It's Sonys fault for pushing the indie game hype at all their events

I don't see this trend ending on psplus for a while

Video brings up some good points. I don't have a dislike for the subscription as of now but it's certainly not exciting or something I look forward to.

I saw through their indie push from the get-go with PS4. I knew their plan was to grab up random indies and use them to fluff their PS+ line-up on PS4. PS+ on PS3 is still worthy, and I subscribed a little before PS4 came out, just because it was such a good deal on PS3.

PS4 paywalled online behind PS+ because they weren't and still aren't confident in their PS+ strategy and line-up on PS4. It was a dirtbag move, and still is, and with all the talk of a possible PS4.5 and X1.5, I really feel like this is my last console gen and I'll probably be going the PC route after this.

Games are cheaper, way more of them(including console exclusives) make it to PC now, they have potential to look/perform much better and you get online for free on PC. There's no more benefits really to being on console.

Complacency

Only platform that PS Plus benefits me is Vita and Sony is intent on forgetting it exists.

I had been a subscriber to PS+ since it first launched on PS3, but I cancelled last week. I used to like it as a method to grab some decent games as part of the service every month, but the quality of those games has decreased over time. The good games are ones already available on PC for a cheap price, so the value has diminished. It now feels more like a barrier to play online than anything else.

I reinvested the money into subscribing to Humble Monthly instead.

PS4 is what went wrong. PS plus was great before PS4 came along and required plus. I'm not much of an online gamer and mainly buy plus for the games. I wish we could pay for the games and online separate so the quality of the games could go back to how it use to be.

I have been quite happy with PS+ so far. I buy all the games I want to play so it would very unlikely that Sony could include a retail title that I dont already own.

I love indie titles and while I still buy a decent amount of these titles there are plenty that I dont get too so its cool to get indies I have missed.

I had already bought Galak-Z when it launched but enjoyed BroForce last month. I have a huge backlog of Indie titles to play thanks to PS+, I think I will try Grow Home next.

sony is just being cheap simple as that

I guess all I have to add is I didn't renew my PS+ when it lapsed at the end of last year and I don't see myself renewing anytime soon.

Paid online is BS no matter who does it. Online services pay for themselves though sales of products and advertising.

PS+ this gen has been a joke compared to XBL Gold this gen and PS+ last gen. We get junky indies no one has even heard of while Xbox got games like Borderlands last month and this month Sunset Overdrive, Dead Space, and SR4. PS+ last gen was amazing with great games like Bioshock Infinite, LBPK, Hitman Absolution, Litte Big Planet 2, R&C All For One for free. Sony needs to step it up, not sure why fanboys are defending Sony, we are getting crap games. My XBL membership has been a much better investment than my PS+ membership.

There is nothing wrong with ps+, I'm not saying it's perfect as the games could be better but they could also be worse. This is just another case of jumping on the bandwagon.

One website writes something and you can be sure that a good hand full will follow the click train.

AC: Black Flag
Killzone SF
Infamous SS
Knack

These games are as old as the average Cod player so I see no reason they haven't come to ps plus now.

It added an extra platform,stretching the budget and became mandatory for MP, giving Sony less need to keep people happy.
I really do think Sony should drop one of the platforms, or at least lower it from 2 games each, to maybe 1 for Vita, 1 for PS3 and 1-2 "bigger" games for PS4, will definitely piss off a few, but so does offering (for the most part) good "smaller" games, so it's a lose lose either way, and I think cathering to the PS4 audience will makes less noise.

*edit : also Sony should put up their games more often, cost them nothing, will make some happy and could get them some extra DLC sales. Stuff like Shadow Fall, or much better TLoU:R would be great choices and give their MP community a nice little boost.

I never had PS+ until it was necessary for online play. So guess what I expect from it? Indeed, that I can play online.

The rest, the instant game collection and the discounts, is a bonus.

Article had some great points. PS plus games have went a bit downhill with just indies. It would be great if we got at least 3 AAA games during the year.

Nothing. Is still a good service. Just because xbox gold got one month with what they consider a good selection of games does not mean there is anything wrong with PSN.

imo the way i see it, There is nothing wrong with PS+ with maybe some minor implications, give or take.
PS+ is required for Online for most games except for F2P games or Games that are online Only like The Division or Destiny, PS+ isnt required to play it unless you go for PvP.

Now for what PS+ has to offer is online service, and Free games every month. By common sense, the games they give out every month may or may not be good, because of what people hope and expect to get. For which in this case, AAA games. But at the moment we're given Indie games from Indie Developers

And from this point on, I see that sure, Indie games arent AAA on how people classify it, but imo. There are Great Indie games that I feel that they have a lot more potential to put on the plate, than already large well established companies like RockStar, Ubisoft, and whoever.

With Large companies they too were some kind of Indie company before they became something bigger.

