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EA Talks About Extending Software Support to NX

TCC: The publisher doesn’t appear too confident in their support for Nintendo's upcoming console.

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Ashlen3643d ago (Edited 3643d ago )

Of course they're not going to support it.

EA's goal "imho" is to damage/eliminate Japanese competition as much as possible. At the start of this gen (again imho) they colluded with Microsoft to have all their exclusives on Xbox. Then only because of PS4's success were they forced to make all their games multi-platform.

They didn't really support Wii they didn't support WiiU at all they didn't support Vita at all and they barely supported PS4 at the start of the gen.

superchiller3642d ago

Sounds like you're a bit caught up in silly conspiracy theories. I don't think so, the simple reason that EA is being cautious, considering that all of Nintendo's recent consoles have featured weak specs and missing features, making them unable to handle the same games on competing consoles. If Nintendo wants big publishers to produce games on their hardware, they need to do a better job designing that hardware, and stop focusing on gimmicks. It's really not more complicated than that.

gamingpro3642d ago

Lol I don't even read this trolls comments anymore, just automatically disagree and move on like every one else as there is never any truth in anything he says, just pure hate.

Ain't nobody got for this superidiot d;o)

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hardcorehenry3642d ago

seriously, brah?

If it makes sense financially, EA will do it. If it doesn't, they wont. Mystery solved.

_-EDMIX-_3642d ago

Agreed. Its as simple as that.

wonderfulmonkeyman3642d ago

If EA wants it to make sense financially, they have the power to MAKE it make sense by doing the games in a way that will APPEAL TO THE NEW NX FANBASE.

If EA can't do that, then EA, and their apologists, have no one to blame but EA themselves.

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ghostface93642d ago

japanese game makers only support japanese consoles so why cant it be the other way around. Also the reason ea and most third party developers didnt suport the wiiu is because nintendo is crappy when it comes to third party relations so its not just ea

_-EDMIX-_3642d ago

Is that why they published Shadow Of The Damned? A Shinji Mikami and Suda 51 game?

"EA's goal "imho" is to damage/eliminate Japanese competition as much as possible"

Buddy, the reason why EA doesn't want to support Nintendo is because Nintendo won't support 3rd party. To say that about EA, is to say that about Rockstar, Rocksteady, Bethesda, Squaresoft, Capcom, Gearbox etc and many more.

Many stated they wouldn't support Wii U with their key titles based on difficult, expensive architecture. I know you don't like EA bud, but this isn't really a EA isolated situation. Consider Square and Capcom didn't release their top titles on Wii U. For gods sake, RE2002 remake and RE Zero skipped Wii U and those titles started out as Gamecube exclusives, even Revelations 2 skipped Wii U and the first Revelations started out on 3DS. Maybe you have something going with you're theory, but if others were not stating the very same story, maybe its just a misguided theory.

We can say you're EA theory is correct, but we'd have to say that is the goal of the rest of the publishers/developers that skipped Wii U and I don't really buy that theory.

"they colluded with Microsoft to have all their exclusives on Xbox. Then only because of PS4's success were they forced to make all their games multi-platform" LMFAO! Hold on, what? LOL!

"they barely supported PS4 at the start of the gen" What EA exclusives released for XONE the start of this gen? BF4 launched on all platforms start of this gen though. (besides Wii U lolz)

EA didn't own the Titanfall IP, just like they didn't own the Left 4 Dead IP last gen, soooooo if you're going to use those examples, please understand publishing a game doesn't mean its you'res. Consider MS published Sun Set Overdrive, they don't own the IP to it so I wouldn't see it as "Microsoft's" as legally its not.

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wonderfulmonkeyman3642d ago

They'll support it "If it makes sense."
Translated: "If Nintendo greases our palms and kisses our ass."

As beloved as I'm sure EA's frequent sports titles are by their multiplat loving fans, I'm honestly sick of their condescending attitude to any fanbase outside of whatever they've already established.
It's like they don't even WANT to try to strengthen and grow the NX fanbase for the sake of even higher profits, and that's just stupid.

