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Is Sony winning in the battle of console exclusives?

Joe from Untold Gaming writes: 2016 is really a year of conflict, isn’t it? You have Batman V Superman; Captain America V Iron Man; Donald Trump V every sane person of America. While these conflicts rage on, there has been a battle over the decades between two giants caught in an equilibrium of power: Sony & Microsoft, two tech powerhouses looking to outdo each other in console sales and reputation for home entertainment.

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Maple223524d ago

I think both offer up some great exclusives, they just cater to different tastes. I'm really excited about Xbox one's Cuphead (I know it is on PC as well) as well as being thrilled about Uncharted 4. They are obliviously trying to compete but I think things are pretty level at the moment... Perhaps PS4 will take the crown nearer to Christmas, but we shall see.

iDoneToldYa3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

The article has to say "Console Exclusives" just to give Xbone a fighting chance as more and more of it's exclusives are going multiplatform.

PS4 is absolutely destroying Xbone in the exclusives department. It's had more exclusives every year since launch and is ramping up while Xbone exclusives are winding down.

PS4 this year has had.
The Witness
SFV
MLB The show
Alienation
Ratchet and Clank
Uncharted 4.
Shadow of the Beast

Xbone has only had one "console exclusive" this year. Quantum Break. Where are the games MS?

PS4 has the highest rated games and a much higher quantity

Phunkydiabetic13524d ago

Just like any other article comparing the two once again the PS4 destroys. The lack of exclusives this year on Xbox is shameful.

nix3524d ago

i think the white handkerchief has been thrown already. plus sony always has been winning the console exclusive war consistently.

remixx1163524d ago

Donetoldya

Don't forget about gravity rush remaster that also released before SFV.

Now we're waiting on no man's sky, gravity rush 2, personal 5, gt sport, horizon zero dawn, dreams, the last guardian, nier 2, world's of final fantasy, king of fighter 14 and so much more.

Sony is on top but that's not to say MS aren't dining great though only quantum break for the first half of the year is kinda rough.

Silly gameAr3524d ago

Well, xbox had Superhot. I'm sure there's more but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

AngelicIceDiamond3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

"Xbone has only had one "console exclusive" this year. Quantum Break. Where are the games MS?"

None existent because you'll never play them or pay attention to them. I mean why else would ppl like you keep saying that?

Edit: Hey its true Lol cry and disagree all you want its funny actually all of yall are just proving my point and nobody can prove me wrong so I win. The only ones that are "concerned" are the ones who never planning on playing the console. You see that's what I don't get complain just to complain basically. In the real world which is where I live ppl don't seem to complain about MS games in fact half the ppl I seem to discuss gaming with seem content. But in goofball internet land its all gloom and sad so concerning ) :

I wonder how many braincells I lose reading ppls stupid comments haha.

darthv723524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

Maybe it's me but I don't buy a system for it's exclusives. I am a hardware whore so I buy all platforms no matter what. Even revisions when they are released. Some collect action figures, others collect coins. I collect games and systems.

Utalkin2me3524d ago

PS4 is winning in all fronts not just console exclusives....

Zeldafan643524d ago

I think Wii U has the best console exclusives. Really Zelda U is the only game for the system I need to trump everything any other system will ever get.

Phar0ahad33524d ago

Wheres salt and sanctuary, hardware rivals, firewatch and a bunch more ?

Gol3m3524d ago

No man's sky is enough for me

leoms3524d ago

Sigh... I hate to be that guy but QB is also on PC not exclusive to Xbone

ShadowKnight3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

I totally agree. Sony is killing in exclusives

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medman3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

@maple22
It is no coincidence that you used "obliviously" when I assume you meant to say "obviously", for your take is as oblivious to the obvious one-sided arse kicking that Sony is handing out as it gets. Sony has far more exclusives available, they rate far higher, and they also have far more in current development. It's a landslide victory for Sony.

Microsoft is not in competition with the ps4 anymore, they've been knocked out of the ring and straight into the expensive front row seats, where they are lying unconcious, waiting for the fight doctor to come and administer the smelling salts.

Josuey3524d ago

So you think xbox is winning the exclusives battle? so far this year
PS4
SFV,
R&C,
Gravity rush 2,
UC4,
MLB

XBONE
Quantum Flop

Stop lying to yourself

Deathdeliverer3524d ago

There's also Valkyria chronicles and although it's old, Last Blade 2 came out today and it's online!!!

jrshankill3524d ago

Street Fighter V is the biggest let down this gen so far. That or The Order.