Anyways. Um. My point is, what Sony is trying to do, that I appreciate and admire, is giving the people a taste of Indie games and show the people that there are potential talented people, for instance i can't code, and I die to learn, and so were these talented people.

Sony is taking the risk, and giving developers a chance to show themselves that they too can become something great eventually with hard work.

And I'm sure other companies are doing similar things like Microsoft and whoever to appreciate indie developers.
Although we get Indie games every month, I would say, give it a shot before you throw it down the drain, Sony maybe giving these Indie games out for free full games.
And I must say I was unfortunate to say that March's month on BroForce, i was thinking that it be some next weird game, but then i play it at a friends house, and it turns out, the game is something else, it was completely fun.

Now what I also say is, No matter what kind of game it is Sony has to offer in PS+. Give it a shot, and then judge it. Judging before you play and looking at trailers only gives you a scratch of what it might be until you've tried it out for yourself.
And hey these indie games we're getting from Sony/MS are, how you take it, are an added bonus to the Online Service, and whatever PS+ is.

PS+ and XBL are what they are for what they are, and imo they're both great really.

^---- Boy thats a lot of rambling lol

At this point it is more like a Indie service, not that these games are bad. But I dont think alot of people are looking forward to those.

I Don't like the new sony,i want ps3 era sony, free multiplayer and incredible exclusives, i had an xbox 360 and i bought the ps3 just for the exclusives

Sony needs to step up and put some bigger games more often

Sony don't even bother now, that's the long and short of it.

Be it Sony or Microsoft, this is what happens when you're in first place. Complacency.

Indies that's what went wrong

I bought PS plus because I needed it for battlefront. I've never once even looked at the instant games because I have ZERO interest.

There is nothing bad about Sony's offering it just that MS are doing a better job it's just that simple.

What's Gone Wrong with PlayStation Plus? Shit games and the requirement to play online, in my honest opinion!

I think they answered their own question.

$1000 value for $50 = nothing wrong

Not sure what's going on with the Sony hate late, omg ps4k, omg PS plus lol

Indies, that's what happened...and paid online play.

It's not that it has pulled off the gas, it's just settled in for the long haul. Any service may offer extraordinary deals in the beginning to attract customers, but eventually it becomes counter productive. And with gamers you're usually activating the entitlement gene. Gamers seem to want more for nothing even more than the Republican party sometimes.

It isn't financially possible to keep that same pace without losing. Unless you change the way you get the games. One thing I would do is help during the development process promising titles for the right to use the game at a certain point after release.

I'd find quality games that didn't sell well and buy rights to use those temporarily maybe getting a percentage of the dlc sales to even things out. I'd use dlc for popular games instead of full games as sort of a season pass. Especially on my own titles. And I would hire a team that strictly develops arcade games for my service. Games only available through my service. Kind of an EA vault.

Creating in-house exclusives is probably the best value. I would also offer an optional game that is bought with a token you receive each month. Have a group of tiered games you can use the tokens on. A AAA title for four tokens. That will give people choice and incentive to be members.

A better question to ask would be what's gone right with PS + since the PS4 was released

The included (not free :P ) games have gone downhill since the PS4 was released

have both. At first has the ps4 then sold it and got an X1 to give it a try, was pretty cool at first then the big update came and i hate it, stuff froze on me ect...bought a ps4 and if it wasn't for netflix and those apps i wouldn't use non of the systems. Say what you want about WiiU OR NINTENDO but theres always something to throw on and play

This article is at the very least a year late, but I'm glad it finally happened.

Noting is wrong with PlayStation Plus in my opinion. I much rather play a new interesting game than a 2 year old title I could buy in the bargain bin for £3.

However I am bored of 2D platform and twin stick shooters. I want something else. Like Grow Home was a breath of fresh air for me.

Something is wrong when the firm with the strongest consoles insists on showering you with 8-bit titles.

I couldnt imagine owning a PS4 (wich i dont yet) without PS+ .... I think PS+ and gold are great value for all the stuff you get for less than the price of a single game . Even if thay were all indy type games thats 24 of them a year, and if you own a PS3 as well thats just cream on top IMO:

Sony usually delivers the best PS Plus games around the time of E3. We should be getting Knack and inFAMOUS: Second Son for free.

I'm in Japan, and when it started out in the Ps3 days the games were pretty poor. PS One classics and regurgitared Ps3 DL only games from years ago that you probably already had. I mainly signed up to use the online storage.

Now I have a ps4, ps3, and vita, and the amount of games you get is nuts. On top of that there are discounts, and a lot of the games are brand new so it is very difficult or not possible for you to own them already.

As for triple A games, I tend to buy a lot of them, so there's a high chance I'd already have it. I already had Killzone SF when it came out on Plus.

My current gripe is actually towards all those people that voted for Broforce over AAC. AAC is by far the better game. I went on and bought it anyway, at a 30% discount thanks to Plus.

Incidentally this month Japan got SF Alpha 2, PS One classic, which I've already spent more time playing during my commute and lunch breaks than Broforce.

