message to edge... when a person runs, their vision shakes. and there is ability to jump in KZ2. and the helghast are supposed to be cold and heartless. thats what makes them seem so sinister and menacing. and the color remains the same because it's the same level! and besides, it's a battlefield..... what did you expect? rainbows and blue skies? gads, i'm sick of the same rhetoric.

every game has their own unique feel. u can not change it. if i play soul calibur like TEKKEN then i will get my a** whooped. u should adapt the things, see what game is offering and whats its strength not compare it with others like "there is no jump". hahaha now i say y UT 3 is so fast i will deduct every FPS for not being UT III times fast.
thanx

Stopped reading at No jump ahahahahahhaahhhaahhaha! These idiots can write anything without penalty can't they. I've seen these morons, play magazine and so many others completley miss the mark and post out and out lies and yet no penalty comes their way. Something needs to change in the Gaming industry because too many uninformed idiots are slipping through the cracks and anyone with a blog can spew their propaganda.

Stupid. Killzone 2 has a jump button and to say it doesn't is only hurting, defrauding, the game and the developers.

All i say is...F**K Edge Magazine!!!
If it was a xBox 360 game it would get 10/10(without them even playing it!)
But it's a PS3 ONLY game so they won't like it!!! :-/

+I got the Magazine once...Zzzzzzzzz it's SOOOO BORING!!!
Bit like everything Micro$oft do!!! ;-D
Hmm...is there a connection with Micro$lags and Edge Magazine somewhere???...Hmm

A wobbling camera when you run in Gears or Cod4 is okey, but it´s not in Killzone2.

A jump button is included in Killzone 2, "We really had to figure out what people liked and didn't like about the first game and then fix what was broken." Their first order of business? Add a jump button.

This mistake from edge to write something without checking facts is a disaster for their credibility!

"The Helghast are still an impersonal enemy with day-glo orange goggles on their heads."

Yea i guess no one knows about the helghast by now..

Call me crazy, but I actually liked how when you moved the camera would shake, it made it 10 times more immersive for me, but that's just me. Immersion is the main reason why I could forgive Killzone for it's faults(it is still one of my favorite shooters). Despite all the flaws, that game could suck you in like almost no other game can manage, which earns it many extra points immediately, and the sequel looks like its only going to heighten that immersion, which is why it's one of my most anticipated titles.

eh?

I may be wrong but Ive only seen mention of a jump button in multiplayer previews. Maybe there isnt a jump in single player or X button in single player is a action button (jump walls, take cover ect) Only guessing here.

edges caveats.

no jump
camera wobbles when you run and reload.

reality.

there is a jump.
and the camera wobbles when you run and reload just like it should.

so they are idiots and liars.

lets move on.

Press X and jump a few times then ask yourself, am I legit enough to continue writting articles?

Edge? Get your chit together.

i rember a dev saying they have added a jump button,i guess the person that played the game sucks at fps so he could not figure out fps games controls as soon as he picked up the pad :/

You know how you watch some of the gaem previews with walkthrough vids and the guy playing flat out sucks. The type of guy that runs into walls, can't aim or shoot to save their lives, one of the guys that runs rambo style headlong into turret fire in a game that requires TACTICS, and makes watching the preview vid an exercise in frustration?

I have a distinct feeling the guy from edge is one of THOSE guys...

ok two things

1- There IS a jump button in the game

2- This is an FPS. Which means the action is meant to be as if it was YOU in the game fighting. So I ask you then, when YOU run, does your vision NOT shake up and down due to your fast steps? The shaking is what makes it even more realistic for crying out loud

Seriously, Edge is borderline stupidity on this one.

this article reads like one giant back handed compliment. They are really struggling to cheapen the impressive tech behind this game.

lol@EDGE

Edge: "There's no jump button."

Every other website: "Thank god Guerilla added a Jump button."

Hmmmm, who should I believe? =P

Who gave these idiots the green light to preview titles?

honestly it boggles the mind. GSUS!