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Kingthrash3603524d ago

In all honesty I bought an xbo for qb...it was indeed a great letdown for me. It was cool but wayyyyy too many problems with that game.
Sf was a let down too ....no excuse for a fighting game to release with so little content. ...not even a arcade mode....but they are also still releasing free content and updates...a story mode and barlog...amongst other things....it's not forgivable but at least they are still developing content for it. Qb released and was a let down...to cover this it consistently get comparisons to uncharted for some odd reason....I guess because people want to paint it as a great game when it's truly not.

Kallisti3524d ago

Gravity Rush 2 hasn't come out yet, you mean Gravity Rush remastered

_-EDMIX-_3524d ago

Agreed. I mean...by default XB will always lose such a battle based on several things. Sony has more studios, they have more Japanese support.

Titles like Persona 5
Nier 2
Yakuza Zero and 6
Valkyria Chronicles remaster and 4
World Of Final Fantasy
I Am Setsuna
Exist Archive
Ni No Kuni 2 and the list goes on.

That is JUST 3rd party Japanese exclusives too, because of their support from the east because of how the platform performs in Asian's territories, its always by default going to have more.

I mean...folks its something we are going to have to deal with and really take into reality. Until that changes, I don't see XB ever having more exclusives.

Even if they did well in Japan and got Japanese support, Sony still owns more teams and produces more games, thus by default would still actually make more exclusives.

MORE needs to change at MS in order to even come close to PS in terms of exclusives, some is completely out of their control too.

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Realms3524d ago

A lot of smart gamers bought a PS4 during the 2015 holiday hype that MS was touting as the greatest gaming line up ever because they knew Sony was brining serious heat in 2016 and beyond. They have released at least one exclusive every month this year to MS one, so when fanboys use to say the PS4 has no games it just made them look like idiots. Truth be told Sony has always delivers on games, sometimes it's a slow burn in the beginning of the generation but once they get going games start flowing.

Many independent studios are choosing to develop first on PS4 and PC and some are even skipping the X1, yet sales don't matter right? This is where Sony in combination with it's first party studios and brining new IP's is killing the X1 and MS.

politicoreach3524d ago

Sony is definitely winning. Especially when you consider the fact that Uncharted 4 is almost universally regarded as one of the prettiest games of this generation. Leave alone the fact that its writer wrote the Last of Us and other fine works.

Its an amazing time to be a Sony fan.

Revel in its glory!

XanderZane3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

The PS4 is definitely winning at this point. They are not only getting more Indie exclusives, but also there are many Japanese developers who decided they were only going to make some of their games for PS4 and no other platform (PC, Wii U, XB1). Companies like Konami, Namco, Atlus, Sega, From Software, etc... who have made several PS4 exclusive games. It's a bit surprising that you don't see a lot of American developers do the same thing with the XB1 and PC. Seems they have a bit more respect for the market and aren't as biased. In any case, with the PS4 having over 40 million units in gamers home, it's easy to see why they would have more exclusives. If they had sold as many units as the Wii U, they most likely wouldn't. Microsoft will most likely announce some new exclusives at the E3. Gears 4 will probably stay XB1 exclusive, as will Halo 5, Sunset Overdrive and maybe Crackdown 3.

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XanderZane3524d ago

@StardustLemon
Bull? lol!! I didn't say ALL their games were only for the PS4. But games like Bloodborne, Valkyria Chronicles, Tekken, Persona 5, Ni-Oh and many other games that won't see the light on other systems. If EA did something like that with Mirror's Edge Catalyst or Rockstar with Red Dead Redemption 2, gamers would go crazy. It has nothing to do with Japan. All these games sell well in the U.S. and Europe as well. So your comments are pretty stupid. It's good business sense to sell your games in the largest gaming market, which is the U.S. All those games Atlus, Koei-Tecmo, Konami, Namco, etc.. will usually sell more copies in the U.S. & Europe, then in Japan anyways.

senorfartcushion3524d ago

Haha a quite fair comment with 46 or dislikes than likes. How quaint?

rainslacker3524d ago

Cuphead is about the only thing that I'm actually looking forward to atm. GeOW was never my thing as I'm not into the whole space marine thing that much, although I found the first to be a technical masterpiece. Recore might interest me,but I'll wait to see more. QB was a disappointment...which is doubly disappointing since it's why I got my X1 in the first place...not a bad game, just nowhere near living up to the hype and expectations. Scalebound I'm iffy on because I'm not into that whole hip teen in a setting not conducive to such a thing. Forza I'm not that interested in since I'm more a GT guy, and Halo I'm muddling through the SP on the MCC, but don't seem to like it as much as I remember liking the first one way back in the day...and I'm not much of a FPS fan to begin with.

