Not true. Just because there is now UWP that doesn't mean devs can't make games on pc using the standard .exe. they can keep making games on pc exactly the same way as they always have. There is no rule they HAVE to use uwp so if they strike a console exclusive deal then they can still dev for .exe and not use UWP. It's up to them.

IMO, MS actually will limit themselves greatly if they try to enforce UWP. If they make it mandatory for Windows programs in general or for games, devs will actually not adapt, and likely will revolt.

In the mean time, there is actually nothing that prevents cross platform stuff from being both UWP and on console. It's not really that much different than it is now where Windows/Xbox uses DX12 code, and everybody else uses OGL.

@ninsigma

Maybe you are confused but you do realize .exe games can be UWP games too right?

But theres other OSes now so that's irrelevant.

@Lennoxb63

Déjà vu. That is exactly what Microsoft said when they were taken to task on being a Monopoly.

Have you ever seen a breakdown of the desktop market? Basically Microsoft owns the lion's share of the desktop with 91.32%, then Apple (7.22$) and Linux (1.46%).

Source: https://www.netmarketshare....

At one stage Apple looked like it was going to go under and Microsoft panicked and actually brought shares in the company to keep it afloat. Look it up if you don't believe me.

Microsoft has to do a balancing act. Even though they would probably like to completely dominate the desktop there is always the chance they could become a monopoly which is something they don't want.

Now if you want a real monopoly for an operating system then look not further than Supercomputers where Linux takes 98.9% with Unix at 1.2%. The problem with that is Linux is not really owned by any company and is basically free.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

times have changed a fair bit since then

You are right that MS first party content isn't enough, but I think as Windows 10 grows onto more and more devices, the Windows store will be more important. It will also be more familiar. Overall it is a sound plan, and there are lots of benefits for developers and consumers alike.

I don't like it when a company gets a free pass and Valve and Sony is getting it right now. Past console generation it was Xbox.

However, I'm starting to see changes in consumer sentiment i.e. more positive articles are being written about MS moves and displeasure at competitors so whatever MS is doing is working. The trust is rebuilding one area at a time, but as you said it is a slowly growing fire at least in the short term.

I'm not seeing this change that you are.

Just speaking from a developer stand point, the lack of trust for MS is pretty pronounced. There is a ton of skepticism about their UWP and Windows Store intitiatives on the developer forums, and MS hasn't done much to really quell a lot of that that I can see.

What I see is that most people are holding onto their long fostered skepticism, and as a rule, apply that to anything MS, because MS does have a habit of saying one thing, and doing another, and it isn't uncommon for them to misrepresent their products to developers...although I can't recall them ever outright lying about one.

The users themselves(ie gamers), I don't see a big sudden love of MS for what they're doing. What I do see is a lot of people saying it will be just like GFWL, or that MS has some plan that will screw them over later. While most of this is likely just people hating with nothing to back up their assumption, it is again based on their own perceptions, and nothing MS has done has changed these perceptions, because MS just breeds skepticism in people.

I wouldn't say Sony and Valve get a free pass. When they do stupid stuff, they often get heavy criticism. But they don't really screw up that often, and their attitudes towards the consumers are generally much more approachable than MS...although MS has changed this bad habit of theirs in recent years(both in and out of gaming).

I'm sorry, I would love to think that MS has really turned it around, and people are starting to appreciate the good things they do, but I haven't seen it with enough fervor or influence to really be able to justify backing up that belief. I feel that some people, on gaming forums, are the only one's who really take MS at their word, and everyone else is just as distrustful or hateful as they've always been.

If you know where I can see discourse in plenty, and with actual merit which will show me otherwise, I encourage you to share it, but I do know some of the places I go, which involve actual professionals in the industry, are certainly not feeling it.

I would have to say that the building up of trust amongst PC gamers and developers is going to be something that takes a few years minimum. Look at how long it took MS to recover from the XB1 reveal as an example. I think that, based on how MS has turned around the XB1's image, it's likely that MS is on the road to earning that same level of trust from folks like yourself, Rain. The reality, however, is that no one knows for sure how well MS will listen to what PC gamers or developers are asking for right now. So we'll have to wait and see.

Yeah the HDR TV will work over HDMI. I'm using displayport myself but if your just using that connection you can just use a displayport to hdmi adapter since displayport carries audio just like HDMI.

I turned it off today, was relatively simple. Went to settings, gaming, clicked game mode on the side tab, then toggled it off

@sicksincesix

Right... but I find it still running when going through the task manager.

True, there can be enough problems to make one think it's not worth it. But overall since the ps360 days playing in HD or even 4k at 60 fps vs the muck of 720p under 30fps, non vsync with awful tearing it makes you figure out the pc. Then when you get steam sales over the years it's really nice. But there is a small percentage of pc horror stories that won't happen on console.