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VE3D: Left 4 Dead Updated Hands-on

VE3D: "How do the graphics compare? Between you, me, and the wall, I'll admit that the PC's visuals were light years better than the 360. I think sitting a foot away from a big-ass flat screen panel probably didn't help the situation, but it's becoming clear that the console hardware is quickly becoming last-gen. The frame rates though, I am happy to report, were great – and other than the slightly blocky graphics – didn't suffer from any obvious problems. I doubt Left 4 Dead is a true 720p game, but we'll have to wait and see."

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DarK-SilV6463d ago (Edited 6463d ago )

NO one is bashing,this is IGN saying this,DEAL with it,its been confirmed many times that Xbox360 is Lagging behind in in terms of power and space,

GiantEnemyCrab6463d ago

This is a blog off of IGN. Not IGN.

My question for you is, why did you just quote the article text that we can all cleary see in the story description? It was to bash.

ALL the consoles when compared to the PC lose even your precious PS3. It's also been pointed out many times that when compared to the other consoles it is keeping up just fine.

Kyur4ThePain6463d ago (Edited 6463d ago )

It's GiantCryBaby again.
It doesn't matter where it's written, the fact that the 360 is nearing the end of its graphical life remains.

Blademask6463d ago

The ps3 will clearly lose to some dual SLI rig, just as the 360 would. But unless some game comes out in the near future that can stand up to any of the PS3's heavy graphic hitters, the writing is definitely on the wall.

Graphics of course don't equal everything. But in a conversation of graphics, they are the subject.

GiantEnemyCrab6463d ago

Kyur: Whining? How the fvk am I whining kid? I stated what would obviously happen with this thread and I was right.

Blade: MGS4 is a great looking game but Uncharted is nothing to jump around about. Gears looks just as good and Gears 2 will undoubtly trump Uncharted. Which btw both of those games are still beat by PC games.

Silellak6463d ago

I just saw this myself at PAX a couple of hours ago.

It looks just fine on the 360 - the Source engine has aged quite well.

Why was the portion of this article quoted ONLY about the graphics? Because the intent of this article is clearly to help flame the anti-360 circle-jerk this site has become.

VF34EJ256463d ago

So you guys are talking about graphics. But it's not just about how things "look." What the PS3 triumphs over the 360 is animations and polygons.

In Gears of War, Marcus Fenix is only 12,000 polygons. In Uncharted, Drake is up to 25,000 polygons!

You may wonder what does this have to do with anything? It goes back to animations. Look at all the different variations they can animate drake in. And then go back and look at what a blocky robot Fenix is.

http://www.gametrailers.com...
Just look at what he can do. The different facial expressions, the way he jumps, the way he rolls, the way he snaps a guy's neck, the way he punches, the way he shoots an AK is different when she shoots a pistol or shotgun, the way he jumps on a ledge, the way he swings on a rope, etc. etc. etc.

There's too many variations for me to list, but let's look at gears of war.
http://www.gametrailers.com...

Notice how blockier Fenix is. Very limited in animations. Not much to talk about here.

Again, not talking about gameplay (Gears of War gameplay kicks ass and I love it) or just the "look" of graphics.

But the PS3 definitely is pushing the boundaries of animations more. And some of you people refuse to see it.

And other examples of is Ratchet & Clank Future.
http://www.gametrailers.com...

MGS4 Being an obvious one. *WARNING SPOILER*
http://www.gametrailers.com...

And Killzone 2.
http://i15.tinypic.com/4tr2...
http://i14.tinypic.com/4zej...
http://i35.tinypic.com/e7dq...

So go ahead and debate which system has shinier textures. But in my eyes, the animations in PS3 games is what's going to really set the two consoles apart in future games.

mikeslemonade6463d ago (Edited 6463d ago )

Your wrong Uncharted is the best looking game on the consoles currently. And MGS4, COD4, and Bioshock look better than Gears. Go play Gears right now and compare. Your basing your judgement on nostalgia.

LastDance6463d ago

GiantEnemyCrab - Dude...uncharted looks phenomenal! I havent seen anything that comes close to it.

