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Modern Warfare/Infinite Warfare Problem Solved

Eskimo Press: "Nearly everybody that I have talked to is extremely angry at Activision; they feel betrayed and cheated because they are forcing you to buy Infinite Warfare so that you can get Modern Warfare remaster. I’ve honestly tried to join the fist-shaking trend, but I just can’t get mad."

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starrman19853636d ago

I am not paying £60+ for a remaster of MW, despite how good the game was! Look at Infinity Wards history, MW1+2 - absolutely fantastic. Jason West and Vince Zampella were fired pre-MW3, MW3 came out still carrying some of the weight of the previous ones (probably did have some influence from those two) but it didn't hit the spot as well as the previous games. Their next game Ghosts was a complete shambles, granted it was a fresh game to next gen but it was still terrible compared to previous games.

Now we have Infinite Warfare, going by the track record it could bomb even more - it could also be amazing, but I really wouldn't put money on that. They also announce MW remaster but only with the deluxe version of their game, a smart but really slimy move. You know, I wouldn't be that bummed out if they threw it in with every copy, you could at least then pick up a cheap standard copy just for the remaster and it wouldn't seem too unreasonable. But to throw it in with the higher priced copy is just a joke.

I really do hope this actually puts people off buying it, or at the very least pre-ordering. I'm definitely waiting for the reviews to hit with this one.

Chaosdreams3635d ago

Rationally speaking it will stop people from buying the next instalment. However there will still be numerous people who buy it, both very young and uncaring, or fully aware and indifferent, or a mixture of the two.

From a business perspective this move makes sense. However it also just reminds everyone that this is the publisher with multiple studios working on a franchise that isn't for the gamer, but simply for the profit. There's no heart in the games anymore, it's all just calculated for the addiction factor. It's important they make money to stay afloat but they've made enough money to be able to take some actual risks, and reward their dedicated fanbase, rather than continue to milk them and throw PR lines at every complaint and concern.

Anyone who goes cold turkey or just gets tired of it, will eventually look back and wonder why they continued to play Cod when arguably the series had seriously lost itself after Black Ops.

I was excited when I heard about Cod4 being remastered, but when I heard that it only had 10 maps and it was locked behind a paywall, I laughed and haven't thought about it since. I have my good memories, I don't need to pay a leech for a few more.

SolidStoner3635d ago

Agreed, for sure mw was good, but not 80 euro kinda good after 10 years... It's nice we have a new game dlc Call of Duty: Infinite Mistakes for free.. But still, that package lacks soul and is created for milking purposes, so thanks, but no thanks!!!

Chaos_Order3635d ago

It's such a shame because CoD4 really felt like a labour of love, a work of passion. So to see the series reduced to this is just... disheartening.

NatureOfLogic_3635d ago (Edited 3635d ago )

A lot people are upset that Activision doesn't want to compete with themselves lol. They want to avoid any possible way of COD4 becoming more popular than their newest featured release. Can you blame them? This whole situation could have been avoided by ignoring gamers and not even making a remaster version at all.

Next_gen_20153635d ago

IMO if you're buying IW just for CoD 4 remaster you should wait. Im sure infinityward will sell separately later down the line.

Personally im buying IW...if its good then im going to sell it and buy the legacy edition. 2 good games in 1 package...

SolidStoner3635d ago

Don't you dare to buy IW, just don't.. If you do, you will definitely get next year IW 2, even worse.. I know hard to imagine, but just think about this .. Higher jumps, even deeper space, people forgot English language (so they can focus on gameplay only, no need for dialogue when gameplay is 2 hours long with explosions Only.... ) 2 multi-player maps - toilet and bathroom.. Only two guns available - rpg and noob tube... 2 vs 2 players... Maximum round length 2 seconds, all that for only 80 euro with bonus remastered dog with fish AI... Do you want that??? I think no, so don't buy the damn Cod IW...

Muzikguy3635d ago

Im hoping it puts people off as well.

ITPython3635d ago (Edited 3635d ago )

The last game the original IW made was MW2 IIRC. The IW now is no different than Treyarch was back in the days when the real IW was making COD games. Essentially a generic studio using the same foundation created by the original IW and just reusing it over and over and over.

The original IW went on to become Respawn, which develops the Titanfall games.

I think people forget that the IW now is NOT the same IW in the COD4\MW2 times. They were a completely separate studio that just inherited the name.

The original IW were the architects of all that is COD, as all games after MW2 were essentially modeled after it. The original IW were the devs that everybody looked forward to playing their biyearly COD, while treyarch was the generic "filler" COD for the year in between.

The IW now is in the same category as treyarch, just a generic studio reusing the foundation that the original IW made with COD4 and MW2.

cyberwaffles3635d ago

It's hard to differentiate IW with Infinite Warfare or Infinity Ward. Damn you COD.

