Xbox One S performance boost revealed

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ShowanW3454d ago

smart of MS not to brag and market some of the performance gains...

letting consumers discover these performance gains on their own was a smart choice...

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starrman19853454d ago

If they announced it earlier there would have been tons of articles about how they are screwing over the original console owners, sales might have taken a hit etc. If they announced it after there would be tons of articles about how they are screwing over the original console owners..

They'll probably say it's contributing to the 4K output, HDR processing options etc, personally as an original owner of the Xbox One I don't give a damn! I am glad it's getting quite high pre-orders by the sounds of it!

thekhurg3454d ago

They did announce it at E3. Not sure what rock people were living under.

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starrman19853454d ago

I think he is referring to the power increase, they ended up denying it had any improvement over the original one.

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nix3454d ago

no smart company would brag about the extra performance. that will be termed as "screwing the original owners".

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Kingthrash3603454d ago (Edited 3454d ago )

Ueah, they lie alot for the sake of sales.
I don't see what harm it would have been to just say it's 8 percent more powerful. ..sounds miner enough not to lose sales and be honest at the same time. But hey what works for them works.
I think it's funny how the article says "significant power efficiency over the older model" I hate that kind of deceitful word play. The scorpio is significant not the s

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TheCommentator3454d ago

They did announce it at E3 and they did say the power was used for the new capabilities of the One S.

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mark_parch3454d ago

phil knows how easy it is for his words to get twisted so he simply said if you already have an xbox don't upgrade to an xbox one s thinking the games will look loads better. he was being extremely honest and transparent. the small boost is mostly due to HDR and just upgraded parts which happens through most generations

rainslacker3454d ago (Edited 3454d ago )

I think it's good they didn't. While it'll be beneficial for some games, it won't be for all, and if they announced a performance increase, people would assume that all games would have it, the fan boys would have their "we win" attitude, and ultimately, it could come in somewhat disappointing to those hoping to get more performance out of the new model.

Nice that EG actually took the time to make it clear that it wasn't for all games.

In either case, the base X1 is likely to remain the spec to build for for compliance reasons. As far as I can tell, there is nothing which states you can have a separate X1S build, and I don't see any reason to based on a 8% GPU gain.

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UltraNova3453d ago

If MS is smart and cares about the 20+ million OG xb1 owners like they say they do then they shoukd mandated that 7% worth of extra power to be used only for 4K or HDR content, not on general game performance.

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rainslacker3453d ago

They'll mandate that it has to run on the stock Xbox. If a game can use the extra power in the X1S, then that's fine, but I don't think most games are going to be designed to take advantage of what would be a fairly marginal gain.

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lastking953454d ago

That's cool, better than nothing i suppose.

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Unspoken3454d ago (Edited 3454d ago )

Very cool. It was supposed to be the same performance.

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Darkwatchman3454d ago

Wish they would have tested AC Unity

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I_am_Batman3454d ago

AC Unity's performance was mainly bottlenecked by the CPU so I doubt that it'll benefit much from the GPU overclock.

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Darkwatchman3454d ago

But like the video said, they don't know the CPU clock speed on it so it could help a tiny bit or not help at all. That came is very close to being a 30 fps game so even just a boost of 1-2 frames on average would help that game immensely

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OpenGL3454d ago

I'd like to see them test Doom and Halo 5 as both utilized dynamic resolution.

EveryPlatformGamer3453d ago

Yes and titanfall which had lots of screen tearing.

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Darkwatchman3454d ago

I wish they could have tested AC Unity as well as some of the more problematic backwards compatibility games

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Movefasta19933454d ago (Edited 3454d ago )

dark souls 2 and 3 on xbox one have bad frame rate,id like to that.Witcher 3 too,it's alost a locked 30 but not quite on the og xbox..

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Dario_DC3454d ago

Very nice and only 400$ on top of the 500$ model you already have! I swear, the next person to say that pc gaming is expensive I'm gonna hit him with a stick!