LOL_WUT3642d ago

If Nintendo wants 3rd party support, they need start proving their system can compete with the other two. However, with the NX delay and the WiiU's drought, it seems like there's little hope for 3rd party support. ;)

wonderfulmonkeyman3642d ago (Edited 3642d ago )

The NX was never "delayed".
It wasn't given an initial release date of anytime before 2017 in the first place; people just assumed things without basis, then got upset when they were off the mark.
Besides, the system is releasing in 2017 precisely to avoid the drought that the Wii U went through in its first year, so your speculation is off the mark as well.
Especially with rumors of big names like Square Enix already lining up to put hotly anticipated titles like FF15 onto it.

jcnba283642d ago

How was the NX delayed when they have only given us one release date window which was March 2017?

LOL_WUT???

;)

NXSwitch3641d ago

It will be fine if they get all of Japans 3rd parties onboard. Ps1 & 2 was a hit because of Japan developers.

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pcz3642d ago (Edited 3642d ago )

its business.

if you were a game developer and had to feed and clothe yourself, pay your rent, feed your family etc, how would you invest your money?

would you publish your game on the console with a large install base, with gamers who prove they will most likely purchase your game based on past sales..

or, would you throw your money down the drain by publishing your game on a console with a tiny install user base whos gamers persistently ignore your titles. plus the console is not even adequately powerful enough to release your game in its full glory, instead you have to gimp it beyond recognition.

this is why EA and the vast majority of devs will not be on board the NX or any other nintendo console. history proves me right

you cant blame EA.

wonderfulmonkeyman3642d ago

A part of smart business is taking the opportunity to expand when it's presented to them.
This is that opportunity.
And if they play their cards RIGHT, it can be a profits source for them.
If I were a game developer, I'd want to do everything I could to get my games to sell well to as many people as I could, and I'd take whatever steps were needed to do it so that profits would continue to rise.
That includes making games for all three consoles.
It's not throwing money away if you know how to sell to the audience.

So yes, I CAN blame EA, if the NX turns out to be a great system and they don't take the opportunity to capitalize on that chance with the RIGHT GAMES at the right time.

History is but a guide; it doesn't guarantee future events anymore than your little crystal ball does, and it doesn't guarantee you're right about the NX being ignored.

Sit down.

jcnba283641d ago

Aren't you the same clown who complains about Nintendo not having any third party support? Now you're saying EA shouldn't put games on Nintendo's consoles?

Hypocrite much?

_-EDMIX-_3642d ago (Edited 3642d ago )

"They'll support it "If it makes sense."
Translated: "If Nintendo greases our palms and kisses our ass." ????

Buddy, they are a business, it must make sense for them to agree to support it. If they can't make money on it, they have no ode to Nintendo to produce content on their platform.

That is like telling a retail store (Nintendo) to have freezers to house our products as vendors (3rd party) if they want our business.

You can see it as "kisses our ass", but how on earth do you think Walmart and Target get vendors that have frozen goods? Are you really going to be the stupid retail store saying "we won't kiss their ass"?

Soooooooooooo how can they do business with you, if you won't do business with them? I don't think Nintendo is at liberty to be telling 3rd party what is accessible for support. 3rd party doesn't need to support Nintendo platforms, NINTENDO needs 3rd party support to successes, The ball is in their court, to actually bring functions to their platform to support 3rd party wishes.

Its why PS4 has 8 gigs of ram and x86, its why 360 added 512mb of ram when Epic suggested it. Those moves are why both those companies are getting 3rd party support. The work WITH 3rd party to make platforms, NOT against.

If you are going to make a store and you know you need vendors, you must create an atmosphere that allows vendor's products to function, be marketed well etc. If you feel this isn't the job of the retail store or Nintendo as a console maker, buddy.......retail stores like Walmart and Target (console makers like Sony and MS) will be GLAD to point out exactly why they are better then you. It happens all the time. If you really think they can bully their way with 3rd party, ask the Wii U how that process went with them.