I do find PS4 exclusives more appealing, and varied. I tend to have more fun playing them, and I'm not very often let down by them if they're first party, although some of the 3rd party exclusives don't live up to my expectations.

Sony does have more exclusives, there's no denying that no matter how you qualify the numbers...and people certainly do twist numbers to try and make it seem otherwise. Overall, I'd say that Sony is probably winning, but MS has a pretty sizeable fan base for their exclusives, and I can also see why they're appealing to them, as well as may be appealing to those who haven't jumped in yet. But for the most part, I think if people really looked, they'd be able to find more they'd like on PS unless they are just really into MS exclusives, and those people would likely already have a X1 anyhow.

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CoNn3r_B3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

As of right now I would say yes. With regards to the PS4 exclusives so far there's:
Bloodborne - 9/10 (Metacritic User Score 8.6/10)
Uncharted 4 - 9/10 (Metacritic User Score 7.8/10)
Order 1886 - 5/10 (Metacritic User Score 6.6/10)
inFAMOUS: Second Son - 8/10 (Metacritic User Score 7.9/10)
Until Dawn - 7/10 (Metacritic User Score 8.1/10)
Ratchet & Clank - 9/10 (Metacritic User Score 8.6/10)
Resogun - 8/10 (Metacritic User Score 7.7/10)
Killzone: Shadow Fall - 7/10 (Metacritic User Score 6.8/10)

While the Xbox has had:
Halo 5 - 6/10 (Metacritic User Score 6.5/10)
Quantum Break - 6/10 (Metacritic User Score 6.8/10)
Killer Instinct - 8/10 (Metacritic User Score 6.9/10)
Dead Rising 3 - 7/10 (Metacritic User Score 6.8/10)
Sunset Overdrive: 8/10 (Metacritic User Score 7.7/10)
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition: - 8/10 (Metacritic User Score 7.5/10)
Halo MCC: - 8/10 (Metacritic User Score 7.3/10)

The xbox has just failed to make a definitive exclusive so far, all their big projects either end up being boring or just average, they started with some good exclusives such as Sunset Overdrive but the latest games such as Halo 5 and Quantum Break just fail to impress me compared to games such as Bloodborne and Uncharted 4.

Edit: The metacritic scores are there as an indicator of how the community has perceived a game, I don't care if you agree with them or like them they're there to compare how I perceived a game against a general consensus.

Malphite3524d ago

Why on earth would you post metacritic User scores for console exlusive games?

CoNn3r_B3524d ago

Because the community are the people who play and enjoy the games. The User score section exists for a reason, it's not my fault if you disagree with hundreds of other people.

ShowanW3524d ago

CoNn3r_B...

I can go on MetaCritic and post negative scores for games I have not played...
Some people are pretty honest, while a good portion are slightly biased or never played the game that's being knocked...

Wallstreet373524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

Con...

Stop right there smh User score may have a purpose but we all know the system is heavily flawed. Stop the bs you can go to any game and see 0 score reviews with blatant trolling on any high profile Sony or Microsoft game lol Anyone can post a user score and fanboys go crazy on it so in no way is it indicative of the real user score. Come on dude use common sense bro, user scores arent regulated like Reviewer scores are.

thekhurg...

lol that is complete bs everything does not avg out lol

thekhurg3524d ago

Because for every troll 0/10 score there is some fanboy response of 10/10. At the end of the day everything averages out. Nothing in his list showed some epic disparity between the metacritic score and the user score. Some were a little better and others a little worse.

DarkHeroZX3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

lmao user score means absolutely nothing lmao. you don't have to think its a 10. but a zero? This is just one reason why you don't take personal opinion into account. People don't know how to sensibly critique something.

