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Spec Analysis: Xbox Project Scorpio

Digital Foundry:
"Removing barriers... Innovation and the latest technology... delivering the world's most powerful console is something we absolutely want to do... the most powerful graphics processor that's been put into a game console... the highest res... the best frame-rate... no compromises... we can render at 60Hz... we can render fully uncompressed quality pixels... the best quality pixels... true 4K gaming..."

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TranceHop 3618d ago

The Scorpio is a beast. Change my mind about that Xbox One S, rather get that Scorpio instead Day One. & no I don't want a gaming PC I'm a console gamer. Everybody has their own personal preference.

81BX3618d ago

Im getting both. Scorpio seems like a beast

hermsgerms3618d ago (Edited 3618d ago )

I haven't been on this website in ages, come back to everything being different and new. I accidentally drop my iPad and downvote your comment, try to remove the downvote, "You've already voted", well at least they didn't change everything.

Fin_The_Human3617d ago

Getting both as well.

When the Scorpio drops next year I will give my XB1s to my little bro.

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PistolsAtDawn3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

Exactly...already pre-ordered my Slim, and will be there day one for my Scorpio (and Rift) . The Slim is already the best 4k Blu-Ray HD streaming device on the Market and cheaper by almost $100 over the other options. MOST IMPORTANTLY it's an HDR device. At this point not getting one is ridiculous if you have a 4k TV.

Soc53617d ago

Yup definitely seems like a beast, this is the Microsoft I remember before Don Mattrick and his creepy smile showed up, I remember I was ready to get the new successor to the 360 and then I was completely underwhelmed and disappointed. The ps4 has served me well but maybe next year I will be seeing that familiar logo on my tv again and saying : Xbox welcome back.

donthate3617d ago

I like to call it the Xbox Monster! It is about unleash 6 terror flops into everybody. It is so good it will scare your wits out!

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Manic20143618d ago

Same here, still got time for the Scorpio to release, so getting the Xbox One S to replace my current Xbox.

Bigpappy3618d ago

Looks like I might be getting them both also. I was going to skip the slim until I had a closer look and see that it has performance gains over THE ONE.

MachuchalBrotha3163618d ago (Edited 3618d ago )

Yeah me too... I want to watch 4k movies...hey does the blu ray also play 4k movies? And also the vertical option is great....

Yetter3617d ago

Im thinking about it, my bro has been on the 360 this whole gen. Thinking of getting an S, giving him my day one and picking up a Scorpio when it comes out

assdan3617d ago

So, you're gonna replace your console with the same console so you can replace it with a better console a year later... why?

Manic20143617d ago

@asdan

My Day ONE Xbox is massive, this is much smaller. Why wouldn't I get the slim? SInce the console would be backwards compatible when the time comes I will trade in for scorpio.

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Errorist763617d ago

@BigPappy

It has been confirmed by MS those rumours about performance gains are NOT true!

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seanpitt233618d ago (Edited 3618d ago )

Well said! All the pc people will come out with all their insecurities of how there machine still beats it blah blah..

I can appreciate pc players they can upgrade when they want to and it has its advantages but I have always been a console gamer I just love every aspect of it and I think Microsoft have done well here & sony) by giving the gamer and developers what they need to move the industry forward and pc gamers will benefit. The last generation got stale due to the limitations of the consoles and there for pc gamers got worse versions because of these limitations on consoles developers couldn't charge more for the consoles versions and have a massive difference between the two for e.g battlefield 3.

I think now the industry will move on faster and the only limitations will be ourselfs/Devs ambitions let's face it the last generation slowed everyone down by a big margin now the future is bright

donthate3617d ago

I say screw people with a bad attitude, but man I'm going to enjoy Play Anywhere on PC, and on Xbox One as well as Xbox "Monster" Scorpio next year!

starchild3617d ago

I'm a PC gamer and I hold no ill will towards those that choose to game on consoles. I do some gaming on consoles myself, just not as much as on PC.

It is true, though, that PC will still offer more advanced graphics and superior performance. That's just the advantage of not having fixed hardware.

I agree that these upgraded consoles will be a positive thing in many ways. It will give console-oriented gamers a more high end experience and it will be great for the proliferation of VR.

I just hope that it won't extend the generation too much. If all games have to be playable on both PS4/XB1 and Neo/Scorpio it will mean that core graphical progress will be held back by the capabilities of the PS4 and XB1. And if we don't get the true successors to these current consoles until several years from now due to the fact everyone will have just upgraded to the Neo or Scorpio and won't want to buy a new console so soon, it will mean we have to wait even longer until a true leap forward in graphics can occur. It would be like if we had to make all games today work on the PS3 and XB360.

That's my main concern.

343_Guilty_Spark3618d ago

The good thing about Microsoft and their Xbox Anywhere is you can choose whatever box you want to play on and it will work.

