customer base again like the original xbox with a short generation change.

Lennoxb633553d ago

The Scorpio isn't powerful enough to be next gen. You guys keep trying to create a divide between the Scorpio and the Pro just so people would ignore the power difference.

snoopgg3553d ago

But when you compare the power difference of the xboxone and price of xboxone to the scorpio, it really does seam like a next gen console. I just remember how hard it was for Sony with the ps3 so much more expensive in the beginning.

sammarshall1023552d ago

Yeah and it's weird

Before thethe lower specs of the Pro (Neo) were confirmed, it was absolutely fine to compare them

Toiletsteak3553d ago

What the F are you talking about??? Microsoft has already said it's not a new gen, it's going to have all the same games the OG will have.

snoopgg3553d ago

You cant believe everything MICROSOFT says on the Internet. Im still waiting for all those games using the cloud to show up on the xbox one.

OB1Biker3553d ago (Edited 3553d ago )

I think they said there won't be a new gen ever again and that's how it's going to be from now on with 'gaming beyond generation'
Seems they have now a different approach than PlayStation. Which said many time they want to keep a traditional console cycle with a new gen in time but PS4p is just a sort of elite PS4 of the same generation

343_Guilty_Spark3553d ago

Microsoft said there are no gens

Lennoxb633553d ago

MS isn't doing gens anymore regardless of the power gap. They are just going to be releasing consoles every 4 or so years that are powerful enough to run the next round of games. All games from will be forward and backward compatible as long as the power holds up on the previous console.

hells_supernova3553d ago

But how long is it until that is no longer viable. a year or two max. Third parties will drop support fast for the likes of Battlefield and the big graphics bound games, first party will be pushed to make the newer box shinier so we all buy it

GearSkiN3553d ago

for me I'm glad scorpio won't come out till next year, felt sony 4k console was too quick...

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Sony Looking To Sell A Lot Of PS4 Pro's Come Christmas Says Jim Ryan

In a recent interview with GamesIndustry.biz , Sony's Jim Ryan talked a bit about the PS4 Pro and how they had underestimated its demand.

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donthate3267d ago

According to Pachter, the PS4 Pro sales aren't doing very good. Maybe drop the price $50 and bundle in a game since Xbox One X is coming?

thatguyhayat3267d ago

Patcher baffles himself sometimes. Ps4 pro is doing really well

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3267d ago

Agreed. If 1 in 4 PS4's being sold is a Pro anything Pachter says about PS4 Pro sales numbers should be completely ignored.

bigmalky3267d ago

You can buy a PS4 Pro, with Horizon and Wipeout for £350 in the UK at the minute. Basically, you're getting the console for £280... I'd say that's a bargain. Why do people keep asking for another £50/$50 off when plenty of places do bundle deals with great prices?

Ju3267d ago

I have the feeling there is a price cut coming for the holidays.

LamerTamer3267d ago

They will have a hard time with X1X out.

bigmalky3267d ago

No they won't. Most parents will probably go for the cheaper option for Christmas presents. Most gamers that were waiting for a price for XoX, unless they're die hard Microsoft fans or spec junkies, will see that Sony have a cheaper option with huge exclusives coming in the new year, along with third party titles that will probably look little different to their XoX counterparts.

It's amazing how biased opinions seem to speak for the entire gaming population, instead of looking at people as beings that can, and will, use logic.

Petebloodyonion3267d ago

Most parents will go for the basic version of Ps4 or Xbox1 instead of a pro or X1X.
Most parents will ask if it's play COD, FIFA or GTA since theses are the biggest sellers on both platforms.
Most parents don't have freaking clues about the exclusives coming on Xbox or PS4 just like you probably don't have a clue about exclusive deals coming on Apple music.

It's amazing how N4G hardcore gamers seem to speak for the entire gaming population, instead of looking at people as beings that can, and will, follow the herd of COD/ GTA/ FiFA.

bigmalky3267d ago (Edited 3267d ago )

@Petebloodyonion

If you read my post properly, you'll see that I said parents will go for the cheaper console. I never even mentioned whether that's the upgraded models or not.

As for the games, it was in regard to gamers wanting a console, not the parents. Totally different sentence and subject.

It's amazing how people would actually look less like idiots if they actually read an entire post, before jumping on someone's comments.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3267d ago

If Sony drops the price of the Pro and it's $150 cheaper than the $500, checkerboarding beast, the only thing Sony will have a hard time doing is shipping Pro's to retailers.

bigmalky3267d ago

They don't need to drop the price. You can buy a Pro with one or two games in a package for £100 cheaper than an XoX with nothing on it's release.

LIGATURE3266d ago

I love ps4 but if the x gives all the multiplat games at least 1080/60 and update past multiplat games then id go for the x.but id get a switch before ither😂

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