Aquid
May 10, 2016
0

"Is there anything this game does remotely well?
Assassin's Creed has better climbing.
Gears of War has better cover-shooting.
Bland Indiana Jones story that is even worse than the forth movie.
Unlikeable, generic characters like the Mary Sue protagonist.
Gameplay bores you to death. Awful implementation of QTEs.
No replay value, no innovation since the last three games. They could have literally released the same game four times, it wouldn't have made a difference.
How is a game like Tomb Raider not better in every aspect?
It's the only game the PS4 has except for Bloodborne so it's kind of to be expected that people who only own that console would praise this game when in reality it is just a below mediocre rehash of a series that should have died with its first entry"

And this isn't even the worst.

Saigon3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

Yeah I had to look at at the user scores as well to see what they were saying and though I didn't go to the 0's this one caught my eye.

"Watched on twitch, 15 hours:
Good graphics/animation/face-cap/ha ir and ok story, but no gameplay worth doing.
Probably looks even better on a real console, despite the 30fps.
Seriously silly with the sony product ads for their phone, the playstation1 and the **** crash bandicoot game they've stuck in there assuming everyone loves it, when it fact it was horrible crap. No nostalgia in that.
For a game where all hangs on good graphics and intense scripted fights, turning the screen grayscale when you're low on health makes the game look worse when it's supposed to be the most exciting.
Ends with a super slow long boring ending. All in all, this is a walking simulator."

At least he gave it a 5, but how can you review something from twitch???

edit: I looked at the 0's and wow...is this guy serious.

"I did not enjoy uncharted 4, I personally dislike games like this and although I do not like it, it is a good game and has an engaging story, most people like this game so if you have not played it I suggest you do. don't let my review make the game seem bad for you. this review is my opinion but if I reviewed it impersonally I would give it a 9 or a 10"

Play the game but in my opinion its a 0...wow!!!

blawren43524d ago

scores are completely unreliable. Basically if you eliminate all of the outliers to get to a meaningful review, same with critic reviews. Then actually read the other reviews for a good picture.. Seriously, nothing deserves a zero unless it simply wouldn't boot up. One thing I do like about the Wii U is that you can only review something on the eshop if you actually own it. Too bad there isn't a way to do this on metacritic or anywhere else that I know of.

blawren43524d ago

dark hero zx.

I saw that one too..I think he has to be an N4G user.

rainslacker3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

@Conn3r

User scores aren't a great thing to use for exclusives. Almost without fail, you'll see tons of zeros in there, often giving stupid reasons, or outright admitting they didn't play the game all in an attempt to bring down the score itself.

Even though I prefer Sony, I look at Xbox exclusive user scores and have to shake my head that so many people would be so petty to try and damage a game just because it's not on their system of choice. Even if positive reviews outnumber the 0-3's by a ratio of 3:1, it can still bring down the average by 2-3 points. It's just not a good metric to use when trying to compare games.

The pro reviews are usually pretty close to what they should be though, as they mostly come from people who aren't trying to play console wars, although some of them do which can affect the score, but not to such a degree that they're 2-3 points off on the aggregate.

@thekurg

Some words of wisdom from an old teacher of mine. A zero requires 3 100's to get back to a passing grade. Those zeros hurt a lot more than a 100 helps, which is why the MC user review aggregate is useless to gauge a game by.

If a game gets a troll 0, and a fan boy 100, that still equals 50. That is still lower than what the average may be, so it doesn't just average out.

A troll zero is typically between 6-9 points off the average. A fan boy 100 is only usually 1-2 points above the average. So still doesn't average out.

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Malphite3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

The user reviews are flooded with haters that just give games low scores to drag the metascore down. That's especially true for console exclusive games. It's not a matter of me agreeing or disagreeing. The problem is that those scores don't give you an accurate representation of the general opinion of gamers that played the games to begin with.

CoNn3r_B3524d ago

And how is that different to anywhere else? There are haters everywhere but it doesn't change that the scores depicted above are the general consensus, there are people who will give a game too much credit because they're fanboys.

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holin43524d ago

@CoNn3r_B
Always the same fanboy... Halo 5 - 6/10 ! LOL its been so far the best multiplayer shooter by far.
Kisses hater

Wallstreet373524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

Con....
How is it different? Its different than a score from a reviewer because reviewers are being paid to review games and its their %ucking job. You really have to ask an a question like that? Give it up your not making a strong point when any bozo can put a troll review in user section at will, they cant do the same in the professional review section!!!!!!!! Hellooooooo common senseeeeeeee

thekhurg...

your reasoning is ridiculous and highly flawed lol Either way user scores shouldnt be included in any capacity when talking about games. The flood of trolling reviews is ridiculous and your ignorant if you think it balances out lol

thekhurg3524d ago

They're also flooded with fanboys giving them perfect scores. I see no difference.

rainslacker3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

Pro reviews aren't typically so far off the common consensus where low reviews hurt as much, and the high end does tend to even it out.