People need to make sure they arent talking about art "Direction" when talking about uncharteds graphics.

lsujester6463d ago

Well, I have to say that PS3-focused titles do look better than the 360-focused ones. But honestly, we haven't seen many 360 exclusives that could be graphically intensive. I think Gears 2 will probably outdo most PS3 games that are out now, but then the PS3 will come out with something that looks better than that. It's gonna be a jigsaw for a bit longer, until one does reach the limits of developer prowess.

And no matter which console you have, people should realize that both consoles do have dated graphics cards in comparison to PCs. I can go out right now with a hundred dollar bill and buy a card that will smoke either one.

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360 man6463d ago

well with cards like the 4870 and 4870 x2 wat do u expect

Vicophine6463d ago

well with the x360's hardware wat do u expect

socomnick6463d ago

With the 360 you expect graphics better than Resistance 2. L4d still looks better than resistance 2 by the way.

doshey6463d ago

wow im amazed the openzone is not in a full war right now as of for ur comment socomnick do u need glass this crap looks like the orange box for the ps3

DarK-SilV6463d ago

socomnick are joking,R2 is way better int terms of Graphics and story,there is no big story whats so ever in left for the dead,

ICUP6463d ago

I think socomnick eyes got RRODed.

vdesai6463d ago

Nope they are just running in 720p xD im sorry had to do that.

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Homicide6463d ago

"I'll admit that the PC's visuals were light years better than the 360. ...but it's becoming clear that the console hardware is quickly becoming last-gen."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yeah...

DarK-SilV6463d ago

I know,this have been going for a long time ,Xbox360 cant handle games with to many things going on the screen, but xbots wont believe this,
when games like this run on 360,they have to put things down for 3fixme to run the game,
things like graphics,resolution,est

Dyingduck6463d ago

Why DA F*CK would you want to play a valve game on a console???

x_X

Serjikal_Strike6463d ago

graphics have you been looking at? Come november you will see that L4D does not compare to resis.2!

vdesai6463d ago

RB6V looks better then this. Thats the truth and the truth is this game was never made to be a graphical powerhouse.

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OG Left 4 Dead Creator Announces He's Working On A New Multiplayer Shooter

Following Left 4 Dead's undying legacy, the developer of the game shares that a new likewise project is in the works.

ZycoFox255d ago

L4D had potential to be so much more. The issue was that the release of the second game just one year after the first added a decent amount of content which was much needed, then there was nothing except for a few small content updates spread far between.

This is one of the only games I can think of that benefits from a yearly release, or at least a yearly DLC so it doesn't split the player base.

The games just got too samey and lack content.. it's a shame they didn't keep up the pace, I know you can download new maps but it doesn't change the overall game or add new enemies etc.

-Foxtrot254d ago

Regardless of what Valve officially said they didn’t need to do a sequel that fast, things could have easily been added to the original overtime and the sad thing is the characters and atmosphere of the original was better than the sequel. I mean we went from the dark, grim city streets to the sunny south where we are hitting massive menacing tanks with frying pans.

I honestly believe Valve killed it because it was a Turtle Rock game at its core and Valve wanted it to be known as an Valve only IP moving forward

They even brought back the original survivors just to kill one of them off (even though in the original they were heading North to Canada)

JEECE254d ago

Lol L4D2 came out in 2009, and you are saying it should have been a 2020s type live service game. It's just a great game, it doesn't need battle passes and skins.

This attitude is why devs are afraid to make any multiplayer game that isn't a live service.

Jingsing253d ago (Edited 253d ago )

Also in these current economic times live services is just a no go when people are being more frugal with their purchasing power. I don't do any subscription services anymore which means I can't do multiplayer on a console even if I wanted too. Something the console manufacturers should think about if they want to get players to even try their online stuff.

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

ChasterMies747d ago

Some of these low paid video game “news” writers weren’t born before 2007.

just_looken747d ago

Here here

Those that were around before 2000's i am sure are like me that think we entered a world of non readers or those that follow without question.

I can not wait to see fallout 3 a goty game even though it was about water with non content until you add the dlc/updates then you got the performance/crashing

CrimsonWing69747d ago

I don’t think anything can compare to 2023

lucasnooker747d ago

1998 - the best year in gaming! Metal gear solid, crash bandicoot 3, medievil, half life, ocarina of time, thief, tenchu, resident evil 2, Spyro, tomb raider 3, oddworld abes exodus, banjo kazooie.

