"I honestly think Nintendo could do better by relying on the huge Japanese publishers" LOL! No...

I see no reason why they would seek to only support Japanese publishers as that doesn't even make any sense. So what would the do to get Japanese support? Are you not even reading why developers left Wii U?

They had the same UNIVERSAL issues with Wii U that other western publishers had.

ie LOTS of Square games didn't come to Wii U, the Kingdom Hearts collection didn't come to Wii U, FFX didn't, they have other titles coming literally in a few months to PS4, PS3 and PSVita that are not coming to Wii U.

Capcom's top IPs didn't come to Wii U, Resident Evil 2002 and Zero remaster didn't come to Wii U (yet came to PS3 and 360) Revelations 2 didn't come to Wii U either, clearly RE7 isn't coming to Wii U so I seriously don't get what you mean by "relying on the huge Japaneses publishers" as those same publishers dumped Wii U the second they saw it had garbage proprietary hardware.

Sooooo are you not factoring that the west wasn't supporting Wii U for the same reasons the Japanese were not?

Where are those Japanese titles on Wii U now bud?

The issue is not west or east....its Nintendo's hardware. They must streamline it if the want support from ANY publisher or developers. Not sure why you thought Japaneses publishers would put up with Nintendo's bad hardware, considering they didn't with Wii U.

If NX is the same as Wii U in terms of proprietary design, expect the same results by not just western publishers, but Japaneses.

Also EA getting 4.5 billion revenue a year is reason enough to seek to have their support. They are pretty much the gate holders to having a successful platform. They have a huge majority install base in the gamers that are buying PS4 and XONE right now.

" if Atlus stepped in and delivered HD remakes" LOL! Bud, Sega isn't getting out of bed to port a bunch of titles to a low install base, with bad hardware. Consider Sega isn't even doing that with Persona series or Yakuza right now on PS4. Buddy, at least ground you're wishes with what you've know such publishers to do in the past vs wishful thinking.

How come FFX isn't on Wii U?

"FAR FAR FAR FAAAAAAR better candidates for establishing the needed trust in third parties, on NX, than publishers like EA and Ubisoft are at the moment" I lol'ed hard.

EA's revenue is like 4.5 billion a year. No buddy, for a fact their isn't much publishers that will fill the void of EA considering their stance in gaming at the moment. You don't need to like them, but millions and millions buy their games each year. More people buy EA games EACH YEAR, then 3x the Wii U's entire install base they took almost 4 years to build.

" if Atlus stepped in and delivered HD remakes" LOL! Bud, Sega isn't getting out of bed to port a bunch of titles to a low install base, with bad hardware"

I stopped reading right there.
You have no clue what the hardware of the NX is going to be like, so calling it "bad hardware" and assuming the install base will be "low" right off the bat is asinine, at best, and hater talk at worst.
Also, you're entirely ignoring the fact that a lot of the reason third parties ditched the Wii U despite not even having tried to release games on it, was due to the mob mentality that resulted from the failure of third parties that made shitty business decisions in their Wii U multiplats.
Once they saw how publishers like EA and Ubisoft made the Wii U an unviable platform for their efforts, thanks to their terrible last-gen ports tanking the reputation of third parties on the system, they turned tail, realizing that those western third parties had thoroughly salted the land[Read: Wii U owners] as they left, leaving no fertile soil for the majority of other third parties to grow off of.
The NX, however, is a direct opportunity for Japanese third parties to start the NX out strong.
And if they want even better profits than they're now enjoying, having Nintendo in their corner, and profitable, is a smart business decision that they shouldn't turn their nose up at just because they're already doing well on two other consoles.

"Also EA getting 4.5 billion revenue a year is reason enough to seek to have their support. They are pretty much the gate holders to having a successful platform. They have a huge majority install base in the gamers that are buying PS4 and XONE right now."
There you go again, ignoring the fact that in order to build that fanbase, EA had to do games in a form that the fanbase they were trying to sell to would accept.
Something that they did NOT do on Wii U, which resulted in THEIR EFFORTS creating THEIR FAILURE to move a platform.
You need to stop relying on your precious "business classes", and start using your own head; the install base that EA has to sell to on PS4 and XBone, doesn't yet exist on Nintendo platforms, because they've done nothing substantial to FORM that love for EA's games on Nintendo platforms.
EA can't carry the NX with weak last-gen ports and no effort in advertisement for the NX versions of their games.

If you really aren't a Nintendo hater, like everyone here already believes you are, and you actually DO want EA to make even more profits by becoming successful on Nintendo platforms as well, then you need to stop shouldering all of the blame for the past onto Nintendo, and start demanding that third parties like EA make the proper business-minded efforts to make their games a success on the NX.
That means that they need treat the NX the same way they do the PS4 and XBone, so long as it has the power needed to bring the same games to the system.
Which it undoubtedly will, since there's no direction for them to go but up, after the Wii U.

If you don't want third parties to treat the NX the same way they do the other systems, so that their games are fully-featured and geared to sell right out the gate, that just shows that you don't give a damn about whether or not third parties make profit on the NX, and are just commenting to show how much you've come to hate Nintendo.

The Japanese market is not what it used to be. Japanese games rarely appeal to the masses. Unless it releases in Japan first, they should just focus on the western market. ;)

EA jumped ship before the ship was even created.

@rjason- "EA jumped ship before the ship was even created" were they wrong to?

Consider how Wii U turned out....

no one really knows what happened between EA and Nintendo...was Nintendo being cheap, was EA being unreasonable? We don't know. We can just hope they make up for the NX.

Somewhere along the line, the unprecedented support didn't materialize and it snowballed into every other major third party developer. There were too many factors involved to blame any one pary...just move on and fix it from here.

No, he got it right. Nintendo really needs to prove itself to 3rd party developers, not the other way around. And to start with, they need to design much better hardware, not the gimmicky low-spec stuff they've been producing for the last decade or so.

Not sure what you may be citing specifically, but hearing EA say "As it relates to Nintendo, we've had a tremendous relationship with them over the years. And we will evaluate any and all opportunities with them in the same way we do all platform opportunities." and then the follow up later on to saying "We’re in constant communication with them and when they come to market something – and if it makes sense for us – we’ll be there" is basically the same statement to me.

Both statements are 100% non-committal. Evaluating any and all opportunities is not committing to anything. Their second statement of i "if it makes sense to us - we'll be there" is a statement of evaluation. So again... EA is basically saying we are pumping the breaks on all Nintendo games and not just going to throw time and effort at their product until we feel comfortable with their machine and market uptake. Given the later years of the Wii and the WiiU entirely this is a sensible and understandable approach.

Nintendo and Nintendo alone are responsible for the position they are in with regards to 3rd party. EA may not be a likable company but you can't blame them for what Nintendo put out and their direction of the company and hardware.

@Dlacy- 100% agree!

EA isn't just supporting PC, PS4 and XONE for lolz. They support platforms that make them money, this is a business.

LMFAO! That isn't really lying bud. That is merely saying if Nintendo's end of the agreement sticks in.

That is like saying if a game is cancelled they "lied" lol