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AMAA N4G Admin Christopher [N4G Forums]

Christopher writes: "Hello N4G!

So, I've been wanting to do this for a while but didn't know how I'd do it. Since the beta site is still in beta and bubbles are still a thing (yes, bubbles will go away when the beta site becomes the main site), I have to rely on the forums. And, I figured I'd do it now since there was a Blog that I had to fail for one reason, but otherwise brought up a lot of issues/concerns people may have with the site and would like answers to.

So, I've opened a thread on the forums where you can ask me questions. Yes, I know, it involves signing up for an account there, but for the time being I've removed our usual registration process where I approve each account so you can register freely to ask questions. Please note that there are some ground rules there for this AMA.

So, if you have a question you want answered or just want to see some answers to other people's questions, please check out the thread.

Thank you!"

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TheColbertinator3641d ago

Forums? Only trolls and WildArmed live there :P

Maddens Raiders3641d ago

Forums?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

By the way please don't go to the stupid Beta it's fine the way it is, but who am I? Bye.

UltimateMaster3640d ago

Yeah, it's perfect the way it is. We don't really need to change it.

naruga3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

i liked the bubble system ..it gave some moderator-like jurisdictions to all users...if someone has not bad aims and is not the mastermind of a team to purposely abuse or harass someone, it is a fair system generally....to the new site they could add smthing analogous except agree/disagree system, that as a user you can a give an mini medal (which will be attached to the comment) for smthing insightful or a mini negative "medal" for smhting extremely negative or disagreeable

OB1Biker3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

It's not a fair system at all. I can't count how many times people lose bubbles for ridiculous reasons while it favours clans giving bubbles for just siding with one or the other side of the so called console war in a given post
@naruga
Yea about what you edited I really think agree / disagree is the thing they should keep and even enhanced actually. I think it's an easy way to express oneself as many don't have time to comment and reply on and on. It would be interesting to be able to see who agrees and who disagree and make it clear it actually a means of expression and not a way to dismiss another member.

naruga3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

@OB1Biker i know what you r saying but read the edited comment to comprehend better what i mean ...

ninsigma3641d ago

I would rather see a hybrid system. Remove the bubbles for everyone but based on moderator judgement, if someone keeps willingly troll comments sections for the sake of starting a flame war, then apply the bubble system to them, the same way it works now. Only way that would work is by moderator judgement and not user decided.

As someone who doesn't come on here to troll and generally just wants to discuss the things about gaming, I don't like having my voice limited to a finite number of bubbles. I also don't write extreme comments to start arguments in which case I generally don't get bubbled up. So I'm stuck with what I have.

For my own commenting I'm glad about the bubbles being removed but I am also aware that opens a large problem with trolls. Stronger ban hammer is what's needed.

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naruga3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

^^to be honest i dont accept the term troll (there is no official academic term as troll) ..you can call some opinions edgy, humorous , sarcastic, flame-starters call them whatever you want but after the invention of the obnoxious term of troll, now you cant have a proper comment with humor ,sarcasm or negative critic awithout being immediately flagged as trolling ...the "medal" system i said before which will resemble the bubble system for extreme opinions (which must also be heard) and will be as pointer for moderators is a lot fairer and democratic imo

rainslacker3641d ago

The bubble system is mostly good in theory, but in practice it just doesn't work. Way too much politics involved, and it can allow different segments of the community to become to prevalent while drowning out the smaller segments.

Worst part about it is when you finally get into a good discussion after having 100's of boring comments, it ends because most people use their bubbles making those one off replies to people where 99% of the time there are no replies anyways.

Some sort of up/down vote system would be good to keep a bubble like system, where people can speak indefinitely so long as they don't troll, but that would probably be a pain to moderate, since the mods would have to make the final verdict to make it actually equitable.

As it is, it just means the mods can moderate individual users, with hopefully users being able to report potentially trolling comments....which I feel at times is abused with the bubble system.

There's no real way to have completely unlimited discussion(if people even wanted to bother with it before moving onto the next big topic around here) without strong moderation, and moderation seems to be a dirty word nowadays that people equate to censorship...which it isn't if it's done fairly and properly.

antz11043641d ago

Lol no it wasn't, it showed how terribly biased this site can be either way. Bubble system did more harm then good.

showtimefolks3641d ago

the bubble system is broken and needs to go away. most times people who are Neutral lose bubbles while siding with one console or fanbase gets your more bubbles

thekhurg3641d ago

The bubble system can be abused too easily. People can lose them just because a group of people disagree with whatever they have to say.