Yetter3617d ago

I've got a gaming PC but I'm still getting a Scorpio. Turns out, when you live with your girlfriend you end up sharing things like computers and consoles. The Play Anywhere initiative is gonna work out great for me

Zeref3617d ago

I have a decent gaming laptop and a desk setup but only games I like to play on it are WoW and sometimes other MMO's. Its not like I cant afford PC gaming, but there's something about having a dedicated gaming device connected to your TV. People who prefer consoles will always buy consoles. It's great that I can play games with my friends who don't have an Xbox One but do have a PC.

Zeref3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

"It's also unfeasible for Sony to produce a radically revised Neo - the silicon has been designed, developer kits have gone out. Matching Scorpio would require scrapping Neo's existing processor completely."

And there you have it folks. People who thought Sony could match Scorpio and launch this year are delusional. They would need to cancel everything and launch years later which means losing probably millions. They're not gonna do that just because MS has the power advantage.

donthate3617d ago

That is why MS announced Xbox "Monster" Scorpio with 6 terror flops. They know Sony can't match, because PS4k/Neo is already in mass production.

Zeref3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

If this is gonna do 4k at 60hz. It definitely tells me either the new AMD card is crazy powerful or their gonna use a Zen Cpu. If they do that It also means the console will be $800-1000.

seanpitt233617d ago

It looks like it's got 12gb of ram aswell to get that 300+gb of bandwidth probably gddr5 memory

Bruh3617d ago

I'll be trading in the current One for Nintendo's next console and i'll buy Scorpio at launch to have Oculus in the living room along with all the other living room functionality.

cabinotier3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

gaming PC and Xbox are no longer different.
Microsoft has set Xbox as cheap gaming PC.
Console market has infected by tradition of gaming PC.
"keep paying for hardware or left behind."

BattleAxe3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

I just mentioned in another thread, that I currently have a PC with a GTX 780 which is 3.977 Tflops, with an Intel i7 920 CPU and a motherboard from 2009. In a year and a half, there's no doubt that it will be cheaper to upgrade to a 6 Tflop Xbox Scorpio for 4K gaming and VR, than it will be to buy/build a new PC or upgrade my current PC to operate at a similar level as the Xbox Scorpio.

People keep asking what the point of owning an Xbox will be if their exclusive games are also on PC, and the situation that I'm in now, as stated above, is the reason to continue to buy and play on an Xbox. Consoles are more affordable, and they tend to target consumers who either can't afford to build a gaming PC, or who are tired of continually upgrading their gaming PCs. If Microsoft ever stops manufacturing consoles, then I will probably become a 100% PC gamer, but until then, I still love the console experience in the livingroom.

donthate3617d ago

Yup, and keep in mind taht 6 terror flops on fixed hardware is closer to the performance of 8-9 terror flops of PC. ==

Ashunderfire863617d ago

Get the 2Tb Xbox one S then trade or sell it for the Scorpio. I will do just that to get it cheaper. There you go great idea right?

Ceaser98573613617d ago

"The Scorpio is a beast. Change my mind about that Xbox One S, rather get that Scorpio instead Day One. & no I don't want a gaming PC I'm a console gamer. Everybody has their own personal preference"

Couldn't agree more... I am surely investing on both Neo and Scorpio.. till then my PS4 and XBOX ONE is doing fine.. wont get he xbox one s.. though i liked the way it looked.. no external power brick either..

Flexiblefish743617d ago

That's true I don't get why people say Oh I. Get a pc, yet am a console gamer as well and not a pc gamer, since I like to just pop in the game and play with my Xbox or ps4 or what ever they have out there instead of a pc that requires specs for each game that comes out

NohansenBoy3617d ago

I'm sure it'll come at a beast price though or be a fraud of a console. I'm mad at Sony and MS for taking advantage of consumers who don't charge of their own knowledge and experience in gaming. Consoles are some of the most outdated computers in existence, even new ones.

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MajorFancyPantz3618d ago

I agree I'm also a console gamer and not pc but I'll definitely be having an Xbox One S day 1 that should tide me over till Scorpio.

mark_parch3618d ago

will definitely be getting the scorpio but can't make my mind up on the xbox s its cheaper than I thought and there is talk about small performance gains.

81BX3618d ago

I also like that the ir blaster has further range.

never4get3617d ago

I'll buy Scorpio if it's a windows gaming console.

shiva13617d ago

Expecting the launch title to be Halo 3 anniversary edition or bundle with scorpio. That and DR4 on 4k.....

DeadManMMX3618d ago

I honestly kind of want one too it looks so sleak but first I will get a 4K tv to fully appreciate it.

joeorc3618d ago

Well your a PC gamer now!
Despite Microsoft. Saying the Xbox is a games console..its not, it is in fact a gaming PC powered by Windows 10 with UWP support.

