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Why Microsoft Should Pick Up Evolution Studios

ThisGenGaming says "So it makes me wonder if Microsoft should take a page out of Sony’s playbook and hire Evolution employees? So here I am writing my thoughts on why Microsoft should pick up Evolution Studios. Now, one of the biggest reasons as to why I think that Microsoft should start trying to hire employees from Evolution Studios is because they’re a strong background in racing games, which can really help the Forza series (not that it needs much help) and who knows? It might even help pave the way for an entirely new branch of games for Forza, much like how Forza Horizon has helped the franchise. It makes the most sense as to where those who worked for Evolution Studios would be working on given their history of racing games."

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Death3729d ago

I would rather see Evolution regain their independence and make the games they want to make on the platforms they choose. A deal with a large publisher like Activision or EA would be ideal if they could secure a deal similar to the one Bungie made. There is no need to be scooped by anyone.

crazychris41243729d ago (Edited 3729d ago )

bungie/activison deal is terrible for gamers and so would a evo/activison deal

Death3729d ago

Bungie is terrible for gamers. Their shortsightedness and greed are pretty apparent now, but that had nothing to do with the publishing agreement they made with Activision. Publishers are used to fund games for independent developers. The publisher makes that money back when the game is sold to retailers. As long as demand exceeds development costs, it's a win-win for everyone. The Activision-Bungie deal was an extreme example of the publisher/developer relationship. That's not to say Evo couldn't come up with a more realistic publisher deal.

UltraNova3729d ago (Edited 3729d ago )

@Death

Bungie was Bungie when they went to Activision for that deal, they had Halo on their CV as leverage and as things turned out they still got the stinky end of the stick. Imagine how would Evo fair on that table.

If they form a new studio they should steer clear of the trio from Hell (Activision, EA and Ubi).

ChuckTheIceMan3729d ago

Completely agree! Putting a dedicated release date on any game that is in year 1 or 2 of development is a recipe for disaster! Games should be finished when they are actually finished instead of being completely or even partially broken at launch. Or as in the case of Destiny having a great framework for a game but being completely devoid of content for a year.

darthv723729d ago (Edited 3729d ago )

Damn Death... I think Bungie is even regretting their deal with Activision to the point where they would rather go back to MS. lol

As for Evolution, they should go indie and make games they want to make. Publishers can approach them to release on whatever platform they choose but don't go through the hassle of being picked up again by a bigger corporation.

They need to stick up for themselves and be a strong 3rd party developer as we know they are a talented bunch.

Commando_Bro3729d ago (Edited 3729d ago )

Yes, they should.
Or any other 3rd party company.

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Stick893729d ago

"I would rather see Evolution regain their independence...A deal with a large publisher like Activision or EA would be ideal"

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RosweeSon3729d ago

Going with Activision or EA wouldn't give them independence, financial backing yes independence, hell No, ask Criterion who were constantly told to charge for their free DLC by EA, ex Rare Guys, free radical design? who made Timesplitters 1-2 and of course 3 which was published by... EA still a great game but you can see all over it where they've had their influence. If EA get involved they get involved. Microsoft would be wise to buy it up purely as they are lacking people making exciting games purely for them however Microsoft haven't got the best track record which brings me to Rare again... Yeah hopefully they'll have a good E3 but they've been left in the cupboards for years, let out every now and again to try and make something no one wants ie Kinect games when really they should have seen Yooka Laylee (Microsoft should have noticied this surely) and gone why haven't we made Banjo Kazooie3, nope. Can't wait for E3 from all the big 3 but feel Sony are gonna just continue this major assault there's a new game worth buying each week be it AAA, top end indies or ps2 classics and with PlayStation Now and VR selling well so in advance of even launching and Nintendo no doubt giving us something to go on for NX, Microsoft are gonna have to go Large to get me even interested it's all Sony/Nintendo at the moment, has been for me for last 2 years or so always got time for the great ones owned a 360 for 9 years after various repairs and repurchased consoles but it was great system but not interested in their stuff at the moment.
Don't go with EA ever.

RosweeSon3729d ago

They might as well join Konami? Ask Hideo ;)

jb2273729d ago

Fully agree...MS has two very talented teams making racers, I don't see why they would ever need a third, but beyond that, we should want devs to get wider fanbases where possible, not jump from one narrow situation to another.

I personally also think all third parties should stay third parties & solely work in multiplat capacities, to free up funds to make sure that MS & Sony's first party teams get the biggest scope & focus so they can create the masterpieces that define the identity of each brand. Consoles can't define themselves based off of work from studios that bounce around, in house is extremely important IMO.

A lot of people bad mouth the Activisions & EAs of the world & there is definitely some validity in that, but these publishers also find the time to fund some true classics among the big assembly line money makers. They may pull some shady stuff to grab sales, but gamer reception is equally important to keep them in business, so they need quality devs to crank out the inspired stuff while the others crank out the ones that generate the revenue to support the whole.

meche3343729d ago

Split the employees between Playground and Turn 10 and watch FM7 and Horizon 4 be great

jb2273729d ago

@meche

That's assuming they need the new injection of talent...those guys are already cranking out a new installment every other year & w/ the release of Forza 6 & it's positive reception, they seem to have their footing & they don't seem to need the help.