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Destiny10803454d ago

if you have the original there's zero reason to buy the new one, unless your desperate for 4k movies

pc is more expensive, are you going to link to some pc without a os/keyboard/mouse/controller and is still twice as expensive

I can get every new release on console for twenty bucks, I buy it, I finish it, I trade it back in

Unspoken3454d ago

You trade it back in but people cant sell or trade their og Xbox One for an Xbox One S... you make total sense.

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Corpser3454d ago (Edited 3454d ago )

Yes there reasons, better controller, slight performance boost

And PC is not more expensive at all once you factor in $50-60 a year to play Xbox online.

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343_Guilty_Spark3453d ago

I found plenty of reasons. You can get the 2 tb version with Halo Quantum break and doom for $399 no tax on ebay. I'm selling my original anfld the 3 games.

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lastking953454d ago

More like $200

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Brave_Losers_Unite3454d ago (Edited 3454d ago )

@Dario_DC

You so understand that the new Xbox is not made for pre existing owners of Xbox One. And what the hell are you smoking? $500 for an Xbox One? That was like what 2 years ago? And PC gaming IS expensive unless you are trying to be a budget/mid rig gamer. I payed over $2,000 for my PC and that was me buying the parts separately. If Best Buy or Microcenter were selling my rig in their store you can expect it to cost over $3,000

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Dario_DC3454d ago

What??? You can get an I5 with a Rx480 for cheaps and it will run circles around any Xbox, and if you have an existing PC any 200$ card will destroy the Xbox or PS4 so why do you need 2000$ again?
You people do like to try and bullsh1t others don't ya?

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Corpser3454d ago

Of course we are talking about a budget/mid range PC, your PC is way high end. We are comparing it to a console that play some games only in 720p and many in 900p here

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Brave_Losers_Unite3454d ago (Edited 3454d ago )

@Dario_DC
You also need an operating system, monitor, mouse, keyboard, mousepad

This was your statement... "I swear, the next person to say that pc gaming is expensive I'm gonna hit him with a stick! " For the specs that you get with the Xbox One for its price is decent. You bringing up the $500 price point which included Kinnect and the fact it came out 2 years ago.

I need $2000 because I can play at 144 fps, 1440p resolution. You act like the only thing you need is a PC tower. And you are comparing a $200 card to a console that comes with everything. Seriously edit your post because you look like a fool with that statement

@Corpser

Have you read/considered Dario's ridiculous 1st comment? He suggests that a person will buy both versions of Xbox One when that isn't even the target goal from Microsoft. Then he says it costs $500 when most people that own one didn't pay that price and buy it at HALF for $249. Finally my PC is a high end PC and not a "way high end".

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andresegr3454d ago

Kinect Port NOT included.

Microsoft have to take notes from other companies instead of being so damn anti-consumer.

I wish they could be more like Sony and less like Apple.

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Sm00thNinja3454d ago

Kind of how the PS Camera comes bundled with every PSVR unit right? But were advertising it at $399 when its required? Come on can we at least troll smarter. If you already have the Kinect its a FREE adapter to hook ur old one up. You complain about the kinect being there and when they remove it theyre anti-consumer smh

DragonDDark3454d ago (Edited 3454d ago )

The PSVR without camera bundle is coming at launch ...

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Sm00thNinja3454d ago

DragonDDark yes im well aware my bundle is coming day one without the camera. I have one already. But the system is advertised at $399 becausee it sounds better but that unit is without the camera which is required.

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andresegr3454d ago

"Kind of how the PS Camera comes bundled with every PSVR unit right? But were advertising it at $399 when its required?"

The PS Camera is not bundled with every PSVR dummy.

" You complain about the kinect being there and when they remove it theyre anti-consumer"

I complain about the console NOT having a Kinect port, the Kinect always had to be optional, not the port.

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Tobsesan3454d ago

If you send them your KINECT Code, you get a free adapter sent to you. Guess you didnt do your research

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Sm00thNinja3454d ago

Nice way to show your ignorance andresegr also report for attack. Thats exactly the argument im making. I just said my PSVR day one isnt a bundle smh please read

andresegr3454d ago

I replied to your first comment, dummy. Which i quoted.

Report me all you want, you are free to behave like a child.

Go on.

