Dark Souls III Suffering From Big Frame-Rate Issues

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Thisgengaming3706d ago

That's very early in the game, and it does run well early. There's sections later in the game that run terribly.

Aloy-Boyfriend3706d ago

Back at it again at only including the PS4 in the title when it is both consoles having the issue

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Thisgengaming3706d ago

@XiKurapikaKurta Thanks for confirming it's both consoles having the issue. I have changed the title.

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Nitrowolf23706d ago

This is pretty much a normal for souls game, there's always that one section that the fps just goes to shit

Looking at you blight town

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nX3706d ago

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G20WLY3706d ago

I'll trust Digital Foundry (the experts in this field) rather than thisgengaming.com (the trolly tabloid). They say first look at DS3 is fine.

Even NXGamer is leagues above this website, despite having next to no budget. They're trustworthy too, with well founded, fact-based opinions, which is something of a novelty around these parts...

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raWfodog3706d ago

@ nX and G20WLY

To be fair, even Digital Foundry addressed the frame-rate issue and Thisgengaming did say the game is still brillant and the best played so far this year.

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assdan3706d ago

They always have had this issue.

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frostypants3706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

So, it's like every Souls game ever made? Frame rate issues come with the territory.

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DrumBeat3706d ago

Man, Xbox One couldn't even render the HUD at a native 1080p. It's also curious that the Xbox One hands in a worse performance with resolution and shadow quality dialed back.

Still, if you're an Xbox One only owner, it's worth it to get this game. It's Souls after all.

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starchild3706d ago

Unfortunately, From Software aren't particularly strong in this area. All of their Souls-type games last gen and this gen have had various framerate issues.

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wheresmymonkey3706d ago

Having played through most of it, I can say, on the PS4 at least, that even early on it runs like crap. you'll walk round a corner and the frame rate will plummet from 30ish frames to a juddery heap.

Weirdly the places it did it in the early sections of the game ran fine when i played the preview build a few weeks back.

Basically i think the day one patch has done more harm than good.

IamTylerDurden13706d ago

Souls typically doesn't have a great framerate. The combat is a slight bit clunky as well, this is where Bloodborne shined by comparison (responsive combat).

This why i'm so excited for the PS4 exclusive "Nioh". Team Ninja will have fluid and tight combat in a Souls esque game. It looks stunning.

Pre Alpha footage, wow imo.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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frostypants3706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

Too cartoony both in look and movement. Part of what I like about Soulsborne games is characters have some weight to them. You can't just fly all over the place like a Street Fighter character. Nioh on the other hand looks too God of War/arcade-like. I see them trying to play to the Souls "die a lot" concept, but it looks like they kind of missed a lot of what made Souls successful.

Looks fun, but I don't like them trying to market it like a Souls game. It looks WAY different.

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PFFT3705d ago

Mother of GOD! That looks amazing! Koei Tecmo has been on a roll recently! This game looks freakinng sweet!

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WrestlingNewsFan3706d ago

I'm still looking forward to it. Issues like this will be patched soon.

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Wallstreet373706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

Since when does Fromsoft ever patch their games to fix fps drops or frame pacing on consoles? Lol never.

thekhurg3706d ago

Why are people disagreeing. They haven't patched for frame pacing issues ever.

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Wallstreet373706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

thekhurg...

The same reason i had ppl disagreeing and talking crap when i stated in another article that "they have worked on this engine too long to be having frame pacing and fps drop issues in their Souls/BB games and they have no excuse to fall on". Some people cant be fans and be critical or open minded to certain things. Not all companies are perfect and deserve to be called out or pushed forward to do better.

Funny thing is im one of the biggest Fromsoft fans and have beat all the souls games and platted BB but ppl said i was trolling lol smfh

Its really weird to me how ppl get defensive when you criticize their favorite company. Its like their blind to all the negative and see only the positive.

Anyway my Dark Souls 3 CE will be arriving soon, i cant wait. And yes i buy fromsoft games because even though there are performance issues the positives far outweigh the negatives.

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IamTylerDurden13706d ago

They patched Bloodborne like the first wk or 2, it fixed the framerate dramatically.

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Wallstreet373706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

Iamtyler...