This douche manages to make quite a few back-handed comments. Halfway through a sentence and you think this guy is praising the game and then BAM he makes some snide remark at the end of his comment. For example:

"Sure it’s motion capture touched up with keyframes, but looking at it you know where a large chunk of Sony’s money went and also know that it was money well spent."

I mean for reading the begining of that poorly written sentence, you would think 'ohhhh man that is SWEET'. Apparently you are WRONG.. cause for some unforseeable reason. SO what? What should have Sony done, used the same crappy dumb-down version of ragdoll. I have not seen any game that has done death-animations corretly, so even remove it all together. I mean, holy crap, this guy manages to make a sh*t pie out of sunshine.

Then there is this gem.

"and the ragdoll death animations are deathly - but before then, a cloud of black particles detaches itself from the now-dancing figure as if a mist of blood and bodily fluids is being emitted. It’s probably some sort of computationally-cheap special effect linked into the complex deferred rendering technique used in the game but it’s highly effective nevertheless"

'It's probably some sort of computationally-cheap special effect'??????? WTF, if he doesn't know what it is then why even make a negative comment....according to the Edge author it looks great BUT, its a Sony game so automaticly there is something invisable that suckes about this game..... even though he can't explain or point out what it is.

Killzone2 has great enemy design and terrific art direction all round - i for one would be entirely happy with just grey

As for the the Helghast being somewhat this mysterious foe, that's actually much what i would rather than something corny in it's place

Halo 3 is total class but i would like to see this do well as it does look so damn nice

You can shove Resistance2 though, the whole thing just feels forced and unconvincing

Often devs look for ways to get effects cheap as it makes sense not to ask too much of the hardware where possible.If it can be done just as effectively but by shortcut or smoke and mirrors, that's what generally happens.

Doesn't mean it is in this case but it very well might be.So what if the results are as effective as Edge reports

It's one thing to try to spread FUD. But now they are outright lying. Because there IS indeed a jump button.

I know it sounds small initially, but stuff like this can make or break a game nowadays. Hell, Atari sued someone for a bad review of Alone in the Dark. So Sony should be able to sue for a "prominent" magazine/online source telling lies about one of their more high profile games.

i dont care about reviews i want this game so i can be helgahst and just start sniping ppl

What an idiot. I guess he's never heard of MGS4.

No you mean COD4 killer.. Cod4 is the top FPS game now.. Killzone 2 will take that spot feb 2009..

Halo 3 sucked and COD4 killed that game in every aspect..

Why do they keep feeding us these CG lies? It’s bad enough that PS1 and PS2 games couldn’t reach their target renders, but doing it on the PS3? Look, I’m glad that this new Pre-rendered footage surpasses the Pre-rendered footage from E3 ’05; it’s gorgeous in every respect. But come on, show us the gameplay!

Are you joking?

I wish I never bought CoD4, it just a boring and horrible game, play TF2 or Halo 3. Halo 3 has more support from Bungie, updates to playlists, new maps released, bungie favourites and Halo 3 has much better gameplay.

Killzone 2 is shaping up to be an awesome game and I can't wait for it to hit my PS3, all I need to get is a headset and the dualshock 3 controller for my PS3 and I'm set.

These are the same morons that said HAZE was going to be a good game.

The only problem I had in Killzone 1 was the wobbly camera when you threw a grenade or when you reloaded your gun. I really hope they fix this and steady the camera.

in Killzone 2 is the way it is because that's the tone the first two titles in the series created.

it would seem strikingly out of place if suddenly Killzone 2 looked like Uncharted.

also, we haven't even seen a full level in Killzone 2, let alone the entire game. if i remember correctly, the original Killzone had a greenish, forest level (it's in the opening "Attract Mode" video; i've yet to get there myself, i think i'm starting chapter 8 or 9), so it's not all bland and gray.

actually, my use of the word "bland" is horribly incorrect. the environments in Killzone 2 are anything but bland from what i've seen in gameplay videos so far. the level shown just OOZES with detail and areas of interest.

Bland levels would be something like in Castlevania: Curse of Darkness, with empty corridor after empty corridor. i personally like Curse of Darkness, but the levels can be described as "bland." Killzone 2 can not.

it's also a matter of art design and preference.

why can Call of Duty 4, Gears of War, and even Metal Gear Solid 4 get passes for having very monotone color schemes, but Killzone 2 gets called out for it?

why is Killzone 2 labeled as just another shooter, while COD4, Halo 3, and Gears of War get praised, though they all feature the same core elements (point gun; shoot; kill enemy)?

what sets good first person shooters apart from poor first person shooters is ATMOSPHERE. attention to detail in terms of graphics AND story and the world surrounding the characters.

some of what we consider the best FPS titles in gaming have that in spades on top of smooth controls and, at the time, ground-breaking visuals.

Half Life 1&2, Call of Duty (the original AND 4), Halo, Doom, Wolfenstein, etc.

Killzone 2 seems to excel at graphics, animations, world detail, atmosphere, intensity of the battles, iconic enemy, story, controls.

so WHY are people just dismissing this game as "just another shooter?"

Guerrilla Games are clearly going above and beyond the call of duty (no pun intended) with Killzone 2.

i mean, what more does GG have to do to atone for the mistakes they made in the original Killzone, their FIRST GAME by the way? since then, they've worked on 4 games total: Killzone, Shellshock: Vietnam, Killzone: Liberation, and now Killzone 2. they've learned a fair bit since then, and they are applying it to their new game, with startlingly positive results.

cut them some frigging SLACK already!

they proved the whole gaming world WRONG at E3 2007, when nobody expected them to come withing 25% of their CG target render from two years prior, they came within' 90% of that render, and with the latest builds we've been seeing, they've come even closer.

so, what? because the doubters have egg on their face for being proven wrong about the graphics (and the capabilities of the PS3 as a whole), they have to, naturally, attack the gameplay because they know that the majority of us gamers can't get our hands on it until release, so they freely nitpick things that other FPS titles have as STANDARD, out of spite?

but you just KNOW that if Guerrilla had 100% nailed the gameplay, but didn't match the target render even 50%, the media and haters would STILL b*tch and complain about how KZ2 is an epic failure because it didn't match the target render.

haters can't have it both ways.

Killzone 2 is looking AND playing great. deal with it.

Guerrilla Games have come a long way since 2004, when the original Killzone released.

get off their backs already, and stop trying to FIND ways to be disappointed in Killzone 2.

you can find things to be disappointed with in ANY game if you try hard enough.

i can make a gigantic LIST of ways to make classics from Chrono Trigger, to Metal Gear Solid, to Uncharted, to Gears of War, to Bioshock, to Call of Duty 4 seem like generic, crappy, poorly designed wastes of time if i wanted to.

LoL this is funny article. Whatever the problems they mentioned are actually Pros of killzone 2. These are the feature what makes killzone 2 more realistic shooter. Yes Jump addition would be nice but others are perfect if not beyond perfect.
edit :- my bad, kz2 has jump button too.

The First PS3 killer app: Blu-ray. There is still no universal killer app for 360 unless it is aimed at hardcore gamers. PS3 is already the best media player, and 360 is missing a lot more features present on PS3 than PS3 is missing that are present on 360. So it's funny when they say "The first killer app for PS3". I don't even consider Killzone 2 a killer app, just a very awesome game, the same way Gears is to 360, or Wii sports is (sadly) for the Wii.

Are there any games on 360 that actually resemble to what Afrika, EyePet, or Little Big Planet can do? Those are unique games. A killer app is not just something "great", it is something nobody has played before, and frankly everything on 360 is too conservative to be called a killer app.

Killer apps for hardcore gamers? Yeah, all consoles have them. But killer apps with mainstream appeal? EDGE Fails. If you want the definition of a true killer app, look at the Wii, look at how despite the PS3 being so expensive, late to the game and having less games when compared to 360, it is selling more.

You could say the same thing I say about Gears of War with MGS4, Resistance, Folklore, Ratchet, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword and Uncharted, but at least three of these games, namely uncharted, mgs4 and heavenly sword, have the best storytelling and production values anyone has ever seen as far as gaming goes, and the only games that compares to those games that are available on 360 are Bioshock and Mass Effect, the first which is multiplatform, and the later which might end up multiplatform either.

Too Human aimed to reach the same level of storytelling but it just wasn't there, either because Dyack was too ambitious, or because they just plain suck at programming; the game's graphics suck so I'm guessing the later. That or Unreal Engine really set them back, but I wonder why that did not happen for Mass Effect and Bioshock. At least 360 owners now have Fable2 and Alan Wake to look forward to, but unfortunately the first has mini-games that have been reviewed poorly (perhaps they are completely unrelated to the final quality of Fable 2 anyway), and Alan Wake is nowhere to be seen.

Anyway, say what you will about the first killzone (even though it got better reviews than Too Human according to metacritic), talk about its glitches and how it was too ambitious for the PS2, but when talking about storyline, it had a damned fine one in terms of storytelling, and in terms of originality it was also top notch when compared to halo. I don't know if in terms of storyline this one will be just as deep, but in terms of gameplay it looks extremely dynamic, and in terms of graphics it almost looks like Crysis.

If you are talking about "just fun" or "gameplay" as opposed to having great storytelling and production values, there is the Wii, or you could also find games that were just as fun on PS3 on launch window as there were on 360, hell the only reason to buy a 360 back when PS3 launched was Gears, except PS3 had a longer game called resistance which happened to have online matches with tons of more players; where is 360's motorstorm and warhawk? Where is 360's answer to ratchet and clank? Hell, where is Microsoft's game studios response to ANY game with awesome storytelling?

So far they have only come up with timed exclusives, not something of their own, not talent they actually recruited themselves. Microsoft needs something unique, not something that is simply "rated good". And BTW, talking about good "ratings", it also happens that Microsoft knows how to be generous in terms of publicity, so Halo 3 and Gears of War are actually very overrated games, just like GTAIV (even though GTA4 is awesome, GTA:SA was longer thanks to GTA4 being restricted to DVD9 so that was horrible to me; Gears is good, and Halo 3 can't compare to it in many ways, Gears is still borrowing lots of gameplay mechanics; in the best case for Xbox fanboys, it got its reviews for having eye candy, not for being a very innovative game or one with very high production values). Anyhow, who would dare give Halo 3 or Gears 2 a bad review considering its massive marketing budget? If I was Gamespot, I know I wouldn't. Oh wait.

I've seen the game with my own eyes, in person, there is a jump button, no silly camera angles or what ever fudder he wrote after that first paragraph because I didn't bother to read the whole thing. It's evident that he's never played the game or much less seen it.

The fact still remains that since Resistance: FOM there has been a concerted effort by bias and jealous fanboys online and in retail stores like GameStop, in which they can't seem to swallow the fact that SCEA is gaining momentum, because it has always deliver great software. Yes, PlayStation 3 does have great games as well, don't be negligent of the fact that Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, Folklore, Ratchet Clank, GT5 Prologue were all great games.

Let's face it, those that want PlayStation 3 (Sony) to fail are those still holding onto their fanboy Sega pride. I willing to bet that Xbox fans were all Sega fans. How childish.

Man, these people give gamers in general a bad name. You know I think I'm going to write a book entitled: "The Birth of Gaming Fanboyism: The Sega Years"

Sony really does need another mainline shooter franchise. They pretty much gave up after the PS3 generation, and I'm really surprised they haven't tried at another high-profile, singleplayer-centric shooter; even if it weren't Killzone or Resistance.

I miss Killzone while I can see why they still do Horizon has some really good things but I do think that Horizon is overrated imo.

Or how about studios focus on projects that they feel passionate about, and not be forced to make something they have little interest in. It shows in the final product.

It’s still got potential for the modern era. The DNA is all there. The install base is there. The interest is there. The time is now.

Killzone 2 and 3 were farkin brilliant and way better than halo

Too bad they've abandoned em smh, then theres sony barely even acknowledging what us fans want. Every time they sale a certain high amount it get like that with them smh

Because Killzone games are awesome, that's the reason.

New ip after 3'rd horizon please 🙏

Give it to Bungie. The Helghast are awesome enemies and Bungie could make something really cool

not enough interest to keep it alive

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.