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What's with all the DOOM hate?

George Foster from GamersFTW writes:
With the DOOM beta having just been made playable to the public, I weigh in on the reasons why it seems to be having a tough time with fans of the famous series.

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Maple223681d ago

I wonder if the hate stems from people expecting a little more than what we have been given. Perhaps the full game will get a better reception.

lipton1013681d ago

I played a game of the beta; deleted it immediately. I'm just not a fan of old school (or new school) arena shooters. Even call of duty fits into the mold. Super fast character. Small maps. Not my thing, I prefer a slower, more "thinky" pace, such as with a game like rainbow six siege or battlefield 4.

KyRo3681d ago

Bandwagon jumping and people mixing up Dooms MP with Quakes MP long story short.

Agheil3681d ago

Bandwagon is the keyword here, I swear I'm happy to see someone else say it too. People hear one person saying something and the sheep follow. Doom has always been chaotic moving between corridors and killing Desmons. The MP can't be exactly like the old game, so people bitch about change and if it didn't change I gurantee people would've said it's too similar to past games, Call of Duty is a great example. People just switched their complaints from, "it's the same game every year" to "I hate futuristic gameplay". They'll never be satisfied. I loved the MP and have the game preordered and paid for! Can't wait for it to release !

Kleptic3681d ago (Edited 3681d ago )

I get what you guys mean...but 'mixing up doom's MP with Quakes MP' doesn't make much sense...

Doom became quake...Quake 1 was the 3D revelation that took over where Doom's semi 3d nature left the genre...There has NEVER been a real sequel to Doom, especially multiplayer wise...and Doom 3 doesn't count, that wasn't a game that should've been in the franchise...that was a test bed for Dead Space, which handled that type of gameplay 100x better than whatever Doom 3 was attempting...

So all i mean is that Doom doesn't really have a multiplayer identity to begin with...Quake does, but quake just expanded on the arena style nature of the original doom games...doom was:...deathmatch on certain single player levels...and co-op...that was it...there were mods, and tweaks, and that kind of unofficial stuff...but literally that was all the base game(s) ever included.

So when people keep hammering it for 'not being doom', I don't really know what to say about that...is it not doom because it has a game mode that isn't just straight up free for all death match? And its 'not doom' because it has features more inline with Quake III?...but, Quake III is arguably still a 'doom' game, and its important to point out that the original dooms came out before developers and publishers franchised the hell out of everything...no pun intended...

1nsomniac3681d ago

Rubbish. It's getting all the hate because it's been plugged all this time as a true revival of the original Doom series. It feels nothing like Doom. I don't understand why people don't get that.

People are understandably angry because ID knew all they had to do was revamp it with a new story & graphics & everyone would be happy. Instead they jumped on the COD "bandwagon". With the ridiculous idea of weapon load-outs & perks it was Doomed from the start.

Pongwater3681d ago

"all they had to do was revamp it with a new story & graphics"

If they did that it would simply be a different group of people complaining, and if it felt like the original Doom it would rightly be called archaic.

DLConspiracy3681d ago (Edited 3681d ago )

"all they had to do was revamp it with a new story & graphics"

What part of the Story have you played?

hardcorehenry3681d ago

Lets be real here. 1 random guy in a dark corner quietly said the word "loadouts" and a million hipsters exploded into a torrent of furious twitter hatred.

I wasnt sure going in to the beta. Now im sold!

warriors_133681d ago (Edited 3681d ago )

um, no. doom/quake has always been known for their arena deathmatch gameplay. they advertised the game as being like the original. then they add newb friendly console features like loadouts/perks and completely dumb down the skill required for this type of game (map knowledge, awareness, item timing, aim, movement...) due to "hacks" that do everything for you.

thats why true fans of the series are disappointed while the new generation of console halo/cod shooters are defending it.

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Shillmeister3681d ago

The Open Beta was good, great fun even, and the customisation is addictive and surprisingly deep, but I can understand the angst against it, it just didn't 'feel' like an arena shooter, which it was labelled as being. However, that's because I've had experience with the likes of Quake, Unreal Tournament, and the older DOOM titles, so I have a strong mind as to what an 'Arena Shooter' should be in my eyes, I bet most people who haven't experienced said titles would have seen the modern DOOM as very much an arena shooter, because although it doesn't play like older arena shooters, it definitely plays much differently to modern FPS titles.

1noobgamer3681d ago

I personally liked the Beta, it had a nice feel to the old games. It is a beta so I guess we have to give it a chance.

ILikeGamesYeah3681d ago

Open beta was mental! I couldn't get my mates into it though. They get upset and angry when they die then complain its the stupid game.

True competitive multiplayer may be dying in my opinion sadly. Just take halo 5 for example, so much hype on bringing it back to its roots with arena 4 v 4. But a lot less people play arena than warzone. Some people want the instant gratification and don't want to work hard to be better than others. Everyone wins no one is punished.

Movefasta19933681d ago

Halo 5 is a bad example,that's the best arena shooter out now.

ILikeGamesYeah3681d ago

My point exactly! The arena game play is the best thing about it, although we're in the minority as more people prefer progression in multiplayer than competitive even starts. Don't get me wrong, war zone is fantastic it's just an example of where mp is heading these days.

Movefasta19933681d ago

Are people really playing more warzone than arena though?I took a break from halo 5,but all i used to play was arena and big team battles.I had like 4 warzone games total.

ILikeGamesYeah3681d ago

How can more people be playing war zone when all you used to play was arena. Doesn't make sense

Movefasta19933681d ago (Edited 3681d ago )

How does it not make sense?Just because i don't play warzone doesn't mean others don't.You are the one that said less people are playing arena so YOU TELL ME lol.

ILikeGamesYeah3681d ago

Sorry, was trying sarcasm and kind have given up with this

MasterD9193681d ago

I don't think the arena shooter market is as big as they claim it is currently. Doom could have evolved into a modern day FPS and still maintained it's status just fine. We haven't seen an Unreal game in years, nor Quake and the last iteration for both of those games wasn't exactly the highlight of any particular series.

And personally, not having ADS in a shooter now kind of feels like a step-backwards. Roots or not.

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I hope they make a Doom themed VS unit with red lighting. it will be like the Duke 3d one they did a couple years ago.

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anast374d ago

Simon's Quest is better than Symphony.

djl3485373d ago

If you're gonna troll, at least make a legitimate attempt.

Levii_92374d ago

Hot damn that's a good list. The only one i never played is AOE2 and i never finshed Chrono Trigger but it was damn good.

Speaking of what's old but holds up amazingly well and plays like a dream.. i played Symphony of the Night for the first time in 2019.. yep that's right. It became one of my favourite games of all time that i replay almost every year. I couldn't believe how good it was. That is almost impossible for me with newer games let alone older ones. Truly a special gem.

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That's a pretty fucking great list

__y2jb373d ago (Edited 373d ago )

The only one I’d disagree with is doom. It shows its age badly I think. After 5 minutes of play these days you put it down.

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thorstein463d ago (Edited 463d ago )

After watching Scavengers Reign? The answer is unequivocally yes. I really want something out of left field but I think people are too afraid to shake things up.

It's what I love about Shadowrun and Black Mirror. Love, Death, and Robots proved that there's an audience for stuff that doesn't fit the mold.

Gamingsince1981462d ago

Weird games in general we don't get enough of, we need more games like Katamari and Mr domino, things like that

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