When exactly were games more expensive?

And making games are largely cheaper due to faster computers and far more mature development software as well as a far larger pool of skilled people who know how to create games driving the cost of labor down. This is especially true for existing studios who have already invested in the needed equipment. And Overwatch is the cheapest of games. It's got a handful of maps no single player and it's only got a few hundred lines of dialog.

An expensive game is something like The Witcher or Fallout which have huge maps hundreds of NPC's and thousands of lines of dialog.

Agreed. Games have now stayed $60 for well over 10 years.

@BrandanT- smh....slowly read what you posted bud. Shame.. do you not get what you're actually saying? Don't you understand what that means or? lol

@Ashlen- "When exactly were games more expensive?" 10 years ago, when they happen to stay the same price.....

I mean...if you don't get basic economics or inflation, I'm not sure you're going to be able to even form a real argument buddy. FOR A FACT games are the cheapest they've ever been in the history of gaming.

That isn't even debatable, its a damn FACT! lol

That is like arguing over what 2+2 is.

http://arstechnica.com/gami...

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But screw facts right?

"And making games are largely cheaper due to faster computers and far more mature development" for a fact that is wrong. Making games is more expensive and complex then in any other time in gaming.

Making a game today, isn't the same situation as making a game 10 years ago.
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its why 10 of the damn top 15 most expensive games ever made are between 2009-2016

out of 39 games, only 3 are even from 1999 and below. Not sure where you got that damn lie from buddy.

Edmix

C'mon, using inflation... I was only talking about MSRP i'm sure some places have increased sales taxes too... But w/e

And as for cost of development, I mean a lot of the cost there is increased cost of marketing not actual development. For example Biosock infinate and Destiny both claimed record creation costs but then when asked about it they both admitted that a large portion of there purported totals weren't from the development side. And while some games may have higher budgets I stand by my claim that game development costs on the whole have gone down for the reason listed. And in general I was only talking recently. I mean the cost of making an Atari game was a few thousand dollars.

@Ash- "Edmix

C'mon, using inflation... I was only talking about MSRP i'm sure some places have increased sales taxes too... But w/e "

What "C'mon"? What? Using facts? Showing with real data that for fact the price has stated the same, thus lowered based on real economic data? Exactly what was I suppose to do? Scream I win or I'm right like a child? Your are stating something that is for a fact incorrect.

If i'm wrong, show a link. Post an example, show you're data.

"And as for cost of development, I mean a lot of the cost there is increased cost of marketing not actual development"

?? Buddy, did you not read the link provided? Even if you ignore the marketing, the games still cost more. That is irrefutable. To ignore that, is to ignore facts and reality.

You're basically arguing for the sake of arguing. We may disagree on subjective concepts like games or genres or practices etc, but there is no reason to be questioning hard fact.

http://www.bf4blog.com/ask-...

" some maps only take 2-3 people to create. Others take around 8-10 people, like Siege of Shanghai. Paracel Storm took a whopping 6 months to complete"

Mind you, back in the day

http://www.mobygames.com/ga...

vs

http://www.mobygames.com/ga...

From 2005 to 2013

But...lets keep pretending games cost less....

GTAIV cost 100 million to develop, never mind marketing bud, GTAV cost 137 million and that is merely a 4 year difference.

" I stand by my claim that game development costs on the whole have gone down" that nice.

Got a link? Got any real evidence of such a claim? You know....like a game costing less to develop after a previous entry and doing the equal to better then its past entry?

Their is a difference from I think and I know. You're entire argument is based on an ignorant belief yet this topic is referring to something that is an absolute number. It can be looked up, added, linked proven etc. Lots of companies list their game data in regards to cost bud.

Here is a little knowledge for you.

AC1 cost 20 million to make
AC2 cost around 24 million to make
ACIV black flag cost 100 million to make and had over 900 staff.
AC Unity didn't release how much it cost, had a staff of well over 1000 and was in development since 2010, all with a new engine. Pretty sure Unity cost more then IV by that information. AC went from 20 million to 100 million in 1 generation. Sure games cost less? SO what is Ubisoft doing? Just throwing money in the trash or? lol

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Engines get more complex, concepts get more wild and demanding and developers now more then EVER have more choice in where they work. Game prices stayed the same since 2005, do you think a developer in 2016 wants pay from 2005? Would you? They need to keep up, thus most offer a competitive pay.

@samden those games are wayyyyyyyy more content Rich than overwatch if we're being fair