Have I missed something this weekend? Is psplus dead or something? People still wanting full priced games monthly for 50 bucks a year? Ill just go with my second question because thats the most likely scenario.

Broforce was great. Bunch of moaners. Problem with AAA freebies? I buy the ones I really want. I'd rather discover a fun Indie game. Plus also gives you new Indies over old ( and often mega cheap ) AAA. Better value .

more diversity, not just indies

this was one of a few reasons i got my ps4 way too damn early now that i look at it... i didint want to miss out on the great ps + games.. which turned out to be pure indy games... then the delay with uncharted , and no talk of resistance or gow game

Damn, since when does Push Square make videos? Nice. That Sammy in the video is like the very opposite of I had imagined him from that gyaruo profile picture of his.

It's very simple guys, sony are the console kings right now so they don't need to try that hard with PS+, none of us want that but its the truth.

MS are behind and thus need to try harder and are doing so

if i knew sony's PS+ would be this crappy for this long i would have thought twice about buying a years sub since i rarely play online multiplayer.

i didn't get PS+ for endless indies, sorry but they aren't my thing, i just wanted older AAA games, we have gotten what? injustice which was out before the PS4 was even released, i can't think of anything else that became available that i wanted.

sony are becoming arrogant again.

As I'm sure someone else already stated, now that it's required for online play sony can now stop pretending about actually caring. Turns out they are just as greedy as MS.

Shame. Didn't really see this coming, but I'm hoping MS somehow finds their footing to keep sony in check. Seems like the only time any of these companies put actual value with something is when they are behind the 8 ball.

Oh no more doom and gloom, LOL. Its no surprise this spoiled self entitled generation of gamers complain about getting free stuff.

I remember BF3 coming to PS+ a while back. I believe BFBC2 as well, or at least on XBL. I wish, and hope BF4 will come to PS+. I can see BF Hardline if there was a BF since hardline should have just been a DLC part of BF4. If so, I can play that since I never bought it and only played the beta but BF4 will still get 99% of the playtime.

Killzone should come too. The traffic there is pretty dead. Releasing it on PS+ would be great imo.

If you're not playing Broforce you are missing one of the best co-op experiences out there today. Machete vs Alien? Cmon Son!

PS plus sales aren't that great to begin with unless you want to buy stuff early at a cheaper price, the 'cheapest' something will always be is when it's in the flash sale, and those are available to everyone.

PS4 is a good console, I can say better than ONE, and I'm pretty sure that at the end, Sony will be the winner of this generation console war. But hey, XBOX is catching up from that awful start, they fixed and improved lot of stuff, and we have to respect it... those who dont want to see it are just silly fanboys. It start to have several nice exclusive games, they improved the dashboard, and their GOLD service is nice, better than PLUS, lets just admit the obvious, guys.
Some Sony Fanboy, will be happy and find excuses even if their PS4 will punch em in the balls every time you turn it on.
"Hey it help me to be more focus on the game"
"Is something unique! Love it"
"Take this XBOX ONE, your console will never punch ya in the nuts" etc. etc.
I truly hate this attitude that most of Sony Kids have, always talk trash about XBOX and find excuses when Sony fail in something, for make em feel better about their console.
Console wars was never fair,and most of times, kinda dumb, but this is going way too far. We should just be happy for the good things, and be upset about the stuff that Sony and Microsoft F up. We are customers, after all, we shall improve the market. Think about it kids, instead of be blind.

PS+ was far better on the PS3, I feel that they've let things slip recently.

Some free DLC of AAA releases, and some free themes wouldn't hurt.

I'm giving Sony 3 months to react to GWG before coming to a conclusion.

it will improve when they drop support for the ps3.

They don't need to prove anything anymore so now they think it's okay to keep giving us indie games that nobody wants.

I don't really mind the free indie games but I do have to scratch my head as to why certain PS4 games haven't been made as part of the instant games collection yet. Launch window games like Killzone Shadowfall, Knack, Assassins Creed: Black Flag, Infamous Second Son & First Light, The Order 1886, etc. Virtually no one is buying these anymore. Why not include them in the instant games collection and get a few more people playing them?

Do gamer's ever stop moaning ?

If games are still selling well normally, then they have less of a reason to give those games away.
The games people aren't buying are indies, so they put indies up to increase interest for those titles.

The one thing people are ignoring is the launch date of PS+.
PS3 launched in 2006, PS+ launched in 2010 & didn't get big titles until it had been around for a while.
That's a 4 year gap for games to build up & the time of interest to pass.

The PS4 has been out for almost 3 years, so I don't know why people are expecting huge titles on PS+.

I would complain but these days I enjoy indie games more than the AAA titles.

It just couldn't last forever.

The superiority of PSN Plus is one of the reasons I bought a PS4 over xbx1. Now PSN Plus "free" games are mostly disappointing.

Live Gold Games are putting Plus to shame lately.