User reviews though, you have one troll 0, and one high 100, and that averages out to 50. That may still be 2-3 points off the average of most games nowadays. It take 3 100's to get that 0 back up to 75, which itself may be below the average for the common consensus.

The problem with user reviews is that they are unfiltered, and used to try and attack games on systems that one doesn't have a preference for. It's also used to troll the community to try and bring down anything that can be seen as positive for a system that one doesn't have a preference for.

Unfortunately, MC doesn't filter any of this to get a better mean average, and just lets all the scores aggregate into one base score.

When i go in to look at UC4 user reviews, and click on any of the zeros, and see they give MS exclusives nothing but tens, it devalues the whole point of user scores, because it's plainly obvious that it's only there to help people seek their own agenda. The positive reviews are there to help people express what they like about the game, and while sometimes are overrated due to bias, it's probably safe to assume that the person giving it a high score at least liked the game and isn't just seeking to express their bias.

So, to answer your question, it's really no different than anywhere else...at least in terms of trolls and console wars...it's just that it makes the number less than valuable for comparisons sake unless you care to go and qualify if all things are equal for both sides, and that MS exclusive downvotes are equal to Sony exclusive downvotes. Then, in the end, that'll just start another argument, and whatever you find out would be as meaningless as the user reviews themselves are.

A general rule of thumb I apply to most user reviews from MC is to add 1-2 points depending on how "big" of an exclusive it is. That'll usually get you much closer to what the game is probably supposed to be. After about a year, the user reviews tend to get much closer to the consensus though, after the fan boys have moved onto the next big exclusive, and more people who played the game actually review it without the agenda.

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Malphite3524d ago

And that's exactly why you shouldn't take metascores seriously. Especially not user scores. I never said it's different than the general consensus you'd get on every other forum. All I'm asking is: If you know that the stats are heavily skewed, why base your point on them?

CoNn3r_B3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

Because like it or not that's how the gaming community sees these games, it doesn't matter if they're a hater or a fanboy because they're in the minority. Most of the people who post their reviews are genuine users who either have genuine praise or grievances. These scores may be swayed by fanboys or haters but by only about .5 or at a stretch by 1 point but in the end the game is still in the same score bracket overall.

If I referenced critic reviews people would complain that the critics were paid to write say that and if I didn't reference any reviews people will complain that what I said is just 'fanboyism' or I'm being a hater. So if I have to reference someone I'll reference the community.

rainslacker3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

Except that's not how the gaming community sees the game. It's like saying the majority of the gaming community see's UC as a 7.8 game right now, yet the majority obviously don't. It doesn't show what people who played the game thought of it, because they're own opinions are brought down by the trolls. It at best, shows how the console war preferences are skewed, and it's reasonable to assume that it's going to be about 2:1 right now in favor of Sony.

MC user scores are one of the few places that trolls actually have some negative effect on the community beyond annoyance, because they can quite literally affect scores which are used for others to gauge a game's worth.

Just looking at the first three reviews you listed for Xbox, I can't say that I've felt the community at large, particularly those into Xbox, or at least that have an Xbox agree with those scores. I'll even say that most Sony fans who aren't fan boys would not agree with those scores, either based on what they may have read from others on forums, or from having played the game by some means. PS scores are closer to what I believe the community would score the games at(except UC4), but that's likely due to the install base of PS4 being much bigger now, a fact which also helps to bring down the Xbox user scores.

Malphite3524d ago

If every game would be swayed by roughly the same amount I could agree with you. Games on the higher end of scores will be heavily swayed by low scores. Games that are generally reviewed with average scores will have a more legit userscore cause they are equally impacted by the low and high extremes. That way everything is swayed towards the middle.

That's why you see a 16% difference between the critic reviews and the User reviews of Uncharted 4 while the difference is less than 5% for the Order: 1886.

CoNn3r_B3524d ago

I do agree with that and that's why I always add 0.5 for a standard exclusive and 1 for a big exclusive, as a reference point it's still an acceptable margin for error.

OB1Biker3524d ago

your listing random titles though. Why remasters on xb1? why not DriveClub and Forza for example?
I dont think many care about MC users either

CoNn3r_B3524d ago

I haven't played Driveclub or Forza, not my type of games.

Eiyuuou3524d ago

Regardless of my console preference, the metacritic userscore is the definition of a cesspool.

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RiPPn3524d ago

And of those Xbox exclusives, how many are also on PC, or the easier question, how many are true exclusives? Halo 5, Halo MCC, and Sunset Overdrive. Safe to say if you have a gaming PC and aren't a Halo fan the exclusive output on the Xbox One has been severely underwhelming.

Wallstreet373524d ago

I was going to say the same thing lol why post user scores when so many are troll accounts it isnt indicative in no shape or form of what users think of a game. Its like posting Amazon user scores lol

TheColbertinator3524d ago

Hahah metacritic user cores? Truly pathetic

fungusar3524d ago

You forget Forza Motorsport 5 ,6 and Forza Horison

Matology3524d ago

I think this gen Xbox have just got to keep plugging away putting out games here and there, even if they are at best average games. It shows they are trying and bringing new IPs. Xbox 360 relied too much on COD and Halo to prop it up and that has dried up.

Phill Spencer has a chance to build for the future, his team can create a powerful Xbox away from TV centric content, COD filler and 3rd party reliance.

If the next Xbox comes November 2017, early 2018 then stack it with IPs that are fresh, exciting and from foundations that should be put in place from the Xbox One, not from games that had their day on the Xbox 360.

Halo, Forza looking at you. Its time to use that mega M$ money to build talented studios that will provide for the next 20 years and not for a time exclusive.

lastking953524d ago

Lol nice spin, halo 5 6/10? QB 6/10? Ect Get your info right

BattleAxe3524d ago (Edited 3524d ago )

LOL nice try with the incorrect metacritic scores.

- Halo 5 has an 84 meta
- Quantum Break has a 77 meta
- Dead Rising 3 has a 78 meta
- Sunset Overdrive has an 81 meta

I could check them all and you've messed with every score. It's really pathetic, the lengths that people will go to for being a fanboy of a console. Grow up and get a life!

343_Guilty_Spark3524d ago

The meta score for Halo 5 is 84. You are purposefully being misleading.

XanderZane3524d ago

The User Scores on Metacritic is completely tainted with biased gamers who will give games 0 scores when they have never even played the game. There are even 0 scores for Uncharted 4 on there. lol!! This is why you don't use User Scores from Metacritic. It's just senseless.

Phar0ahad33523d ago

this list is unfair in many ways your also leaving out like 50 ps4 exclusives...

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ninsigma3524d ago

For me they are. Just a better lineup of quality games that suit me! Xbox has some great games that I've enjoyed but I've also been more disappointed by their offerings than than I have with playstation.

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Sony Remade Demon’s Souls, So Why Won’t It Touch Bloodborne?

The Outerhaven writes: Bloodborne is still one of PlayStation’s most beloved exclusives, but it remains trapped on PS4. Meanwhile Demon’s Souls got a full PS5 remake. But why?

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thorstein15h ago

Demon's Souls was a PS3 game.

Bloodborne is PS4 and can be played on a PS5.

There's no need for a remaster.

Relientk7712h ago

I completely agree with you on this. If you want remasters or remakes give us games from the PS1 or PS2 era like Legend of Dragoon.

Eonjay6h ago

I would say thats a personal oponion trying to be passed off as a law. Truth is thre are many people who would love a remaster.upgrade so they can play Bloodborne at 60 FPS. People would literally love that.

shadowhaxor9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I mentioned that in my article, did you read it? I literally pointed out this is exactly why the game is still doing well, and why Sony has zero reason to remake/remaster it.

And there are plenty of PS4 to PS5 remaster/remakes, to counterpoint that.

Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
GTA V Expanded & Enhanced
Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut
Control: Ultimate Edition
Death Stranding Director’s Cut
Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade
Uncharted: Legacy of Thieves Collection
The Last of Us Part II Remastered

Eonjay6h ago

Either because they technically can't because From Soft wont allow them too, or because From Soft is sorking on the sequal, remaster themselves. Therre is a third option of course and that would be that they are working on it

MinnesotaFatts4h ago

Some part of me wonders if there's some sort of corporate war going on at Sony.

