Yea that's where I'm at.

Sony was close to perfection, if they would have dropped FF7/Persona 5 or a Silent Hills for me it would have been 10/10 hands down.

I'm HAPPY they didn't announce Neo, now they can focus on making adjustments if they need to, to REALLY deliver competition to the Scorpio next year.

At 4ish Tflops, the neo couldn't have possibly been a 4k console... Likely just a 1080p/maybe 60 fps garantee later on while the ps4 drops to 720 as the years go by. Now they are likely going to change the neo into a 4k machine.

Well, only time will tell.

M$'s conference was okay... State of Decay 2 and Forza looked really good... But meh..

Zelda looked good but definitely not best of E3

Main criticism for me was how lifeless the world looked for being open world

@Herbalistic
"I'm not in the target audience for Xbox when it comes to exclusive software.The PS conference offered the kind of software that fits my taste in gaming."

amazing how sony targets 'different' gamers. those who like games such as street fighter but not killer instinc. games like gran turismo but not forza. or others like days gone but not state of decay 2. meanwhile in the real world ps4 owners have about 90% of the same game library as the xbox. it's not really about different taste, its called brand loyalty.

sony e3 - 7
microsoft - 6
nintendo - 4

Sony won hands down and Microsofts conference was enjoyable. Nintendo didn't even come close. They took forever to show the Zelda gameplay by showing off Pokemon it was unbearable. I don't think anyone stayed to watch the whole thing ;)

@ moldy

But don't you think brand loyalty stems from somewhere? You are correct that most of the games library is the same between the two consoles, but that's because of multiplats. Taking into consideration exclusives, which is was he was referring to, there is a rather large disparity from what the two consoles offer. You made comparison between some of the games, but what about the rest? What exclsuive did Microsoft show that's comparable in style to TLG, GoW4, Horizon, and Detroit? How does Microsoft target gamers that like those types of games? Sony even has games that were not shown at the press conference that have a target audience that Microsoft does not release games for. As for Microsoft, the games that I can think of that would target an audience that Sony has no counter for is Sea of Thieves (and that's because I do not even know the primary focus of Sea of Thieves besides it being a very social experience), Halo Wars 2, and Forza Horizon 3.

On topic: Sony had the better conference by a long shot, and it had a very unique approach in regards to the "normal" E3 conference. I rather liked it.

@r2oB
"But don't you think brand loyalty stems from somewhere?"

of course i do and not once will i ever say the playstation is a bad brand. in fact they earned being the best brand out there by capitalizing on nintendo's dictatorship and lack of openess. microsoft really has no hole to pick at in sony's arsenal other than the early days of online gaming which is now not even a selling point for xbox live over psn. i would dare say the two platforms are very alike which probably explains why the two fan camps act worlds apart to try and distance themselves for no real reason other than to treat them as rivals.

"You are correct that most of the games library is the same between the two consoles, but that's because of multiplats."

and software sales suggest that's what is leading the charge on consoles. nintendo has the biggest ip's out ther yet they only managed to sell 12 million units.

"Taking into consideration exclusives, which is was he was referring to, there is a rather large disparity from what the two consoles offer."

not really when you actually break it all down.

"You made comparison between some of the games, but what about the rest? What exclsuive did Microsoft show that's comparable in style to TLG, GoW4, Horizon, and Detroit?"

scalebound, recore, sea of thieves, cuphead, we happy few, state of decay 2. those games seem to vary genres but yes you are right, sony does diversify more but in reality those are very few games in the large scheme of things and the total library. the real diversity actually comes from japan only because they will never support the xbox platform which means the playstation will get the bulk of those games that don't market as well in the west. this is more about regional support, not so much so about suggesting north american playstation gamers are vastly different than north american xbox gamers.

"How does Microsoft target gamers that like those types of games? Sony even has games that were not shown at the press conference that have a target audience that Microsoft does not release games for. As for Microsoft, the games that I can think of that would target an audience that Sony has no counter for is Sea of Thieves (and that's because I do not even know the primary focus of Sea of Thieves besides it being a very social experience), Halo Wars 2, and Forza Horizon 3."

what i am highlighting is what exactly makes gamers different? the pc has the largest diversity out there but many of those games go unnoticed. i am mocking those who keep talking about games like gt yet crap on forza. or keep saying how a game like days gone looks great yet won't even support games like state of decay. we have seen this before when the playstation used to have exclusive games like tekken and devil may cry, now they are on both platforms but you want to tell me again how playstation gamers are more unique as sony now gets marketing dibs with call of duty? nothing has changed, brand loyaty is just as strong as ever if not more so.

there are very few games that are actually marketable each year that differenciates the two sytstems.

@ Moldy

Great posts! It's too bad more people on N4G don't have common sense like this.

Sony: these are reason why you should buy ps4.
MS: here is why you don't need xbox one.

@darth

While I won't remain neutral, I can say that most gamers probably can say they are the winners this year. EA and Ubi were kind of a drag, but Sony and MS had great conferences with great games, and that's what we want from E3.

Personally, I think Sony "won" as they had an exceptional conference, if not the best E3 showing I've ever seen. However, I think both conferences were great. MS actually showed twice as many games, although the numbers were bolstered by a sizzle reel of indies.

@Moldy

Thing is, despite MS now offering much better variety of exclusives through 2nd party partnerships, it still takes time to build the brand loyalty your talking about. Last gen, MS started off with the variety with 3rd party exclusive games(bit different than 2nd party where they funded the games), and at that time,that's where they were getting more people to the brand. Then they kind of dropped that for Kinect, and lost a lot of the good will that was gained by getting more people to the brand.

In this case, it's more that MS track record is inconsistent, rather than the fact they don't have the variety. While I don't think they're anywhere near as diverse as Sony on the exclusive front, and you are right, a lot of that has to do with Japan support(1st or 3rd party), the fact remains is that from Sony, they still have more offerings in the variety department for 1st and 2nd party games.

Sony I think gets more recognition for it because they often highlight this variety, whereas MS tends to focus on more singular titles to try and state, "We have variety". While over time, this will build more brand loyalty, and people will start to see the Xbox as something more diverse, the overall perception I think most people have is that MS tends to be rather narrowly focused on particular types of games....which they are in their 1st party offerings. Building the kind of brand loyalty that you and r2ob are talking about takes time and consistency, and so long as MS keeps doing what they're doing, they'll gain the brand loyalty from more people.

In the mean time, it doesn't help to keep saying that people are just ignoring Xbox offerings in an attempt to highlight the variety, because MS itself isn't doing that enough to get people's interest. The variety seems more secondary to their overall approach to software diversity, as opposed to the diversity being a core aspect of their product portfolio....as is the case with Sony.

@thejig

So will one's 4K TV too. No Xbox needed.:)

Probably worth mentioning that higher quality 4K TV's will probably upscale better than the consoles will. Upscaling is required for all content on LED/LCD style TVs in order to fill the screen, and Samsung, LG, and Sony 4K TV's all have pretty high quality upscalers in them. I tested this myself using some testing software I wrote at my job, and using my work PC(notebook with special hardware to do such things) at home connected to my samsung TV. Test pattens always came back better using the TV uscaler. Monitors are different though, and typically better to not upscale.