I'd personally rather seen the option of another new racing contender instead of more hands on games that were going to exist either way. If anything I think Ms could stand to switch to a 2 year cycle w/ annual updates on a mainline Forza franchise instead of even having 2 to begin with.

Elit3Nick3729d ago

A revived PGR would undoubtedly be the best outcome for them since Driveclub is very similar.

ScorpiusX3729d ago (Edited 3729d ago )

so i can Witness The Rebirth of Project Gotham Racing for Xbox one .

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annoyedgamer3729d ago

Activision? EA? Surely you jest...

creeping judas3729d ago

Look what happened to Bizarre Creations when they decided to go with play with Activision???

BEASELY3729d ago

I love ridiculously outlandish "NASA should pick them up," comments when studios shutdown. Just stop.

itBourne3729d ago

If MS picked them up they would force them to make Halo Kart Racing then can them lol.

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itBourne3729d ago (Edited 3729d ago )

Ensemble...? lol, an illustrious rts company, hey lets buy you and force you to make Halo Wars, oh game went gold, your studio is canned..

Rare? https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Yeh go make some more kinect games Rare.

Lionhead maybe.... lol

Bungie wanted to get the hell out, so they changed ODST into a full game just to help full fill their contract to get away from MS.

I mean can MS please kill a few more prestigious studios. Yeh sounds like a good fit, maybe they can make a motorstorm kinect racing.

darthv723729d ago

Okay, so for your examples from MS I give you a couple from Sony.

Studio Liverpool: Wipeout series
Zipper Interactive: Socom series

business is business and studios close because of decisions made regardless of if we like them or not. As for a halo kart racer... MS already has a team that could do that so there is no proof to your FUD bourne.

ONESHOTV23729d ago

no that's a bad idea wouldn't you want them to go to where the money is where they can be funded to create another good AAA game like MotorStorm: Pacific Rift or are you just a fanboy.

xfiles20993729d ago

I have news for you but most of the guys at Evolution are going to be hired to work on GT they are not going anywhere. Sony has two GT games they are working on they need all the help they can get.

otherZinc3729d ago (Edited 3729d ago )

No. No. No!

M$ doesn't need to hire a mediocre Evolution Studios Staff member. Not one!

Why didn't Sony move Evolution Members over to Polyphony Digital to assist with GT7?

I'll tell you why... Evolution Studios is terrible! MotorStorm was awful & Drive Club was terrible! Sony gave Evolution Studios years to make a good Racing Game, they couldn't do it. If Evolution could've made 1 good game, they'd still be employed by Sony.

Evolution should go to Indie Game development.

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WrestlingNewsFan3729d ago

I guess a meeting won't hurt? Similar to Sony/Lionhead.

PhoenixUp3729d ago

Why Microsoft of all publishers? Would this supposed retaliation be done because Sony set up an event for the ex-Lionhead devs? Let's not forget Epic had a similar event and may do the same for Evolution, along with other possible third party publishers.

jb2273729d ago

Yup...thisgengaming has gotten a bit better but I never saw an equivalent article proposing for Sony to buy Lionhead outright.

Sometimes the best thing that can happen for a studio is being broken down to be built back up in multiple new permutations, not just thrown somewhere else to crank out the same stuff they have been. Better to keep the medium on its toes than to keep churning out the same styles of game ad nauseum.

Kiwi663729d ago

Why shouldn't they talk to MS if contacted by them as they no longer work for Sony so they should be able to work with whoever they choose to

nitus103729d ago

Some people have non-disclosure agreements (NDA) and may find it difficult to legally work for another firm unless their new job does not conflict with the NDA terms.

Tobsesan3729d ago

Think it is because ms has 2 very talented racing teams and they want them to work on it. But they already put out the best racers every year.

Sonyslave33729d ago

Well I guess they can help Play Ground studio with the next Horizon racing game.

Dragonking0073729d ago

Im sure the team behind that game is in good hands doubt theyll need help

Automatic793729d ago

MS has Turn 10 and Playground games the only reason I could see MS hire evolution studios is to bring back Project Gotham Racing.

ShadowKnight3729d ago (Edited 3729d ago )

That probably wouldn't be a bad idea. PGR was a great game.

rainslacker3729d ago

I could see MS picking up some of Evolutions staff for Turn 10 or Playground, but can't see them doing a whole new game with the entire staff.

Things really don't often work out like that either way.

PGR actually would be pretty cool though.

Thisgengaming3729d ago

That's actually a really good idea. I wouldn't mind that.

porkChop3729d ago

Evolution Studios would be the perfect fit for PGR actually.

Death3729d ago

That would be awesome. Bizarre Creations was the studio responsible for PGR, but they stopped making PGR in 2008 when Activision acquired them. Microsoft owns the rights to PGR and was rumored to be looking for a studio to continue the series back in 2010. Bizarre Creations which handled it was located in Liverpool England before Activision dissolved the studio in 2011. Activision owns the rights to the name Bizzare Creations and Sony own the name Evolution Studios and Driveclub. Bizzare Evolution anyone? http://www.develop-online.n...

Paytaa3729d ago

I loved PGR1 and PGR2. Two of my all time favorites on the original Xbox.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio39d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing39d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9239d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit39d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing39d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9239d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay41d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn242d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers42d ago (Edited 42d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn241d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown41d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay41d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay41d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac41d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger41d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300041d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde41d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde41d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7543d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_40d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.