If you are a vendor for ice cream and 1 retail store has a freezer in all stores and another retail store which has less locations states to bring you're own....which one are you REALLY going to go to? So spend MORE MONEY for the retail store that has less or spend less money with the retail store that has more locations and freezers available?

Its pretty simple bud. If you want to do business with someone, seek what they want. Getting someone something the want, will ultimately get you what you want. It is a very basic, key staple to doing business.

http://www.amazon.com/How-W...

Please read this book! lol, read it when I was in middle school, had to read it again when I was getting my BA in business. Its helped me countless times, a chapter exist that is solely about helping others get what they want. Don't focus on what you "Nintendo" wants, from Nintendo's prospective, the must focus on what 3rd party wants if they wish to do business. You don't walk into a car dealership asking how much commission the dealer will get as that is irrelevant to you, you are asking the miles, price, model of car etc. You are asking something that is relevant TO YOU! Thus why would the dealer only talk about what they want? They are not the customer now are they?

TheColbertinator3642d ago

Nintendo can cooperate with other publishers instead. Its own Japanese publishers are better suited or additionally Take 2,Bethesda,Warner Brothers and Codemasters.

The potential might not seem noticeable right away but Ninty can court publishers it hasn't before. Better than ignoring most 3rd party and pushing your console all by yourself. I was a Sega console fan for 15 years and that strategy never worked.

wonderfulmonkeyman3642d ago (Edited 3642d ago )

To be fair, Sega's IP's didn't really have the strength to last as long as Nintendo's does without third party support.
That's not to say that Sega's IP's were bad; they just couldn't carry as many consoles solo into the future as Nintendo's does on a regular basis.
Heck, even with the Wii U, Nintendo has made profit instead of staying in the red, due to no longer selling at a loss.

Having said that, I still feel that third party is important to the NX's success, but moreso in the realm of exclusives and less well-known titles, rather than big AAA multiplats that gamers have already trained themselves to buy on everything BUT Nintendo's systems, such as Battlefield.

For instance; Imagine an HD remake compilation of Super Robot Taisen OG Saga, OG Saga: Endless Frontier, and OG Saga Endless Frontier EXCEED.
They're all excellent JRPG's with AMAZING sound-tracks and lovable characters, and the stories and combat are really interesting.
Giving those three an HD make-over from 2D models into 3D ones, getting both English and Japanese VA, and letting the player choose the battle music that plays regardless of which version they play, would all be an AMAZING project that Nintendo could DEFINITELY make big waves out of if they released it onto the NX during its first year.
And given Atlus's run with Nintendo over the years, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to convince them to agree to such a project, especially if it were on Nintendo's dime.

Oh, and here's a little treat, just to demonstrate how good the music can get in the series:
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

_-EDMIX-_3642d ago

"To be fair, Sega's IP's didn't really have the strength to last as long as Nintendo's does" Yet Wii U just sold 12 million in almost 4 years.

Not sure what you're talking about bud, at this point they might be pretty neck and neck.

_-EDMIX-_3642d ago

"Ninty can court publishers" Not really. What publishers and developers want are pretty much the same, dependable hardware powerful enough to support their concepts, easy enough to not be costly, in a format that allows them to easily port to.

That can be done without Nintendo ever needing to um "court publishers" they are coming because of what is happening under the hood, not because Nintendo is convincing them of something. They are coming because something is in it for them business wise. its as simple as that.

Are you not factoring that those same publishers mentioned "Take 2,Bethesda,Warner Brothers" etc also didn't work on Wii U for the exact same reasons EA isn't? lol

" I was a Sega console fan for 15 years and that strategy never worked." agreed, they must seek to work with, not against.

Activemessiah3642d ago

EA really think highly of themselves don't they...

_-EDMIX-_3642d ago

They are correct to when you factor just how much software they move. EA pretty much can decide a console generation if it came down to it.

ie Dreamcast, Wii U lol

If EA went PS or XB exclusive, by default the other platform would fail. You are talking about a platform having Madden, Fifa, Mass Effect, Battlefield, Titanfall, etc as exclusives. It would bury its competition over night. Regardless of how one personally feels about EA, they can't disregard they are one of the top publishers in gaming regarding sales.