ShadowKnight3618d ago (Edited 3618d ago )

I say the Scorpio will be around $450 to $499 and if you add the Oculus rift it will be over a thousand dollars more than a High end PC.

MajorFancyPantz3617d ago

I disagree the fact I can turn it on and kick back on the couch means it's still a console in my eyes. I can hook it upto my 4k tv plug and play in an instant. pc for me just isn't like that.

Yetter3617d ago

it plugs into your TV and plays games. Thats its primary purpose just like the current XB1. Its absolutely a game console

lokirevamped3618d ago

I just like to game however I do choose console over PC ( I hate the aimbots\cheats and other things).

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slate913618d ago

Project Scorpio ftw! Best E3 so far IMO! Xbox brought down the house! Sony knocked it out of the park! Gaming golden age?

Paytaa3618d ago

Yeah I think we're seeing the dawn of a brand new era of gaming

lokirevamped3618d ago

I welcome it, I personally hate the long wait to get new tech.....4-5 years is perfect for me. I don't think I would update my son's X1 right away but mine I will.

quenomamen3618d ago

More like screw the customer age. They released weak consoles that could barely do 1080p from the beggining. Now it looks like they're just gonna poop one out every 2 -3 years at $300-$400 a piece. You call this the golden age ? I call it the fall of Rome.

slate913618d ago

Perspective. I see it how MS and Sony both underestimated the speed at which technology is advancing right now and what gamers now want in their games.

Console gamers want 60fps, which if asked 5 years ago, only a fraction would have understood what that means.

I think they are adapting with the times. Bring on 4K gaming! Im tired of being tied down 8+ years with the same out dated equipment! Give me choice. If people dont want the scorpio they will be fine for at least another 2-3 years. Im ready for the next-level battlefield experience on console, or Halo to return to graphics king as it once was on the Xbox. And im willing to pay for it as well.

arkard3618d ago

4 years by the time the new xbox releases. Isnt that better than say... a new and better gpu every few months and a new better cpu every year?

Yetter3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

Scorpio coming out next year is 4 years after original release. Console generations used to be around 5 years, last gen was extra long. Difference this time around though is everything from this generation is going to be playable on future consoles.

As an adult with a real job, its really not all that much money to spend every 4 or 5 years anyways

you should try owning a boat, now thats an expensive hobby

Ausbo3617d ago

Scorpio will be 4 years after release of the one. I don't mind an upgrade every four years

Stereotypical_gamer3617d ago

You gotta admit that a 500 dollar console that can do what a 600 dollar graphics card can do is appealing. I mean, I hate Microsoft as much as anyone here but a 6 tflop console could last me like 7 years.

Ashunderfire863617d ago

Even Though I am still getting the Scorpio, I got to agree with you. I feel these current gen consoles should of been launch much later to get tech like this. We all see the weakness of these consoles so early on. Just look at Dark Souls 3 for example. On current gen the framerate struggles here and there at times, while the PC in 4K looks spectacular in 60fps! Its just hard to play a game like that in resolutions and frames lower than that wow! I also feel why the developers made upgrades for both consoles, because gamers keep on talking about Resolution Gate, and Framerate in and all out war lol! There were so many articles and youtube videos bashing Xbox One as the inferior console. Right now its going to be the most powerful console, if Sony doesn't add more TeraFlops in the PS4 Neo that is.

NohansenBoy3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

It's weird that consoles are becoming what people criticize PCs for on the whole "you gotta upgrade every two years to stay up to date". If it were true that I need to get a new GPU every year, at least that's only 1 part I need to upgrade, though the 750ti is still a relevant card despite launching in February 2014 and that's not changing anytime soon for the mainstream.

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donthate3617d ago

yup!

Both had great conferences. The only sticking point is, MS didn't announce much new, but I expect that is due to Scorpio i.e. they will announce it next E3, and there are also a bunch of games confirmed, but wasn't announced at E3.

On the other hand, I wish Sony would give release windows for their games. Most if not all of them seem to be in development, and is far from ready. I just don't want to wait another decade for a game like Last Guardian, or God forbid games that never come like Agent.

Otherwise, solid showing for both.

oof463617d ago

To be fair, we never saw much of Agent.

cfc833618d ago

I'd be too scared to touch one of these consoles incase i drop it. Delivery guy would have to put it on the fooor for insurance purposes.

Gitgud3618d ago

I see no point in getting this. Having a Win 10 PC means I can play basically every Xbox exclusive, and I have a PS4 so best of both worlds.

ShadowKnight3618d ago (Edited 3618d ago )

Pretty much. I'm just gonna upgrade my GPU this year. Can't wait to play Gears of War 4 in 4K this October. I'm disappointed that Gears 4 is not a Xbox exclusive anymore and feel like I wasted my money buying an Xbox one.

