For the Ps3 you didn't need it so they put really good games on there to entice people to join now it's a service you need to play online and Sony knows it so they don't try as hard

plus the ps4 sales are huge not much competition they don't need to spend money on aaa games for psp when they know people will join anyway.

And those tv shows you speak of are not in all regions, not in mainland Europe for instance, we don't have any PS TV/Movie functionality at all except the 3rd party ones like Netflix, Hulu, etc.

I never had PS+, I play MP games tho so I find it worth it and the discounts, cloud saves and the occasional 'free' game I like are a great bonus. Without the need for online play I'm not sure I would have PS+...

You should try ea access,oh wait,Sony decided you didn't want the choice.for the gamers....

" For all the complainers with loud voices online, there are just as many sitting quietly at home enjoying the games that are being released to the service. Even if it were AAA games being released (they'll get there eventually), people would still complain they don't have an interest in the ones on offer or that they already have it."

I love how people automatically assume that everyone is always going to complain. While its true that there were complainers even back in the glory days, there were many more defenders and a lot of people were extremely satisfied with the program.

If I'd say PS + sucked, even as later as 2014 on here, I'd probably get a few agrees and 40+ disagrees. Now a days I can say it and it would probably be reversed.

"I don't see anything wrong with the games that are coming out, they just don't look particularly interesting to me to take time out of the other games I already have on my list."

The issue is largely rooted in how things changed. Plus went from being a failing program offering games on par or worse than the current offerings to routinely giving titles like Batman, Demon's Souls, Uncharted, LittleBigPlanet and much more to offering titles many people simply don't care about.

The other, arguably bigger, issue is that Plus changed when the PS4 came out. Before it was an optional program that offered cool games and was an amazing deal, then Sony made it required for online on the PS4 and over time the quality of freebies went downhill. It gives the sense that Sony thinks they can just give whatever and people will keep supporting it because of the online requirement. Especially when the program went from boasting a 70+ MC minimum to thinking 54 is acceptable.

"Moral of the story is, you can't please everyone, so don't try to because you'll end up pleasing no one."

I also think your story is flawed. You're basically saying, Sony can't win, so they shouldn't try.

Regardless of what you think, feel or believe, Sony turned Plus around with the IGC, where it was well praised for quite a while (the only complaints were typically when another region got something better). Sure there were off months, but most people were quite satisfied with Plus and the idea of complaining was foreign to most users (outside of other regions getting things they rather have).

Now a days people are largely dissatisfied with the offers again, yet Sony seems to keep offering worse titles. There is not pleasing people and borderline giving up like we have now.

that's just it. You can never please everyone. As individuals our expectations, taste, opinion, interests, the fact we (most) have the ability to freely think mean that as individuals there will never be one thing that pleases all.

Unfortunately with the internet, self entitled, unrealistic expectations, and so on we hear far too often and far too many of these complaints.

Agreed, games are debated on their own basis anyway.

No game can satisfy "everyone".

Someone never had PS3's PSN, back when Sony cared.

It still is, you get Hitman and MGS4

@gangsta_red

PS4's offering could be better with back compat…But its still better than Xbox One's offerings

Here's how: Both are offering 4 games playable on current gen consoles (2 AAA & 2 indie games)…

For PS4 the 2 AAA games are: For Honor & Hitman 1; while the 2 indie games are: Gunhouse & Rogue Aces

For Xbox One the 2 AAA games are: Assassin's Creed: Rogue & Star Wars: Jedi Academy; while the 2 Indies games are: Bloodstained: Curse of the Moon & Super Bomberman R...

The only difference is that the 2 AAA games for Xbox One are old gen games…while the 2 AAA games for PS4 is current gen

Seems Sony is aware of this and the PS5 may have backwards compatibility.

Do you mean that GWG has offered the same game free more than once b/c no I'm pretty sure they haven't. Also both services tend to have a lot of carryover. trackmania Turbo and Trials Fusion were on GWG long before they came to PS+.

Obvious PLUS WON, they will give 9 games vs 4 on gold.

Those days of $40 are long gone.