I have BB and the patch came out more than two weeks after and honestly before that i hardly had any fps issues so that patch did nothing for me. From what i remember that patch was mostly to fix the horrible loading times, some bugs and maybe some performance issues but i saw no difference in fps so that dramatic fps change you say wasnt dramatic to me lol (hey i could be wrong)

They never ever fixed frame pacing issues which was the main issue with the game.

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timmyp533706d ago

From Software is the new TellTale with their weird ass engine

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isa_scout3706d ago

Nowhere near as bad as TellTales engine.

timmyp533706d ago

it's not as bad as in the straight up bugs that happen with TT but they need to revamp it soon.

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quent3706d ago

There were some crazy performance issues with their Game of thrones series, the rest of their games ran fine though, for me at least.

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Blastoise3706d ago

Come on From Software step it up. It's getting annoying now.

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solidboss3706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

Bethesda with fallout, from software with the soul's games and tell tale with all of their games. Gamers are aware and tired of shitty game engines GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER.

frostypants3706d ago

Don't buy it, then?

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solidboss3705d ago

So you accept companies that use old game engines with glaring issues rather then take the time to develop a new engine that will benefit from not having the game held back by issues from said older engines?

frostypants3705d ago (Edited 3705d ago )

@solidboss, yes, I accept it. If it's a big enough issue to make the game not be worth the money to me, I won't buy the game. We don't have to give them our money. I'm not seeing your problem. If you still buy the game, clearly it doesn't bother you to an extent that will ever be meaningful to the developer.

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deadfrag3706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

FROMSOFTWARE will not fix this just like they did not fix the framerate and frame pacing issues on the other Souls games and Bloodborne.FROM technical expertize is a load of crap just that.Even the PC version can not achieve a solid lock 60fps with a 980gtx,crap technical developers all they want is money for this unoptimise shit engine.

Herpofderpopol3706d ago

I'd rather frame rate/pacing issues than the issues offered up in pretty much every other game. Like lack of content or depth or any sense of achievement.

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Pongwater3706d ago

It's like they have a contractual obligation to include an area that has too much going on. It's my favorite series of all time, but ffs…

ZeroSins3706d ago

Seems like a cpu bottle neck. Overloading by having too much A.I.(mainly path finding algorithms aka blight town). Maybe having more cores will reduce this issue. Dx12 should remove this communication slow allowing better communication between gpu,ram, memory allocations.

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Herpofderpopol3706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

I know you shouldn't have too, but in a bunch of areas I've found that pointing the camera up or just away from where there's a lot going on(in all the previous games at least), you can help it a bit.

VJGenova3706d ago

So, I won't be able to run it @4K then? :'(

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wheresmymonkey3706d ago

You will, the frame rate issues are on console version. the PC version runs at a nice smooth 60.

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Caedus5113706d ago

There are reports out there that indicate there are frame rate issues even on the newest hardware for PC. It's a software driven problem, not hardware.

There's a reason the DSfix mod was created by the community for the pc port of Dark Souls 1. From Software, while an amazing artistic developer, is not known to make the best performing games.

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frostypants3706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

"the PC version runs at a nice smooth 60."

*sigh*

No. As always, it depends on your PC. On a PS/One equivalent PC, it's gonna run the same or worse than on a PS4/One (unless you kill the other settings).

Also, you're not running this or anything else at a playable framerate at 4K/60fps on your PC. Gimme a break. If you think you are, you're probably running at 1440p or 2K and don't know what 4K actually is. Hint: you aren't running it and won't be for a while.

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VJGenova3705d ago

Games that use SLI run @60 fps in 4k, no AA. These include:

ROTTR
Far Cry 4 - no game breaks
AC Syndicate
DS SOTFS
Crysis 3 - oldie but goodie
MGSV TPP

Witcher 3, GTAV and others run at 40-50 fps. They are smooth and very playable. Just need 2 980tis to do it ...

I played the division beta and sadly, sli scaled very poorly. Not sure if it's been worked out yet.

frostypants3705d ago (Edited 3705d ago )

@Genova84, I was being somewhat hyperbolic. Yes, of course SOME people have a rig that can do it. But the number is staggeringly small and I'm confident in saying that most of the people on N4G who throw around the 4K gaming argument DON'T have such a rig.

Dual 980ti's would set one back over $1300. The number of people that run even ONE 980ti would be tiny.