When you have someone like EA getting revenue at like 4.5 billion a year, its something to take note of. They have the power to shift a consoles failure or success.

wonderfulmonkeyman3642d ago (Edited 3642d ago )

LOL, EA didn't do jack shit for Wii U even when their games appeared on the system, just like the majority of the rest of the last-gen ports that could not use the power of the system as an excuse for how poorly they were made.
Because the games were all the mark of bad business planning; late ports with content missing that no one sane would want.
You keep talking about business, but you don't seem to understand that these third parties are failing to succeed on Nintendo's home consoles because they keep bringing out the wrong games, and keep doing all the wrong marketing decisions.
Decisions that, if they had not been done, or had been reversed sooner, might have had a shot at making EA, and other third parties, a strong selling point for the Wii U, and that they MIGHT be able to do with the NX if they stop listening to people like you, who claim that it's smart of them to avoid a new business opportunity that could make them the profits they need to expand even further, just because they're riding high and mighty on other systems.
EA only has "the power to make a console succeed" when they make the right decisions in regards to the games they bring and how they're marketed.
They've focused all the right efforts on Sony and Microsoft consoles, and all the WRONG efforts onto Wii U, and likely NX, which means their games will only drag the NX down, just like they dragged down the Wii U by not pulling in multiplat lovers through QUALITY ports of last-gen games.
Go back to your precious "business classes", and sign up for some that teach common sense while you're at it, because it's quite apparent you're still trying to put all the blame for bad multiplats on the consoles they come to, rather than the fact that the games themselves were horrible games that even their most devout fans on other systems would have ignored had they come to those systems in the same form.

*mic drop, walks out*

_-EDMIX-_3642d ago

@Wonder- "LOL, EA didn't do jack shit for Wii U" Because Wii U didn't do "jack shit" for EA....

Yet EA made 4.5 billion last year on PC, PS4 and XONE?

Um...ok bud. lmfao!

"these third parties are failing to succeed on Nintendo's home consoles because they keep bringing out the wrong games" nope. They are failing because they don't have the proper tools to succeed.

ie

This

http://www.ign.com/articles...

Yet developers are breaking records on PC, PS4 and XONE...sure bud. Pretty positive its not the developer in this case as many of them you've mentioned are BANKING else where.

"They've focused all the right efforts on Sony and Microsoft consoles" I see you still fail to get it.

Because Sony and MS focused their EFFORTS ON 3RD PARTY! Nintendo had slow, expensive, hard to use proprietary crap. Sony and MS had more easy to use open x86, thus got support day 1.

PS4 has 8gigs because a 3rd party developers stated 4 wasn't enough, it has x86 because MANY developers stated Cell was too hard and too expensive to work with. 360 got 512mb because Epic wanted Unreal Engine to work better and needed that ram.

Don't you get it? Is billions and billions being made by 3rd party on other platforms seriously not enough for you to get that Nintendo is the odd man out? NOT 3rd party? Sony and MS provided what was need, thus got the support. Its basically that simple.

They focused on Sony and MS, because Sony and MS offered them ways for their concepts to work, thus the game was made on those platforms. The whole world can't just be wrong on this notion bud as it starts to just sound idiotic on you're point to keep making it seem as if its some conspiracy or something.

Sony brought their own engineers to Valve to mend those issues, Valve released Portal 2 and CSGO on PS4.
Microsoft talked with Epic games to get their input on 360, and added more ram to get their support.

Want to know why Sony and MS are successful? Look at how they respond to 3rd party, look at how Nintendo responds. PS3's Cell happened, didn't return for PS4. MS for the most part as always been extremely good with 3rd party in regards to development and support.

