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Is Xbox Scorpio a Next-Gen Console?

Gamespulp looks at the latest Xbox One console specs and decides whether or not the Xbox Project Scorpio is a next-gen machine in all but the marketing guff.

It’s a good job every gamer everywhere was asking for the option of blowing hundreds on a mid-cycle console – because the Xbox Project Scorpio is the ‘We heard you console.’ Or Kinect heard you and relayed everything back to Redmond, at least.

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darthv723611d ago

I'd say yes it is 9th gen level stuff. Neo fits in there as well no matter what Sony says. Both MS and Sony screwed up in the 8th and we are approaching the top of the 9th.

DragonDDark3611d ago (Edited 3611d ago )

We don't know the Neo stuff. If the rumours are true then I can consider it a mid gen upgrade.
Scorpio is too big to be a mid gen console imo.

@TheRedDragon
What @darth said could be true. We may see both consoles going to making exclusives for the new consoles after a bit. But I do wonder how many years will it be until we get an Xbox 2 / PS5 now that mid gen consoles have came out of nowhere.

@darth , I guess so but I hope those mid gen console upgrades stop the next generation.

theRedDragon3611d ago

No, the definition of a full upgrade is when the console gets their own exclusives, a different retail version of third party and first party ports that are different than current generation, uses a new set of proprietary input for accessories like controller.

Both Neo and Scorpio works the same but it is just a different on TFLOP like how the current PS4 is compared to Xbox one. If you considered one next gen, it applies to the other as well. You can't have a totally different definition pertaining for each because the outcome is not what some of you guys are wanting to see.

darthv723611d ago (Edited 3611d ago )

Both will get exclusives no matter what the suits say. They cant hold back progress forever. Sony may start off restricting the Neo benefits same as MS but MS said devs will be able to choose when and how to take advantage of scorpio.

When that happens it wont be long for sony to loosen the reins and let devs go to town. And the accessory argument... ps1 controllers work on ps2 and vice versa. So that is not an accurate assessment.

These beasts cant be contained and i expect them to grow some legs and stand on their own. Which company will 180 on their proposed plan first.... maybe the one with a knack for it perhaps?

@dragon... are you suggesting neo is the 32x of the 8th gen? Could be while they work on a 9th gen unit. PS Oracle or trinity (keeping with matrix theme)

Sunny_D3611d ago

I blame the recession as to why the last gen was so long compared to other gens. Or maybe the push of great looking games throughout the cycle was what kept the companies from releasing new hardware.

Concertoine3611d ago

It was because MS released a console at a 200 dollar loss and Sony a 300 dollar one. They both lost so much money and didnt start really recouping until 2011. The slow release schedule to this day shows that they weren't even ready by 2013 for a new gen.

adonisisfree3611d ago

"Approaching the top of the 9th", clever wordplay my friend ....

rainslacker3610d ago (Edited 3610d ago )

Neither is willing to brand it a new gen, but I see it as one. It has some caveats, such as support for the current gen, which is new, and changes the dynamic of a new gen.

Personally, even if it's not a new gen, which I feel it kind of is, it certainly is a new paradigm for console releases. How well it works out, and whether or not it's good or bad in the end remains to be seen.

I think the idea of generations is being left behind in favor of a more fluid upgrade cycle. If it sticks will depend on how well they sell, and how keen the consumer at large(not just the forum hardcore) adopt the new release cycle.

miyamoto3610d ago

LOL!
Excuse me but you have no authority whatsoever to comment on 8th gen consoles because you said you don't own one.
You don't even understand the power and convenience of a PS4.
Play a PS4 or Xbone first before you babble some nonsense.

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Lennoxb633611d ago

No. It's not strong enough to be a gen leap. Very strong for a console in this day and age though.

Summons753611d ago

This gen didn't bring a very big leap and I highly doubt we will see a massive leap like we did from Xbox/Ps2 to 360/PS3 for a very long time. Yes, this is 100% a next gen system much like NX is a next gen handheld or console (possibly both?) from Nintendo.

Sunny_D3611d ago

We won't be seeing leaps in graphics in general as long as game development stays they way it is because of diminishing returns.

Lennoxb633611d ago

This isn't next gen cause usually, a new gen would bring some hardware realignments or additions for new engines and development practices. This is just a power bump. Not a shift in games or the industry. Well, a small shift in the industry. But not a next gen shift.

Bigpappy3611d ago (Edited 3611d ago )

Yeah. But it is coming this gen. That's why it is a Monster

Majin-vegeta3611d ago

Yes it is anyone who doesnt believe is delusional.MS is making it look like its a "Current gen"console slowly but surely they will stary making exclusive only titles for scorpio thus leaving the original X1 drying up.It's just a way of MS giving up but not coming out and admitting it.Cuz then they would be a laughing stock.I dare anyone to deny this.

Fool me once shame on you.Fool me twice shame on me.

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Concertoine3611d ago

Actually their explanation for the Scorpio is that it represents the end of the generation model for MS.

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Sweendog0073611d ago

If you are going to call project Scorpio a fully next gen Consle ( which to be honest no one knows what generation we are on , we don't walk around saying I own PlayStation 4 I am a 6/7/8/9 generation owner ).. Then playstion 4 must be classified as new consle generation based on specs

The article finished the best way ever by saying it's neither a yes or no , it it's both

People can't pick and chose what the next generation consle is , it's simple to me an upgraded console

If anyone is keeping tabs on generation consoles then fine , but do we actaully care if it's a new generation ? People are still going to buy and play games , and what if they call PlayStation 4 neo ps5 - will the same article be brought up ?

Let the console come out and take it from there instead of talking about stuff that has not happened yet , there is a lot of games coming out. Talk about those

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA16d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY16d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay16d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos15d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7216d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY16d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator16d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum16d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z15d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad16d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga16d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot15d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose16d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE16d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername15d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy16d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde16d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8616d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8616d ago (Edited 16d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole16d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300016d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot16d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle16d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7716d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments