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The Xbox Isn’t Going Anywhere

It seems that every time Microsoft appears in the news hundreds of social media junkies declare that Microsoft is getting ready to abandon console gaming (a claim that has been happening for at least five years now with no end in sight). While the fear mongers post their click bait articles and YouTube videos, a simple perusal of the facts show us that Microsoft is going to be in the game for a very long time.

Abash3726d ago (Edited 3726d ago )

At least 5 years? Who was saying MS was abandoning the Xbox brand when it was doing fantastically in 2011 and 2012 with the 360?

AngelicIceDiamond3725d ago

@Bash With little no 1st party innovation at that time.

jstark3725d ago

well honestly the only console maker with innovative 1st party games was nintendo last gen

AngelicIceDiamond3725d ago

@Jstark The PS3 last gen had allot of 1st party innovation. Nintendo had innovation that ultimately fell flat afterwords.

lastking953725d ago

Could you name those titles?

jstark3725d ago

@AngelicIceDiamond
well first what do you mean by innovation? im assuming you mean gameplay wise which really for the most part isn't on the sony side

4Sh0w3725d ago (Edited 3725d ago )

lol, of course Xbox isn't going anywhere, more importantly here is why:

Now as a gamer and a Xbox fan its no surprise I already knew Xbox wasn't going anywhere After investing billions in gaming at the start of this gen, After pushing a portfolio of huge AAA games instead of more poorly received Kinect games, After consistently making changes at the request of gamers, After having a great E3 that showcased a huge lineup of games to come, After investing a lot of money and time into making the Xbox One backwards compatible, After delivering significant updates that make the X1 a much better media device for the living room, After releasing Windows 10 which is now heavily crossing over to Xbox One with plans in the works for more future crossover with Windows apps, After hearing several times now from the CEO Satya Nadella himself that Xbox One is a big part of Microsofts future, After reports like this that in FACT demonstrate GAMING is the 2nd largest revenue source and Finally with a great lineup of heavily anticipated games QB, Gears4, Crackdown3, Recore, Scalebound, Sea of Thieves, tons of indies and more games to announce at E3 its clear the future of Xbox One is bright. Why in the hell would they invest ALL that just this gen only to give up on Xbox, hell I could easily make the case that what they've done so far bodes well for the next Xbox.

Now make no mistake its also no coincidence that you can always find the same naysayers, no matter how many new accounts they have following Xbox news and are always in a big hurry to forecast the death of Xbox after any hint of negative Microsoft news. Glad I neither have the time or inclination to follow Sony so aggressively, in fact ps4 is great just not my first choice of platform.

Point is if a few studio closures or bad news from time to time meant the death of a entire gaming brand BOTH Xbox and PlayStation, hell maybe even Nintendo would have been dead a long time ago. Haters will never understand this, Gamers who really understand how this industry trends over the past 25 or so years know this....while I feel for ANY studios/devs who lose their jobs btw most usually get new employment soon afterward because there's always a shortage of this kind of talent, but I digress, one look at the history of most of those who were foreshadowing Microsoft was in trouble after closure of mostly studio's who were heavily connected to Kinect games were just concern trolling as usual.

freshslicepizza3725d ago

there are those who are legitimately concerned about the xbox brand and then there are those who want the xbox brand to go away. filter the latter out and then real conversations can begin about what may or may not happen.

TFJWM3725d ago

Xbox brand might not be done but the Xbox One is when you can get 500GB Xbox One Gears of War: Ultimate Edition Console Bundle (White) + Grand Theft Auto V Game + Extra controller (Wired) + 8.9" Nextbook Flexx Touchscreen Tablet for $349.

It is the end times...

jwillj2k43725d ago

What are you guys talking about.. Ms xbox division spent 2 billion on Minecraft alone. Of course they have billions to spend in investments, when it makes sen$e. The problem is their using their traditional business model on an industry that rewards the opposite. Ms has a long history of dumping products after a certain amount of time across the board. Server-side technology, software technology, Operating systems (home and server). This is what they do. Its just in the games industry its shunned upon to talk about these things out in the open. People feel that they're been shafted, and rightfully so.

DarXyde3725d ago

Jstark,

Nintendo did indeed have very innovative first party titles, but I believe you're forgetting about LittleBigPlanet, Puppeteer, and the Kinect titles to name a few.

Griever3725d ago (Edited 3725d ago )

It is really surprising to see gaming bringing in a significant portion of MS revenue even though it is generally believed that it forms only a small part. However, one has to see that it also includes revenue from mobile gaming as well as Minecraft. Furthermore, revenue does not means profit. Once you substract teh costs from teh revenue you get the profit or loss. However, if Xbox forms a significant portion of profit generated from gaming then it is definitely not going anywhere.

Kingthrash3603725d ago

If it's not going anywhere...then where is it going?
What is a console with no exclusive games?
Who wants a console where ALL....I repeat All its games are better somewhere else?
What games are coming?
What is a console with no games?
Like it or not, xbox one is in a very bad place....a hole that ot dug itself.
I'm not saying it's dead or not going anywhere, but honesty where is it heading?

VforVideogames3725d ago

I wonder how Sony would treat us if Xbox dies.

4Sh0w3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

Kingthrash360
"What is a console with no exclusive games? 
Who wants a console where ALL....I repeat All its games are better somewhere else?"

lol Are you serious?....1st correction its not ALL exclusive games, those are your words while Microsoft has repeatedly said there will be more sharing but not all games will go to pc but even if what you are saying was true I doubt it would matter much because consoles are not direct competitors to pc while this may not equal 1st place in hardware sales it increases the brand recognition and drives profits for their overall business. I mean seriously last gen 360 shared alot of games with pc, many X1 launch games are on pc, lol who at this point buys a Xbox under the delusion that most games won't come to pc given Microsofts history??? No X1 sells to the adults who don't care about bragging rights= they want to play the game &they are not in the market for a gaming pc.

Plus Xbox has done very well with X1/PC releases in fact the ladt Xbox One/PC game I can think of that was hyped to high heavens was Titanfall= tons of ps supporters on this very site were touting how they would play it on PC, I mean seriously every other comment was "I'll just get it on pc", yet X1 at the time with half the sales it has now delivered a resounding 6 to 1 sales advantage for Titanfall, now maybe everyone on n4g did get it on pc but fact is X1 sales is what drove Titanfall success, thats not even counting the 360 version which also trounced pc sales at about 4 to 1, even now Titanfall has an about 8 to 1 sales advantage on X1 compared to its pc counterpart. WHY is that?....because alot of people, nah in fact the overwhelming majority of people rather just play it on console with their friends= to answer your question the hardcore Xbox fans, the console lovers, the casual gamers WILL buy an Xbox to play exclusives paid for/developed by Microsoft, thats who.

Kingthrash3603724d ago

4 show
How, in anyway does this help sell xboxine

starchild3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

@Kingthrash360

That's a terribly faulty argument and it really needs to stop being parroted around N4G and other game sites.

You say the XB1 has no exclusives, but it does have exclusives relative to other consoles, which is where it most matters. The XB1 does not directly compete with the PC, its main competition comes from the other consoles --the PS4 in particular, since Nintendo has largely carved out their own niche.

The overwhelmingly majority of console-oriented gamers do not care if a game is available on the PC too. There are countless multiplatform games with superior versions available on the PC, yet those games still sell well on both the PS4 and XB1.

Another example is the fact that many of the 360's exclusives were available on the PC last generation but those games continued to sell well on the 360, and the console itself competed very well with the PS3 in sales.

Sony themselves recognize the value of console exclusives. They make exclusivity deals for games like Street Fighter V, No Man's Sky and Hellblade, while still allowing those games to release on the PC as well. Obviously they think these games will help them against their competitors. They certainly don't have the attitude of some of their followers. It's not like they're saying "well, crap, those games are available on the PC...there's not any point to even have them on our PS4, since everyone is just going to buy the superior PC versions".

Moreover, if the XB1 is damned because its games "are better somewhere else", wouldn't that largely apply to the PS4 as well? Sure, the PS4 might limp along with some decent sales of its handful of exclusives, but we would expect to see sales of multiplats (which comprise the vast majority of games on the PS4) to wither away to nothing. And why be excited about PSVR when a superior, more flexible and more open VR will be available on PC?

But none of that will come to pass. Clearly people will continue to buy lots of multiplats on the PS4, millions will be excited to get their hands on PSVR, and the XB1 will continue to appeal to the demographic it has always appealed to. I see no signs of Xbox consoles going away anytime in the foreseeable future, much as some on this site might wish it.

4Sh0w3724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

@Kingthrash360

huh?....I just explained it to you, starchild also gave a great explanation, lol do you have a reasonable reply why this analysis is wrong or are just sticking your head in the sand refusing to believe logic based on what's already evident= Xbox/PC exclusives worked great for 360, X1 although not outselling ps4 is doing well, there are no signs that X1 software sales are significantly affected by pc sales, in fact the opposite is true because every time tons of gamers bypass the super duper pc version and buy the lionshare on X1, despite a much smaller fanbase, Microsoft is supporting pc MORE than before, benefits are crossbuy games, more features like cross play with pc gamers & increased brand recognition (in the future some pc gamers may get an Xbox to play other Xbox games NOT on pc and the next QB). All this and the fact that these games are not on ps4 means folks will continue to buy X1's as it's the ONLY console option in either scenario to play exclusives paid for/developed by Microsoft.

Really what's so hard to understand?

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XanderZane3725d ago

A lot of fanboys think the XB1 is on it's way out because of exclusives coming out on Microsoft's other platform (PC). Also there have been closures of Lionhead Studios and several other smaller Indie studios. Still, even with these things the XBox One and it's brand isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Phil already said there would be another XBox. Microsoft still has billions to spend on new studios. Phil said there would be exclusives that will be for XB1 only in the future and new games for PC as well. So I wouldn't listen to all the negative fanboy drivel about XBox going away.

hells_supernova3725d ago

Microsoft doe not have billions to spend on gaming studios.

Before you hit disagree Microsoft has share holders those shareholders want a return on investment and an easy return not a risky one.

They will not let the Xbox brand get Billions for new studios.

Just because the company as a whole is incredibly wealthy it does not mean they are going to put all of that on the Xbox that would be a terrible business decision.

KiwiViper853725d ago

@hells_supernova

Didn't Microsoft buy Mojang for 2.5b last year?

Your whole comment is invalid...

XanderZane3725d ago

@KiwiViper85

I was going to say that, but you beat me to it. Microsoft definitely has billions to spend on new studios or acquiring existing studios. The old go out and the new come it. It's been like this for many years with Sony & Nintendo as well.

GrubsterBeater3725d ago

I swear you people don't get it..

MS money does not equal XBox money.

XBox division is alloted a certain amount to spend, they don't have an unlimited pool of money to tap into.

Their division is actually getting less money to spend for XBox due to not so great sales.

BitbyDeath3725d ago

@kiwiviper,

That was MS who bought Mojang, Xbox was not involved.
It was bought to inject more life in the mobile arm.

miyamoto3725d ago

"The Xbox Isn’t Going Anywhere" Yes because they are trapped between a rock called the PS4 and a hard place called PC gamers.

yomfweeee3725d ago

Kiwi MS spending 2.5 billion on Minecraft doesn't have anything to do with Xbox really.

Minecraft is a PC first experience. It is the most marketed franchise in all of gaming. Clothing and toys like no other.

Minecraftvs success (present or future) does not rely on Xbox.

aceitman3724d ago

Ms spent billions on there cloud which is used for everything not just gaming xbox may not go anywhere cuz they will use xbox live for pc and phone games but everyone is missing the key here , is xbox consoles going to dissappear, the answer is yes , those that say ms has spent billions on gaming, yes but they lost more billions then there taking in , why cuz of xbox console giving away so many free games , controllers at 299$ and soon to be 250$ all that is at a lost and now sales are down yoy, they lost the holiday against ps4 with there biggest game line up in xbox history and closed 13 studios last week xbox the console will disappear, and xbox brand will live through windows pc and phones and tablets .open ur eyes the moves are happening

XanderZane3724d ago

@aceitman
XBox console isn't going anywhere. Phil and other Execs have stated there will be another XBox.

http://www.techtimes.com/ar...

@yomfweeee
Minecraft (Majong) is part of the gaming division and so is XBox. Not sure how you can say it's not part of their Gaming and Entertainment Division. It's a gaming studio they purchased and their games will end up on XBox One or other XBox consoles in the future. You say they don't have billions to spend on gaming studios, yet that's what they purchased for $2.5 billion. lol!!

yomfweeee3721d ago

I never said Minecraft doesn't having anything to do with their Gaming and Entertainment division.

I said it doesn't anything to do with Xbox really. By that I mean that Minecraft is worth the money whether or not it succeeds on X1.

XanderZane3721d ago

@yomfweeeep
Well future Minecraft games will still end up on XB1. So yes, it has something to do with it. It just proves Microsoft is willing to spend billions on game studios to make games for PC and XB1. That's my point.

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WowSoChill3725d ago (Edited 3725d ago )

Nintendo has less money than Microsoft, had a worse selling console with the WiiU than Microsoft, and is STILL making another Console, based on this comparison i can easily see Microsoft sticking around the Console space for a while!

conanlifts3725d ago (Edited 3725d ago )

Not a great comparison though as nintendo's core business is gaming. But yes i do think ms will be sticking with gaming for a while.

Mulando3725d ago

That's correct. MS ist still making money with xbox, and while this is like it is they won't abandon it.
Xbox is doing well. Yes PS4 is doing even better, but that doesn't mean that the other console market isn't healthy.
Also Nintendo is making money with their own IPs. Not as much as they hoped and they invested a bit too much but if they can reduce hardware costs with their next console it might be healthy even if they only sell as much as WiiUs sold.

RosweeSon3725d ago

Nintendo have been in business for 125+ years no company is gonna go bust over night unless they have major major commercial flops....they haven't, sure Wii Us only barely cleared 10 million that's pretty much all full price tho, the attach rates for the games are understandably very high due to the quality of the titles, that's before you factor in any of the completely separate Amiibo sales think they sold a couple of them, oh and then there's 3ds family, Pokemon, Mario, Zelda... Nintendo are where they are for good reasons they always innovate and try and be original not just follow the crowd like a sheep. People just copy them time and time again.

BG115793725d ago

Nintendo is not doing that well right now. Amiibos and the 3ds can only save them for so long from the disaster that was the WiiU sales. That is why they are releasing a new console this year.
They are really putting an effort on the new console. If this latest tanks, it would be very very perilous for Nintendo. Nintendo's economical health us not that great right now.
But you know, it's when a company is on their lowest that the produce their best products.

mcstorm3725d ago

@BG11579 could the same not be said for Sony. The only thing selling well for them is the PS4. The PSV, TV, Phones and more are all having low sales. At the end of the day each company always has one product that outsells another.

Yes the PS4 is selling amazing but people forget the PS3 did not sell that well at the start of last gen. You can say yes but that was only because of XYZ but its a fact and it also sold way lower than the PS2.

Now the xbox box one is selling less than the PS4 again people can say for XYZ but it is selling better than the 360 was in the same time.

People seem to think just because a product dose not sell as well as the market leader its a flop or will be dropped. At the end of the day Sony is making its money off the PS4 and the xbox division is also making its money off the xbox to. The reason why the xbox brand looks like it dose not make as much money as it dose for Microsoft is it is bundled under the Surface and phone division to which have been trying to kick-start Microsoft mobile/tablet division and the surface now has a hold on the market and they are trying to build the mobile division now to.

DarXyde3725d ago

But does Microsoft's GAMING division have more money that Nintendo?

They're not going to throw the weight of the company behind Xbox if it's not doing as well as they'd like.

Fortunately, Microsoft is doing well in the console space so that's not necessary a scenario to entertain.

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ThyMasterDebater3725d ago

This article title is completely correct. The Xbox isn't going anywhere as sales have shown.

RosweeSon3725d ago

Slow sales? Sat on shelves mainly. Shop shelves.

Azzanation3725d ago

@Abash
Were you gaming back then? Everyone was talking about Xbox becoming a PC App. I remember it 5 years ago. nothing has changed since.

WiiU-Dude3725d ago

Here's a point I wrote to the report that PS4 outsold the XB1, however, I believe it fits here equally if not almost more. Let's hope Xbox as a system is not going anywhere!

Congratulations PS4. I own both, as well as Wii U and older systems, but since it seems most see the battle as only XB1 vs PS4 I will only comment as if those 2 are the only systems to exist.
Now having said my congratulations, I want to say keep fighting XB1!! I love you even a bit more...though with Ratchet coming soon...ugh - LOL. I stil think you are an excellent system. I appreciate the games you bring (talking console here i.e., leaving PCout of this) that can't be found on PS4 or Nintendo. I hope you keep on fighting! I, for one, don't want to see you fail. You keep things interesting. You help push your competitors from your very existence. You've made mistakes galore, but you seem willing to learn from those mistakes. You've basically jettisoned the Kinect and focused more on games. Sony and fans certainly forced that revelation, but message received. Your Kinect turned out to be a novelty, but that novelty, along with the Wii, made the industry behemoth try with Playstation Move...it died faster than the Kinect. XB1 Kinect had/has some truly neat ideas -albeit more for use than for games, but hey you attempted innovation. Some still very much love those Kinect functions on their XB1. Now Sony is busy with Morpheus and you are attempting a slightly different angle in Hololens, here's hoping for more unique cool experiences.
You see at the end of the day, a coupl things need to be realized. One, competition is VERY good. It breeds all these new ideas in terms of experiences video games bring. And two, software. We want great games. We like innovative games. We like new experiences from either new franchises/IPs or in the evolution with new iterations from our beloved established franchises.
Congratulations Sony PS4. You are clearly the deserved leader in console sales. But thank you Xbox One too. Please keep working hard and finding your own path and giving Sony and the PS4 a reason to never become complacent.
I love Nintendo. I love Xbox. I love Playstation. Being 44 and a video game lover for over 30 years, I am grateful for all those hardware makers from the past that help define where we are today. And I thank the 3 companies who carry the torch today. You all continue to makes this video game universe vibrant and full of wonder!! Thank you.

awi59513724d ago

Everyone on this pro sony site lol. I heard it all the time microsoft is finished. I got tired of these kids fighting thats why i sold all my consoles and went back to pc the good old days playing counter strike, unreal tournament, and battlefield 1942 with some half-life 2 death match on the side.

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Gazondaily3726d ago (Edited 3726d ago )

Of course it isn't going anywhere. The Xbox brand is expanding beyond the console space and whilst the exclusivity element of the console takes a hit, the brand will serve to benefit from it.

Console wars will mean that you will inevitably enthuse about it going down under because...well...trolls and fanboys.

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ThyMasterDebater3725d ago

Didn't they just take an 8 studio hit in one day? How are the sales on the Xbox One? Losing exclusives recently? Clearly all great signs.. Nothing to see here.

christocolus3726d ago (Edited 3726d ago )

Interesting article

“The single largest revenue driver for Microsoft last
quarter was their cloud services business. The next
highest source of the company’s revenue was gaming.
You read that right. The second largest source of
revenue for Microsoft last quarter came from gaming”

Nice. Didn't know this, atleast this should encourage Nadella/Phil Spencer to do better next gen. I doubt MS will repeat the same mistakes with the next Xbox.