I'm not even sure why you keep making it sound as if its some isolated situation with Nintendo, when we can state such things happened with Sony and MS and where CORRECTED! Nintendo needs to follow Sony and MS route and start figuring out what 3rd party wants with a console. They need their input, JUST like Sony needed it from Valve, JUST like MS needed it from Epic games. That input is why we have 8gigs in PS4 and not 4gigs. If Sony never listened and just made PS4 the way they wanted to, XONE would have had more ram then PS4. Working together will always trump working against. Its a staple concept of business.

A man that works in the dark cannot see his mistakes, but man that works in the light can see and fix his mistakes.

Herbalistic3642d ago

The huge western publishers aren't going to rush in to support unless Nintendo could ensure them that there is an audience willing to buy their software

wonderfulmonkeyman3642d ago (Edited 3642d ago )

What they don't realize is that Nintendo can only build an audience for first party software.
They could have PS4-level numbers of consumers, and it still wouldn't do the third parties any good if those numbers were formed because of Nintendo's first party.

Third parties need to put in the effort to make NX owners WANT their games, by making their games worth getting on NX.
The only thing Nintendo can do to help them is to give them a powerful system, but it's going to take more than power for third parties to make a profit.

_-EDMIX-_3642d ago

"What they don't realize is that Nintendo can only build an audience for first party software"

How well did that turn out for Wii U though? I mean...you have an example of that going bad, not sure why you keep making it seem as if it can work even with an example currently saying otherwise.

wonderfulmonkeyman3642d ago (Edited 3642d ago )

@ed

It didn't work out for Wii U, because Nintendo left their first year of that system's life almost entirely to third parties.
You can't say the Wii U is an example of first party not carrying a Nintendo system, when there wasn't enough first party present, compared to the number of third party multiplats, to affect that sort of change, so your entire "example" is complete BS right from the get-go.

If anything, the Wii U proved that third parties have lost their touch at making their multiplat games sell to a whole new fanbase that doesn't ALREADY love their games through their experiences on OTHER platforms.

Also, as to your other BS response:
ROFL.
Arkham Knight didn't come to Wii U because their first attempt at making a Batman game sell on the system failed.
Nothing more, and nothing less.
There was nothing about that stupid car that would have forced them to keep it off the Wii U; even if they had had to lower the resolution a bit, they still could have fit that game onto the Wii U if they had tried, Batmobile and all.

You keep bringing up new multiplats and power, while entirely IGNORING the fact that IT WAS LAST GEN PORTS THAT FAILED TO SELL THE WII U TO GAMERS.
And you cannot blame that on the power of the system, because the system HANDLED LAST GEN PORTS JUST FINE when the developers showed some competence at their craft.

They didn't need PS4 level tools to make PS360 games run on Wii U; the system was powerful enough to handle them.

THEY STILL DIDN'T SELL BECAUSE THIRD PARTIES SCREWED UP.
That one single point, and the fact that you can't wrap your head around it, shuts down your entire post.

You're excusing piss-poor development on the part of third parties, and using that piss-poor development as an excuse for why they didn't bring anything else to the Wii U other than those ports.

FFS, sit the F down. LOL!

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio2d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing2d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster922d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit2d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing2d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster922d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Guild Wars Publisher CEO Warns AI Can't Replace What Makes Games 'Instinctively Fun'

TNS - NCSoft CEO admitted that AI is rapidly becoming a core part of game development, but he added that it cannot replace what makes games fun.

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Lionsguard6d ago

To be fair, there are also human made games that release and lack any fun at all either.

jznrpg6d ago

But all of the great games have been made by humans

jwillj2k45d ago

One is by choice, the other is a feature.

PRIMORDUS6d ago

Guild Wars 2 been playing for 14yrs, 1st beta. This is just one company I support, Arenanet and NCSoft, even though I torrent, there are a few PC companies I will buy from. "PlayStation’s Horizon MMO spin-off, Horizon Steel Frontiers." I feel this will be good, NCSoft is a good developer/publisher.

CrimsonWing695d ago

It’s a tool. Use it elevate things and get it done faster. I’m sorry but not every game made by humans is good. If this can help things, then I fully embrace it.