Yes, they help keep pretty much all of the trolls in check, but they also punish people for having an opinion that differs from a larger group.

Hopefully moderation on the forums will be a lot tighter and the troll accounts will simply be closed.

BEASELY3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

I had 10 bubble 2 weeks ago. I posted 2 comments in one of those warzone articles where people seemingly get their comments removed for little to no reason, and am now down to 5 bubbles.

I did nothing wrong at all.

This system doesn't make sense. I'm not sure if I was mistaken as another user, but my comments were super neutral and weren't attacking anybody.

kreate3641d ago

one day i woke up and went from 10 bubbles to 6 bubbles.. i dont even think i made any comments during that time. what's up with that? this was like 5 days ago or so.

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ninsigma3640d ago

@create and kobra
Think that happened to a lot of people. When there was lots of work being done on the site everyone got bumped up to 10 then anyone who originally had 6 or below was brought back down to 6.

kreate3639d ago (Edited 3639d ago )

"Think that happened to a lot of people. When there was lots of work being done on the site everyone got bumped up to 10 then anyone who originally had 6 or below was brought back down to 6"

oh ic. yea i had 6 bubbles before than got bumped to 10. than went back to 6. and now im back to 10. and lets stop there plz.

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AuToFiRE3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

That hurts lol

TheColbertinator3641d ago

Canadians don't have feelings,Auto

AuToFiRE3641d ago

@Col

We have feelings, we just get them checked out for free.

TheColbertinator3641d ago

@Autofire

Nothing is free. You still pay taxes,chief. Even if you people live in igloos and go ice fishing for sustenance.

AuToFiRE3641d ago

@Col

More free than yours, plus basic income, free post secondary, legal prostitution and hot hoes. Canadia is paradise

TheColbertinator3640d ago

@AutoFire

I'm fine in a country where I don't club baby seals for sport,thanks.

AuToFiRE3637d ago

@Col

Those baby seals want to party too, you know.

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Fin_The_Human3641d ago

Beta site is OK but only if your on tablet but not so great on phones since the screen is small...the old site accommodates for phones better.

Also the older site looks more professional and sits better when you're at work and someone walks across your PC... Looks like you are researching something instead of looking at the big screens of the article.

You guys should have like a work mode where it only shows the heading of the article and no pictures.

Christopher3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

On the beta site home page you can modify how it looks.

To the left of the "All Stories" drop down right below the header you will see three icons.

The first one puts it in full grid mode. Probably not something you want.

The second one puts it in the default view mode. More like what we have on the old site currently.

The third one, the downward arrow icons, will pop out a panel that allows you to modify it more. You might be interested in the 'Links' view option, which shrinks all images and shows mostly text on the page.

These viewing settings are currently stored in a cookie on your PC but eventually the plan is for them to be saved by account, so they will show as you want wherever you login.

@below: You should be able to like any other Web site.

DefenderOfDoom23641d ago

So i am guessing you can log into the N4g beta site using my PS4?

nX3641d ago (Edited 3641d ago )

I like the link view, it's really clean and perfect for situations at work or with slow internet (in a subway for example).
I hope you can optimize it even further though as it's still a bit "choppy". My suggestion would be to remove all these Techspy articles at the bottom for this view, or at least their images.

rainslacker3641d ago

I actually prefer the old site layout. I find it easier to read and follow threads. I wouldn't mind some of the sort functions for comments on the old style site, and maybe some of the ways it gets stories up, but the new site has some issues which I feel need to be addressed...like being able to jump to your comment in an article from the comments tab in one's profile...since if it's in one of the collapsed sections of the replies, it won't do that.

That being said, I'll have to try out the layouts tab. The new layout has kept me mostly off the new site. Thanks Chris.:)

Fin_The_Human3641d ago

Thanks Chris...the Link layout work perfect.

Also you guys should consider bringing back open zone...the bubble system here is flawed if your an XBox fan.

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TheCatsMeow3641d ago

Oh that's yeah cool beans nice

nix3641d ago

I hope mobile site of n4g doesn't change. It's perfect right now. I use it 85% of the time.

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