NatureOfLogic_3635d ago

It's funny though, I would take Treyarch's BO2 over any IW(old or new) COD.

thorstein3635d ago

The game came out almost 9 years ago for last generation consoles. Some people have never played it online due to the fact that they were only in their childhood. I know there were plenty of kids whose parents didn't care, but there were far more that did.

This is an opportunity for them to play a game they never had access to, but are now mature enough to enjoy it.

Is it a cash grab? This industry works on profit, so yes? Who cares.

Should old shooters be rehashed and rereleased?

Absolutely, Battlefield Bad Company 2 is one of the most asked for remasters. DICE's Troedsson said. "But there's one thing that lingers with Bad Company that we've been asking ourselves: what is it that the people really liked about Bad Company?"

I would buy the remaster of that game.

amazinglover3635d ago

Funny thing is If they where available separate but also available as a bundle for the same price as if you bought both separate I would have bought the bundle to help support what is left of Infinity Ward but since its only a bundle I will wait till they offer MW as a stand alone last CoD game I bought was BLOPS 2. Played the others thru redbox and found them mediocre especially the crap that was IW last game Ghost so it looks like I will redbox this one as well to just to play it and see how far IW has fallen in terms of game design.

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iDadio3636d ago

And if you believe the rumours it is completely wrong.

Apparently you will need the Infinity Warfare disc in your system to run MW, if that's the case then sadly you cannot pawn that off.

Doesn't matter which way you look at it, it is a d**k move by Activision to guarantee more sales for their main product so they can tout how its so successful.

PSN_ZeroOnyx3636d ago

Problem is, no actual genuine source has ever suggested it's tied to the Infinite Warfare disc. Somebody simply said "I hope it's not tied to the infinite warfare disc" in a comment section and BOOM, the gaming hate machine on the Internet screamed "RUMOR".

Stop being sheep on the Internet hate wagon and wait for facts people.

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ZeroX98763635d ago

based on prior greedy moves from activision, this is why the rumor feels so real.

cell9893635d ago

its like this boys: if Infinite Warfare fails with low attach rate. Then we are guaranteed that Activision will be selling The Modern warfare remake digitally at some point. If we get suckered and buy Infinite warfare than forget Activision ever selling it separate. Your call boys ......

nitus103635d ago (Edited 3635d ago )

If you buy the media then after the install you have to put the appropriate disk in before the game will play.

Why is this a problem you have to do this for all games you install on the PS4 or XB1 via the physical media. If you install via digital download you don't need a disk to authenticate.

Jmanzare3635d ago

@cell
Lol right. Call of duty always sells

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Kallisti3636d ago

Your article is bad and you should feel bad

cell9893635d ago

some innocent kitten has lost its life because of this article

conanlifts3636d ago

Except there are rumours that cod 4 will be tied to the infinite warfare disc. So no disc in the drive and cod 4 won't work.

nitus103636d ago

If you have brought the media then you need to put the disk in the drive so you can install (first time) then play the game. How is this a problem since you do that for all media installs for the PS4 anyway. If you install via digital download then there is no need to put a disk (since you don't have one) in the drive for authentification.

Nitrowolf23635d ago

The issue is that this rumor that comes from just random people speculating is that you absolutely need Infinity Warfare to even play the remaster. Meaning if you wanted to Pawn off the game you can't do that if you want to continue playing the remaster

conanlifts3635d ago

As nitrowolf2 said, the rumour is saying the disc needs to be in the drive for the game to work. So if you sold infinite warfare cod 4 won't work as there is no disc.
I have no idea if it is 100% genuine, but i wouldnt be surprised.

brianunfried3635d ago

I'm guessing Modern Warfare will be on the disc and a code will be required to unlock it. Have you ever bought DLC and it's only 100k download, that's because it's already on the disc.

cyberwaffles3635d ago (Edited 3635d ago )

Which is why everyone hates the practice. Online gaming, as cool as its evolved, has also created many setbacks. One of them being holding back content for the sake of extra sales, especially when the content is already on the disc. We are essentially paying for a key which is BS.

IceKoldKilla3635d ago

It wasn't the case with MW2 Hardened/Prestige Edition that came with Call of Duty Classic.

Antifan3635d ago

Just like the Taken King, it will be on disc locked from the start.

cyberwaffles3635d ago

Yeah but they will most likely have a standalone release in the form of a digital copy. Give it a year after the initial sales rush of IW then they will sell it separately as an option. Then you can wait for MW2 remaster, BO, MW3, etc.