Movefasta19933618d ago

lol what?WHy are you dissapointed,if anything you should be happy you don't have to buy extra microsoft console from now on out.

MachuchalBrotha3163617d ago

And I can't wait to play it on Scorpio @4k when it releases. Tho my wait is alot longer. Haha

Fin_The_Human3617d ago

don't worry about Shadow Knight...the dude hates MS with a passion.

I am not sure why though.

ShadowKnight3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

@Fin If I hated Microsoft I wouldn't be buying their games on my PC and Xbox one. If I hated Microsoft I wouldn't have bought an Xbox one in the first place. Microsoft has a lot of money and don't want to invest in more first party studios to make better diverse games. Other than that I still like a lot of their games.

@Movefasta That's just it I have a PC and Xbox One. I don't need both anymore just one right?

slavish03617d ago

You have never been a xbox fan from your past comments so I don't think your mind has changed. I think its great m$ gives options and I am a pc gamer not stealth trolling

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Bobafret3618d ago

Then good for you, I don't see why so many feel the need to keep repeating this. If you want to look at it as some silly fanboy victory, knock yourself out.

Gitgud3618d ago

Imo, MS ruined Xbox by putting their exclusives on PC. Xbox doesn't have that much exclusivity because of this.

dms52233617d ago

Think of it from microsofts point of view. Now you're buying a Windows 10 PC to play their games. But oh wait, they only made money on the software. So then they make a computer (Xbox one and family) and now they make money on hardware and software. From a business perspective it makes perfect sense IMO.

pyroxxx3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

@dms5223 No it does not make sense,.. Yes I might be a MS consumer every once in a while,..but they just made their entire Steambox(that does not run steam) even less purchasable proposition.

kevnb3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

but not everyone is going to go for pc gaming just yet, but i can see a future where consoles become as obsolete as dedicated music players or even cheap digital cameras. Google is getting serious about chrome os and Microsoft seems to want to merge windows/xbox. 5 years from now I imagine we will get to the point where every device you get will be gaming at 4k no problem. Microsofts big advantage is the backlog. Where does sony go from here? well for now they are in great shape, maybe they should partner with google or samsung if they want to stay relevant long term though.

joeorc3617d ago (Edited 3617d ago )

@Kevin

"Where does sony go from here? well for now they are in great shape, maybe they should partner with google or samsung if they want to stay relevant long term though."

Well a good Question, but that Question already has been answered.

Sony is keeping PlayStation Box to put under the TV, just like a PC is it's just another box , you could put under the TV. As for partnership with Google or Samsung ..you do know they already are! You do know Since Sony is a tier 1 support company for the AndroidOS, Sony already makes smartTv's powered just like Samsung and Google and LG, Vizio. ETC.

See for yourself
https://www.android.com/tv/

Already Sony has the number one all live Internet cable TV over the internet option that is a real viable alternative to cable and PlayStation Vue is already on.

Chrome cast
Amazon fire stick & Fire player.
Next is Roku!

PlayStation Now is already on some Samsung smart TV's. Already.
When Don't rolls out that service to more TV manufacturing Companies that make Android TV's.

Sony already has Remote Play to PC & Mac..so you think Sony is not going to relevant?

At this point instead of just trying to keep a box under the TV relevant, VP smart TV's becoming more the standard..Sony is putting their software & services directly into the TV itself.

And since the Smart TV's along with smart phones and Tablets all pretty much if they are not running AndroidOS. Or Apple's iOS. One would be wise to ask what Microsoft going to do to stay relevant in smartphone mobile chips which smart TV's use.

At this point the number #1 OS going into smart TV's is not Windows OS.
It's Android. Top it off the number one graphics Api for smart TV's will be Vulkan not DirectX.

The Default Graphics Api for Android OS going forward is Vulkan.

Microsoft has the PC OS #1 OS, but in the consumer Electronics Living Room computer market, they are not the leader and most likely, never will now.

Due to The Windows OS is not going into TV'a as the default Operating system.

Sony is quite Relevant going forward. Into the computer entertainment market going forward. Despite Microsoft's attempts to replace the game console market under the PC windows OS paradigm, I would say do not bet on it..38+ years Microsoft has been trying to do just that, and they are not closer now than when they practically started those many years ago.

BossBattle3617d ago

I wouldn't want my son having to deal with a pc just to play games. The Scorpio will do for him.

Zeref3617d ago

That's great for you. You own at least 1 Microsoft Platform. Microsoft doesn't care how you give them your money.

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-Foxtrot12d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle12d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7712d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7716d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300017d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7217d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit17d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania17d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit17d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0716d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr17d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr17d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9517d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7217d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--17d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7217d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket17d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm17d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde17d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9216d ago (Edited 16d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_17d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted17d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit17d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9216d ago (Edited 16d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT17d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers17d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14917d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0716d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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