He said the PC version will run at a "nice smooth 60" for you, without having any clue what specs you're running (never mind that it probably isn't true even with what you're running due to the engine in question). I just get irritated when people (not you) make blanket claims about PC games that not only don't apply to the vast majority of gaming PCs, but likely don't even apply to their own. 4K @ 60fps is a tall order without spending a metric ton of cash.

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Satyre283706d ago

My 970 awaits!

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starchild3706d ago

Yeah, mine too. At least on PC you can power past the inefficiencies.

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Maxor3706d ago

Even the PC have issues in the later levels, one have been reported to run at a horrific 15 FPS in the swamp when the rest of the game runs at a silky smooth 60 FPS.

Regardless of what platform you're on this is yet another Souls game that desperately need a day 1 patch.

But like you said, on the PC once they iron out the issues Souls games always runs at a buttery smooth frame rate.

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Gwiz3706d ago

When it's really an engine issue it usually doesn't power you around it.

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Rookie_Monster3706d ago

If you have a PC rig, there is no excuse to buy it on any other platform.

nX3706d ago

There is, I prefer to play on my TV and collect the trophies on PS4. Also Bloodborne allowed coop with PSN friends so this might as well.

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wsoutlaw873706d ago

Every souls game has had coop.

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CaptainObvious8783706d ago

I have a gaming rig, but I'm buying it on PS4.

Why?

Because I'm a slutty, slutty trophy wh*re.

I need help...

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VJGenova3706d ago

My younger brother has a rig like mine, but still buys some games on xbone so he can play with his friends. this isn't a concern for me, as i have no friends ...

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nowitzki20043706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

@nx and captainobvious

Steam has achievements, and something called trading cards that you can sell for real money.

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IamTylerDurden13706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

Looks like there are lots of reasons to buy it on console. Me personally, i want trophies, i want to use the lovely DS4, and most of my friends are on PS4. Hey, 3 reasons!

Here's a 4th. What if u own a garbage PC? Or a mediocre PC? Not every PC owner can play games at optimal settings. Some ppl would be better off playing on PS4 actually. At least u know your games will run on console.

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frostypants3706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

I have a PC rig. I have a PS4. My PS4 is not as powerful as my PC. But I like to play Souls games at my couch on my big TV. And I'm not hooking up my PC to my TV. Ever. That's what my PS4 is for. There's my excuse.

On a less important note I am also a traditionalist. FromSoftware games = Playstation for me.

Also, the player base argument is sound as well. Playstation will likely have the largest player population by a significant margin. Which means easier summoning (unless DS3 has cross-platform matchmaking, which I don't believe it does).

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frostypants3706d ago

@nowitzki2004, yes, Steam has achievements. But let's be honest...nobody really pays much attention to them. At least nowhere close to Live or PSN.

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nowitzki20043706d ago (Edited 3706d ago )

@IamTyler

"At least u know your games will run on console."

Well if you actually build a rig for gaming and not just go to BestBuy and buy a "good computer" then you will have 0 worries.

@frosty

I dont even pay attention to achievements or trophys to tell you the truth. I used to, got up to 30,000 gamerscore by 2007 and just hit a wall and ever since I could care less. Sometimes I do the NBA 2k ones but dont care about plats or anything. Just play the games and if I get them then I get them.

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starchild3705d ago

I don't mind which platforms people choose to play on, but some of silly excuses people come up with make me chuckle.

@frostypants
I pay attention to achievements on Steam as much as I do trophies on my PS4.

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Back-to-Back3705d ago

Maybe you dont want to deal with hackers.

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ONESHOTV23706d ago

970+4790k as well hoping to max it with a sweetfx when they put in on the site

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wakeNbake3706d ago

Im still hyped either way.

Thisgengaming3706d ago

You should be! It's still a great game.

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Kyosuke_Sanada3706d ago

Blightown III?

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loaldnt3706d ago

Can confirm. Playing the game by a week, and while the first level runs smoothly, the rest is usually a mess. Nothing bad as blight town, though.

AdrianSmith7773706d ago

DISAPPOINTING !!

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Kreisen3706d ago

For a game like Dark Souls having your fps drop so low in the middle of a fight is unacceptable. Especially with graphics like that.