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wars19863636d ago

il get it one way or another

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Only nine franchises make up the top 20 all-time best-selling PlayStation chart in the US

In honour of PlayStation's 30th birthday yesterday in the US, data company Circana has dug out figures showing the top 20 best-selling PlayStation video games ever (date-range Jan 1995 to July 2025). Don't get too excited.

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JEECE226d ago

This is a great reminder of how game sales have become more concentrated in a smaller number of games/series over time. In the PS1/PS2 era a game was a success if it sold a million or a few million copies. The GTA games (3/Vice City/San Andreas) were pretty big outliers in selling as much as they did during the PS2 era. So in the minds of a lot of gamers something like FF VII feels like it was as big of a PS1 game as God of War 2018 was for PS4, but in reality far fewer people bought it (though it has obviously reached additional people through remasters, etc.).

StoneTitan226d ago

this was alwalys the case and will always be the case. with everything

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Zerobalance226d ago (Edited 226d ago )

What this says to me is, not many people are buying a PS to play PS exclusives. Like so many false narratives, like Xbox gamers don't buy games! It seems Playstation as a default system is a vanilla system to play call of duty, Minecraft, GTA games and a sports games.

badz149226d ago (Edited 226d ago )

if you look back into the PS history, it has always been the 3rd parties who sells the most games. it was just that the PS1 and PS2 were so dominant that many of those 3rd party games were exclusives. so, back during the PS1 and PS2 days, the strategy was "to sell as many consoles as possible in order to sell more 1st party exclusives" to ride on that wave. The strategy to push many 1st party exclusives to sell consoles only started with the PS3 when many of those prior 3rd party exclusives went multiplat but more accurately, it started with the PSP.

Sony saw with the PSP, which was being trounced in sales by the DS, that 3rd party exclusives are hard to come by if you're not dominating the market. So they started building more 1st party games and when the PS3 were facing difficulties in sales, they knew they had to rely on their own to differentiate the PS3 from the 360. So the strategy back then changed to "release more 1st party exclusives in order to sell more consoles".

the only manufacturer that is still consistently selling their hardware to play 1st party exclusives, is Nintendo, and that was because they gave up the armrace for power thus they can't rely on 3rd parties anymore as all multiplats play better on competing consoles. AND that's also why they are the most ominous in going after emulators and also patent trolling!

so, you're not wrong there, but not an "aha!" moment or anything. it has been this way since the last, at least, 15 years for Playstation.

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Deathdeliverer225d ago

@zerobalance

So... what this tells you is that Call of duty, being the absolute check writer that it is, has been outsold by Last of us, God of war, 2 Spider man games..... Saying Playstation exclusives doesn't sell is like saying call of duty doesn't sell because they have outsold some of iterations. Does that make sense to you?

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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare III Coming to Game Pass July 24

Everything you need to know about Modern Warfare III coming to Xbox Game Pass and PC Game Pass.

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darthv72641d ago (Edited 641d ago )

Will be interesting to see what sort of numbers GP users draw in come tomorrow. It is believed that this is one many have been waiting for.

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thesoftware730641d ago

Darth,

That is not accurate; this game is old, and most people who want it have already bought it. You might get a small number of subs, but we will mostly see a good influx of players(not new subs) from people with Game Pass who will try it, which is what happened with D4.

CoD: BO 6 will be the test for actual sub numbers.

darthv72640d ago

That's fair... seeing as many have been saying they want CoD in GP. My comment was more of , now that its here... what can it do. Im sure there will be other titles in the franchise that will either entice or turn off different users.

Bathyj641d ago

No one's buying a console and signing up for a monthly bill just to get this game to avoid buying it. That's ridiculous. Besides everyone bagged the crap out of this on release for the 4 hour campaign.

andy85641d ago

Sweet. Never got round to it on release. I'll give the campaign a go

chicken_in_the_corn640d ago

Severly underrated game. Big improvement over 2.

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Why MW 2019 is still the best looking Call of Duty to date

MW 2019 is five years old at this point and on previous gen hardware, but it is still the best looking Call of Duty game to date.

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EazyC738d ago

MW was an excellent videogame. They messed up Spec Ops big time, but aside from this it was a huge step in the right direction initially. Most notably, at launch it seemed to come from a very cohesive creative vision that was felt across gameplay, to story to art style/visual direction. It was also very notably written by prominent ex-Naughty Dog guys that quit almost immediately before release.

That COMPLETELY dissolved through post-launch content and the full pivot to a "cross-mode" narrative that completely obliterated the cohesion in overall story direction. Warzone then "became" the new face of Call of Duty and the franchise completely removed itself from anything remotely creatively "good". It is a pure money machine, so I kinda get why they're doing it....but I personally completely lost interest.

I would love to see Infinity Ward move off CoD and get to make their own product with full control. They clearly have some massive talent in their ranks but it's perverted by Activision's corporate interests.