It was a different breed of a gaming era. You’ll never understand what it was like back then. The aura of gaming, it was different!

KyRo747d ago (Edited 747d ago )

I second this. Gaming was a lot more varied and fun than it is today. I'm 35 so getting on compared to some here but I got to see all the changes from NES up to now but I've never felt so disappointed in any generation than I have this current gen. I was expecting more from this generation rather than prettier versions of games that came before it. Game mechanics have become so refined that alot of games feel the same and has done for a while now.

Maybe it's time to have a break for a while. I love gaming but I don't feel I get much fun in the traditional sense out of it anymore.

CrimsonWing69747d ago (Edited 747d ago )

Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil 2, Abe’s Exodus, and Ocarina of Time are the only things from that list that I liked.

Here’s the 2023 game releases that I personally liked… and big releases that I didn’t care for:

- Dead Space Remake
- Wo Long Dynatsy
- Resident Evil 4 Remake
- Diablo 4
- Fire Emblem Engage
- Hogwarts Legcay
- Street Fighter 6
- Hi-Fi Rush
- Like a Dragon: Ishin
- Octopath Traveler 2
- Final Fantasy Pixel Remasters
- Final Fanatsy XVI (actually ended up not liking this, but it was still a big deal release)
- Baldur’s Gate 3
- Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
- Lies of P
- Mortal Kombat 1
- Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
- Starfield (Ended up hating this one, but big release)
- Super Mario Bros. Wonder
- Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (I’m an old-school Zelda fan, but didn’t really enjoy this game)
- Alan Wake 2

I mean, honestly I’ve never seen a year of major IP releases like that, ever.

Profchaos747d ago (Edited 747d ago )

Isn't it just a generational thing realistically.

I've been gaming since way back and I some of my favourite games go as far back as the late 80s for me each generation has a year or two of game changing releases one after another before an inevitable dry spell.

I kind of agree gaming had a different feel games hit different because we didn't have the internet nothing got spoiled and you really had to put in the effort to beat a puzzle which could set entire groups of people looking for a solution. But most importantly games were experimental and not as cookie cutter as today even basics like controls were not universal today r2 is shoot l2 is ads garunteed you can't deviate from that in a shooter back then it could of been square, R1 or R1 and circle nothing was standard.

But as time moves on a new generation picks up their controller they are going to be interested in different things that PS1 demo disc with the t Rex blew our primitive 16 bit brains back on launch but to kids today it's laughable.
The new gen of kids coming into to hobby seem to value different things to us there seems to be a huge focus on online play, streamers, gaming personalities, and social experiences, convience of digital downloads. To me I value none of that but that's ok like my parents not liking the band's I would listen to its just the natural cycle.

Gameseeker_Frampt747d ago

Just about every year in the 7th generation was great and something we most likely won't experience again.

2009 for example had Assassin's Creed 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, Dragon Age: Origins, Uncharted 2, Halo 3: ODST, Killzone 2, Borderlands, Bayonetta, and Demon's Souls to name a few.

just_looken747d ago

It still amazes me we got over 7 rockstar games ps2/ps3 but 3 for the ps3/ps4/ps5

Dragon age 1-3 and mass effect 1-3 in 7ish years what a generation.

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Most Offensive Video Games That Would Never Cut It Today

Times are changing, and these games would have never been made in today's climate.

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thorstein785d ago (Edited 785d ago )

Every single time someone uses this phrase whether it's music, movies, books, comics, video games, etc it's always the same claim.

The ubiquitous "they" won't allow it to be made. And every decade these claims are made the claimant completely ignores all the "offensive" material that is published when the claim is made.

In ten years, you can write a new article about how you can't make games like Helldivers 2, Resident Evil VIII, Mortal Kombat I, Dragon's Dogma 2, Alan Wake 2 etc etc etc any more.

MrBaskerville784d ago

Yeah, people wouldn't be constantly outraged if there weren't games that people found enraging. The whole SBI discourse shit wouldn't be a thing if all games were inoffensive. A game like Starfield can make a guy froth at his mouth, so there will always be room for a list like this.

0hMyGandhi784d ago

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but there are massive caveats.
TV shows like Venture Bros, Ren and Stimpy, and Aqua Team wouldn't/couldn't be made today. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was a *children's* show, same thing with Rocko's Modern Life.