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IamTylerDurden13706d ago

Nioh already looks prettier and smoother.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

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BossBattle3706d ago

I'll let the Titan X deal with it.

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Eiyuuou3706d ago

Yay! I was already missing Blighttown!

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KwietStorm_BLM3706d ago

What a surprise. When are they going to have a serious look at that engine they've been running?

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Tobsesan3706d ago

Just like EVERY souls game? No sht sherlock

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NickAwesome3706d ago

I really wanted to buy this game but after experiencing frame pacing and frame rate issues with bloodborne (still not fixed to this day) i decided not to (unless they find a way to fix those issues), i don't know if game developers are overly ambitious or they just can't, my best experience this gen is by far the phantom pain, good graphics and amazing frame rate, i wish more developers opted for better frame rates instead of fancy graphics

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IamTylerDurden13706d ago

Bloodborne runs much better than at launch. It actually runs pretty well.

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NickAwesome3705d ago

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1:32 30 fps but with frame pacing issues that unfortunaly give the impression that the framerate is much worse than what actually is, why can't they fix those issues i don't know,they don't seem to care, it doesn't seem so hard to fix this

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TGG_overlord3706d ago

I could be wrong, but hasn´t that been the case with all of the previous titles as well?

quent3706d ago

yeah its their Achilles heel, creatively their at the top of their game, but they do struggle a bit on the technical side of things, I'm still gonna play the crap out of it.

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VJGenova3706d ago

I got dark souls 2 day 1 on pc and don't recall any performance issues aside from the super annoying durability bug where weapons degraded faster at a higher frame rate ...

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WellyUK3706d ago

If bloodbornes performance is anything to go by then It's probably horrendous with god awful frame pacing.

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Liqu1d3706d ago

It's clearly a Blighttown easter egg. /s

Is this specific to one platform or are all platforms affected?

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RomanPSX3706d ago

They already mention that there is a day 1 patch for all plataforms. Idk if the patch will tix the problem but it may help.

ufo8mycat3706d ago

I would take this with a grain of salt.

They said the same with Bloodborne, yet I didn't notice any framerate issues, aside from that first area with the enemies around that big fire and even that didn't hinder my experience. Rest of Bloodborne was absolutely fine. So yeah

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starchild3705d ago (Edited 3705d ago )

You must just not be sensitive to framerate inconsistencies. But more perceptive people can certainly feel and see the unsteady framerate. Personally, it was really annoying to me. Not to the point of being unable to enjoy it, but more of a nagging annoyance.

RAWRferal3706d ago

As much as there are frame rate issues, it doesn't seem much worse than any other Souls game.

I'm personally quite sensitive to these issues, but 30 hours in the quality of the game way overshadows it and it's never got to the point of unplayable, (and I'm playing Xbone).

esmittystud1013706d ago

Dark Souls on Xbox 360 B.C. on X1 has framerate issues. The game is so good I don't even care.

Just Cause 3 has issues we can't live with, Dark Souls 3.........I can live with the framrate issues, From Software makes up for it ten fold in this series.

iNathan3706d ago

Seems like a bug to me in the part than anything else, it is running smoothly and suddenly broke.

Der_Kommandant3706d ago

Nothing can't surpass those Blighttown drops.

Wallstreet373706d ago

lol it was part of the intended experience. Along with that %hit looking color palette in Blight Town they wanted the fps drops to immerse you and make you feel like all was lost lol hahaahaha

Der_Kommandant3706d ago

haha well i then i felt extremely and completely lost in Valley of Defilement in Demon's Souls.

Wallstreet373706d ago

DEr....

I hear you man but like a true Souls fan im sure you just kept moving forward.

JasonKCK3706d ago

So it's just like any other Dark Souls game.

PurpHerbison3706d ago

FROM software is so lucky I love their games. It really is unacceptable that they continue to release souls games with performance issues.

aquaticDonut3705d ago

I expect nothing less from Fromsoft. At least its on PC where I can just brute force it to get 60 FPS

FastRedPonyCar3705d ago

Article title should include *On Consoles* PC's are not having any issues getting a smooth 1080/60 even with modest hardware.

Trekster_Gamer3705d ago

I am sick and tired of day one patches to fix games that should have been fixed before release!!

65.00 for a game that is not complete is complete and utter bullcrap!