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Sm00thNinja3454d ago

Yet you are the only one behaving like a child and resorting to insults because youre backed into a corner smh

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TheCommentator3454d ago

Oh, man I can't stand needing a free adapter for the Kinect, vs. having to pay for a port to be included that I'll never use. Anti-consumer tactics be damned, lol!

I'm not sure why you brought up Sony(actually I am), but it's a good thing Sony isn't going to be anti-consumer and make thier flagship VR experience require the Neo... right???

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andresegr3454d ago

"...but it's a good thing Sony isn't going to be anti-consumer and make thier flagship VR experience require the Neo... right???"

Do you even know what you are talking about?

"Sony has reiterated that while PlayStation Neo has upgraded specs, it is not a requirement for PlayStation VR."

https://www.vg247.com/2016/...

You can chose to trust Sony, or that dummy called Sm00thNinja. Your choice.

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Sm00thNinja3454d ago

Andresegr is an obvious troll look at his comment history dont waste your breath. His only defense to any factual statements is to call you a dummy

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Sm00thNinja3454d ago

TheCommentator but Sony has said on several occasions NEO would not be required for VR use?

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TheCommentator3454d ago (Edited 3454d ago )

@ Andresegr and Smooth Ninja

You're focusing too much on the off topic part of this conversation. I didn't want to elaborate on that in the first place, but since you're confused...

Flagship means the best experience possible, not the only way to experience VR, and there will be games that will only play in VR on the Neo. You'll see. Games like Fallout or COD or whatever real games come out could play in VR on Neo but not on PS4. It will happen, and disappointment will set in for many gamers who think that VR on a regular PS4 is going to be much more than gimmicky, half-cocked experiences or real games with PS3 qualiy graphics. It's a classic bait and switch marketing tactic.

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gangsta_red3454d ago

"I wish they could be more like Sony and less like Apple."

https://s3.amazonaws.com/ra...

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meche3343454d ago

You can get an adapter free i heard

343_Guilty_Spark3453d ago (Edited 3453d ago )

Except they give you a free Kinect adapter ass.

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corroios3454d ago

Second overclock on the machine. What were the engineers thinking when they build the machine. Thats something that i would like to read. What were they thinking?

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Unspoken3454d ago

They were thinking about the RROD issues in the past and who lost their job because of it.

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hadowajp3453d ago

The first overclock was on the cpu and that was before launch this is on the totally new 14nm gpu so not actually an overclock

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Edvin19843454d ago

Cool when I get home it should have arrive from Amazon Yay!!!

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XStation4pio_Pro3454d ago

dope. im gonna get the S for now and put it on the 4k tv and when the Scorpio unit comes out, I'll move the S to the smaller office tv and put Scorpio on the big 4k.

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Father__Merrin3454d ago

Nice console but no point in an upgrade is it literally isnt really an upgrade.

raWfodog3454d ago

I still want to eventually get an XB1 so this is good news as any improvement is typically better than none.

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ziggurcat3454d ago

This is unexpected considering that they had already stated that there was no performance increases on the Xbox One S. This is a good thing.

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NotEvenMyFinalForm3454d ago

some games gained nearly 10 frames!

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MCTJim3454d ago

I bought the Madden 17 bundle, I have to wait till the months end for it

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hadowajp3453d ago

Same but it gives me time to get a few uhd Blu-rays

Masta Kaos3454d ago

Power of Ze......☁

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hiawa233454d ago

Nice, I just picked mine up from Best Buy

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King_Lothric3454d ago

This can be good for new Xbox customers but there is no reason for an actual Xbox owner to run and spend $400 for just a little boost. Unless you are so so crazy about watching 4k media, which is lacking right now.

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iceman063454d ago

While I believe it was designed to attract new customers, they KNEW that a small segment of the population would have to have the new console...even if the gains were marginal. There are people that just have to have the "best". The mid gen upgrades, while truly boosting performance, will sell on the same mentality. It seems that generations have gone from spending $400 once (twice or more if you are unlucky...or less if you have to have a slim), to looking at the low end of $800+ for a console and an upgrade and $1000 if you are one that has to have the slim as well. (it could be more, since we have no concrete numbers for the upgrade prices) I understand it's an option. But, it's getting expensive to have the "best" console.