It's not for some arbitrary reason, either. It's branding and IP alignment. Companies are far more risk-averse than they were when I was kid in the 90's. Of course, you have companies coming out of the woodwork to hell spur on similar content, but remember: Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and some incredibly provocative material.

And for movies? it's pretty obvious. American Pie/Wedding Crashers/Eurotrip among many other "raunch coms" have fallen out of style, and are absolutely outside what the modern day film industry is willing to stand by.
Ace Ventura 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, Freddy Got Fingered, Rat Race, Harold and Kumar, and Van Wilder follow suit.

Remember: I am not explicitly talking about films put onto streamers. I am talking wide-releases in actual theaters. Same thing goes for games: Carmageddon, Duke Nukem, Manhunt, Six Days In Fallujah (with their original concept), Hatred, and so on and so forth. Of course, I'd be inclined to mention most tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Joint Ops as well, due to cultural sensitivity regarding *who* you are shooting and why.

And not all of it is bad (obviously). Tastes change, and perspectives change to fit the demographic.
I should add that I'm a lefty, living in L.A. Working in film.

thorstein784d ago

The Boys, Invincible, Jojo Rabbit, Deadpool, Gen V, Last of Us, Banshee... There are plenty of media being made today that people will claim "can't be made today".

Profchaos784d ago

Yeah but if you consider manhunt which was basically a snuff film could you seriously make that game with high than PS2 era graphics.

thorstein783d ago

The Outlast Trials just came out.

But the storyline of Manhunt was that you were executed. But then lived. And if you didn't do as you were told, you'd die. And the people you killed were not innocents.

It was all filmed by a psychopath.

As we speak GTA VI is being finished up for a release. You get to play a Bonnie and Clyde type of protagonist who run up against the law.

Bodycam looks so real.

People are making those games. Articles like this will always exist no matter how incorrect they are, no matter how many times they blame "them" for whatever it is "they" do to prevent "those" games from being made.

ZycoFox784d ago

The UK is the biggest junk country pandering to that nonsense as well, with laws against free speech and expression to match. It got so bad even Rowan Atkinson made a video on free speech about it.

Now the UK raises the age rating on harmless films like Mary Poppins, it's just a load of pansy weak ass nonsense.

MrDead784d ago (Edited 784d ago )

The right wing Tories have been in power in the UK for the 14 years you know the ones that are "anti-woke", blame them for your perceptions.

Killer2020UK784d ago (Edited 784d ago )

Are these snowflakes in the room with us now?

This is more faux outrage designed to get hits. The consequences are unfortunately creating hysteria amongst those willing to buy into it and blame "them" or "the left" or "liberals" meanwhile the left are kicking off about genocide, actual real world abhorrent acts. Nobody is campaigning to censor this shit.

Huey_My_D_Long784d ago

Not too mention the fact that some of these game are controversial for you know, underage porn and encouraging rape.

So either the guy just came in to comment snowflakes without reading anything, or he is calling people snowflakes for having a problem with said titles. Crazy how much brain rot someone can have.

banger88785d ago

Dead Island: "The early PC version of the zombie game swapped the playable character Purna’s Gender Wars skill with a prototype name, which shouldn’t be mentioned directly. The skill name made fun of both Purna as a character and feminists."

"Feminist Whore" lmao

gold_drake784d ago

ill add one more to the list.
drakengard 1.

its ridiculous tho, especially since they'd still be able to find their place in alot of places in the world. except america of course ha. and maybe Australia.

ppl are so sensitive these days. ha. but it is what it is.

Barlos784d ago (Edited 784d ago )

They're not offensive.

And we need another Fat Princess. Fantastic little game!

Some people just have no sense of humour if this sort of thing offends them. They need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

Deeeeznuuuts784d ago

Would love a new fat princess game 🤟

CantThinkOfAUsername784d ago

Games literally about sexual assault, mass genocide, bombing civilians, and school shooting. None of which is satirical.

isarai784d ago

Actually it's about fat princesses

Huey_My_D_Long784d ago (Edited 784d ago )

Its crazy that people are fixated on Fat princess when clearly the list is going over controversies, and not all of them are equal. Like way worse examples but pretend the entire list is like that.

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