Daver7h ago

I want a new one not a remaster

victorMaje6h ago

TLoU got the remaster & then the remake treatment.
Where is the next bloodborne, or remaster, or remake?

Goodguy015h ago

What it needs is a ps5+pc release. The game absolutely needs a 4k60 update. Lots of money sony is sleeping on while the souls genre is still hot.

MinnesotaFatts4h ago

Tell me you don't know what a remaster is without telling me.

Bloodborne is infamously capped at 30fps on either system--a bizarre design choice given that speed and reaction time is central to the gameplay systems. This capped performance was never patched out officially, unless you jailbreak and mod your console. A remaster for modern hardware, not the infamously finicky PS4 devkits, would be a great way to both hyper-optimize the game *and* drive sales for the PS5, which still doesn't have a system seller title.

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RaiderNation9h ago

There might be some licensing red tape they cant get around?

shadowhaxor9h ago

That'd be interesting, but Sony owns the IP 100%. So, I can't see how that is part of the issue, if there is even one.

RaiderNation5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Maybe Sony isnt interested in doing it without the assistance of Miyazaki and he's not interested? (Just spit-balling).

MinnesotaFatts4h ago

That's the issue according to FROMSOFT. They'd *love* to do a remaster, but Sony won't even return their calls.

Inverno9h ago

Because they're saving that for the PS6 to lure in all the suckers that will think they're making a sequel, but the whole gen will pass by and From won't ever touch it because Song doesn't care for either Demon or Blood outside of remakes.

Furesis6h ago

Because they made them do something else, then they canceled it and who knows what they are doing these days. They dont understand what they have and honestly i dont think they know what they are doing either.

blacktiger5h ago

How bout forget remade and start making new game pls?

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Rockstar launches official marketplace for mods

Rockstar has launched an official marketplace for "every server and every player" to buy mods: Cfx Marketplace.

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Christopher2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I wonder how much of this isn't just taken work of others who have modded for free.

Edit: Also, great way for R* to take popular ideas and build them into GTAVI based on demand.

fr0sty10h ago

What I see happening here is, R* is going to ban mods in GTA6 UNLESS you buy them from the marketplace and R* then gets a cut of that sale.

ActualWhiteMan13h ago

Ah, perfect timing with them taking down the Bully online fan mod. Greedy a$$ company.

Christopher10h ago

It's okay as long as they get a cut of the money.

fr0sty10h ago

Expect R* to force it on you.

Snookies124h ago

Yep, right there with you. I'll happily donate to a mod creator if it looks really cool, or if I enjoy it. But expecting payment up front? Nope, not touching it.

IanTH9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

I'm not entirely sure how to read this, as it doesn't seem exactly like an exact parallel to Bethesda's paid mods shenanigans.

Rather than single player stuff, this appears to be aimed solely on Cfx Servers. From what I've gleaned, apparently Rockstar bought the Cfx mod team several years ago, coming a few years after weird contentions led them to ban a few of their members. Ultimately, the question is if they plan to keep this contained to only online/servers.

I have to guess to a degree yes. It'd be pretty hard to "force" paid mods for single player when modding files locally on your own machine, but much easier for servers they'll control. So perhaps this is their soft launch ahead of GTA6 online and they'll clamp down more tightly on non-official servers going forward? Ever since they've become a 1 or 2 property studio, I haven't really cared much for Rockstar stuff, so I'm not entirely up on everything surrounding this. Sounds like it has the potential to be problematic further down the line, but right now fairly easy to ignore...I think lol.

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Kotick claims lawsuit objecting to MS-Activision deal was "tied to Embracer's desire to boost sales"

Former CEO describes lawsuit filed by Swedish pension fund as a "collateral attack" on Activision Blizzard.

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OpenGL1d 7h ago

Yeah, the Microsoft deal has DEFINITELY worked out for everyone.

galgor1d 3h ago

Can this mother fucker just get lost already

PRIMORDUS1d 2h ago

He belongs in here ⚰️, hopefully sooner than later.

MrDead11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Kotick Made $155 million from MS in the buyout, the little b*tch needs to stop whining. Thanks to this Microslop deal and massive industry consolidation thousands upon thousands of devs and other workers lost their livelihoods. This greedy piggie pervert needs shut up and f-off.