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ZeekQuattro3454d ago

I'm still trying to figure out why Microsoft announced this and about an hour later announced the more powerful Scorpio. Scorpio which looks to be powerful enough to be considered a successor to the original Xbox One that launched in 2013. It just seems odd. I don't feel a need to upgrade to the S because of that.

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VoodooProject3454d ago

I think for those who want the cheapest 4k UHD Blu-ray player and a gaming machine all in one.

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343_Guilty_Spark3453d ago

Because the plan is to have a low and a high end. Derp

DigitallyAfflicted3454d ago

It must be that cloud MS was taking about. They do hold us by the wallets, Sony and Microsoft, we like a bunch of mushrooms kept in dark and fed shit.

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BenRC013454d ago

2 types of hdr out. Buyers beware!

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VoodooProject3454d ago

HDR10 is now the standard. Dolby Vision is commercial use.

rainslacker3454d ago

HDR10 will be in everything, and X1 supports that. Dolby Vision will be used in some places, and probably a lot of UHD BR discs or streaming services, but it's not necessary for most of the content out there as HDR10 is the pretty accepted main format for 4K content. Even if one has a Dolby Vision device, it should support HDR10, although some older devices may require a firmware update.

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hadowajp3453d ago

And hdr10 doesn't require hardware if what I've read is correct so it can be added to most 2016+ sets I'd assume

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rainslacker3453d ago

All HDR TV's being sold now support it. Not sure about LG, or some Chinese brand I can't remember, but I know LG is/has issued a firmware update to include support for older TV's.

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solideagle3454d ago

when were slim version of consoles had performance boost? did it happen in previous generations?
I dont remember PS2, PS3 slim had increased performance than regular model or maybe i am wrong?

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hadowajp3453d ago

I'm not sure but at least they should be more efficient with most having a shrunken die

DarthJay3454d ago

One hidden aspect I LOVE is the power and eject button. I can't even tell you how many times my dog has sniffed my Xbox One and turned it on or I've grazed it and ejected a disc. Now it's an actual button that presses in and it's perfect.

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XBgamer3453d ago

Me too I got my xbox-S yesterday and set it up last night,so glad they changed the power button because I was always brushing past the original Xbox one and switching it ON!

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Maxor3453d ago

The Neo will crush this. Sony hurry up with my Neo!!

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XBgamer3453d ago

The xbox-S isn't meant to be the direct competition for the Neo!. that's where the Scorpio comes in to play..6Tf vs 4.2Tf.

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SojournUK3453d ago (Edited 3453d ago )

I'm sticking with my xbone until the Scorpio, I have a Samsung SUHD tv that supports HDR, some of the tv shows on Amazon prime are HDR compatible (and Netflix are doing more and more too). It looks good but HDR is not a big enough deal to upgrade right now for me.
All the upscaled games will look the same as they do already on my current Xbox as any decent 4k tv already handles upscaling.

So basically, if you've not got a 4k tv and are planning to buy a xbone s and a 4k tv don't, just get a decent 4k tv and enjoy the upscaled goodness out of the box with your original xbone.

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DafunkyRebel3453d ago

Staring at me Xbox One thinking "Did MS just screw me over?" Oh well it still a decent machine and Gears 4 and Forza Horizon 3 is coming so I'll hang on to it a little longer until I beat all those games

sadsatan3453d ago

performance?

XBgamer3453d ago

Up to 11% faster on xbox-S compared to Original Xbox one.

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sadsatan3453d ago

still not enough to eliminate screen-tearing at 1080p

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NohansenBoy3453d ago

Remember, you don't need to upgrade consoles... oh wait.

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sk8ofmnd3453d ago

900P 60 fps confirmed 😂. In all seriousness.. Im a sony pony but even i can see the benefit of this. I sold my day uno ps4 and im waiting for the 299 500 gb. Ive missed out on some great games on the other side of the fence and this is a great way for me to play catch up on ms exclusives.

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