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meche3343725d ago

Sometimes they sale software numbers in line with ps4. Not often but sometimes

travestyj3725d ago

Maybe in the U.S. but not any other major gaming market.

awi59513724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

@meche334

To bad the us is bigger than 13 markets combined just look at the movie box office. Its US, china, and everywhere else. You may sale 3 mill in the UK not even close to the US numbers and the rest of Europe the numbers drop off fast.

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rainslacker3725d ago

I read your quote and wondered how they came to that conclusion because gaming and devices is a relatively small part of their overall business. But then I saw they broke down the other divisions, to take the parts of the whole to extrapolate a conclusion.

It is interesting though, because MS doesn't break it down in such a way in their reports, so it's nice to see that the gaming stuff actually is a substantial part of the revenue on it's own.

Overload3725d ago

Read this.

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

Like I said below, its impossible to know how Xbox is doing within 'gaming' in Microsoft.

hells_supernova3725d ago

Revenue does not equal PROFIT huge difference there. However I would like Microsoft to continue in the console and gaming space.

awi59513724d ago (Edited 3724d ago )

@Overload

You dont need too know the numbers, microsoft said years ago it was making 500+ million on xbox live a year why do you think PS4 is pay to play online now.

Overload3725d ago (Edited 3725d ago )

Unfortunately, you'll never know how much of that has to do with the Xbox division. Microsoft has Android patents and all other sorts of things involved in gaming.

Here is a games industry article explaining how they do it.

http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

There is literally no way to tell how well the Xbox is doing within 'gaming' at Microsoft.

AngelicIceDiamond3725d ago

Nobody cares man. Xbox isn't going anywhere anytime soon just leave at that.

Overload3725d ago

@Angelic

Well, that's not entirely true. It seems to have gone to Win 10.

Or do you mean it's not going anywhere else now?

Bobafret3725d ago

So, how's that crusade going? Disgusting that you still have so many bubbles. Xbox is here to stay, get used to it.

christocolus3725d ago (Edited 3725d ago )

@bobafret

Lmao XD that was funny. MS isn't going anywhere. People can keep shouting from the top of every mountain about the demise of Xbox all they like but it's all a waste of their time and energy. We will get a successor to Xbox One. A console built ground up with the gamer in mind a console built to take advantage of MS hardware and software resources, fully backward and forward compatible and this time I bet MS will not repeat any of the mistakes they made with Xbox One. Also MS was no 2 gaming publisher by revenue as of November last year and Xbox live subscriptions and console games played a huge part of that and yet people here keep talking BS and thinking MS will suddenly stop making consoles? Lmao xD keep dreaming.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...

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AizenSosuke3725d ago

I agree this is interesting so Microsoft isn't going anywhere though which is sweet.

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PKSubban3726d ago

Of course not, there is still a massive user base. They aren't dead yet.

ShadowKnight3725d ago (Edited 3725d ago )

The Xbox isn't going anywhere only their exclusives will be going to Windows 10. Xbox/PC integration is the future.

FoxyGotGame3725d ago (Edited 3725d ago )

Xbox isn't going anywhere that part I agree with...

And to those who call for, or secretly lust at the thought of a MS departure from console gaming are anti-gaming. I thoroughly enjoy the Xbone, and though I'm not exactly thrilled at the idea of Xbone having a majority of its 1st party exclusives going to PC, I still cannot play them on my PS4, and I don't game on PC...so Xbone games are still kinda exclusive to me.

It's a perception thing ....that's MS' main problem /

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Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle24d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

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I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300029d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7229d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit29d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania29d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit29d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0728d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr29d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box29d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr29d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9529d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7229d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--29d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7229d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket29d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm29d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde29d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9228d ago (Edited 28d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_29d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted29d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit29d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9228d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT29d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers29d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14929d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0728d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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