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Why The PS4 Is Seriously Missing Out By Not Having Backwards Compatibility

ThisGenGaming says "One thing that I feel that the Playstation 4 is missing is backwards compatibility. It used to be a standard in their consoles that you could play your old games on their newest console, and starting with the PS3, they started to pull away from that leaving only select models to include the feature. And with the latest generation of consoles, both PS4 and the Xbox One weren’t launched with the ability to play the games from the past."

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SourtreeDing3773d ago

i seriously dont care for this feature.....

maximusprime_3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

i seriously agree

Abash3773d ago

Full BC would have been terrific in 2013 and 2014, but since last year this gen has had an awesome rollout of great games. I can't imagine myself actively replaying old games when there are so many new games I am playing and anticipating

DARKKENT3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

It's a feature that should be there

For those who won't use it there are plenty that will

Case and point people are paying absurd money for psnow!!

Especially with sony going on record claiming lots of ps4 owners never had a ps3 last gen.. And that's their excuse for all the remasters..

Now sony have gone the more PC specs route the ps5 has no excuse.

BattleAxe3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

No backwards compatibility on PS4 is one of the reasons why I left. The other reason was since you have to pay to play online now with PS+, it put Xbox and PlayStation on an even level.

I bought my Xbox One roughly 7 months before they announced backwards compatibility, because I knew, or at least had a strong feeling that they would be bringing backwards compatibility to Xbox One.

It's been a fantastic feature so far. To date, I've played the heck out of Gears of War 1 and Rainbow Six Vegas, which are a couple of my favorite games. Backwards compatibility is an awesome feature, and one that most people like having on Xbox One.

People were starting to get excited when the rumors of PS2 backwards compatibility on PS4 were swirling, up until the actual details of the PS2 games that were coming were announced. Sony could do it if they wanted to, but the only reason that I can think of, in terms of why they wont do it, is that they want to make additional money. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's not something that I'm personally very happy about.

TFJWM3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

@BattleAxe so you sold a system because you couldn't play your ps3 games on it? And then bought the rival system on the mere chance that it would get BC at some point? I do not believe you for some reason...

OT: It is a decent feature but nothing I would buy a system for my current backlog of games is deep enough I don't have time to replay many games

BattleAxe3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

^^^

I never owned a PS4, and I wasn't even going to buy a console this generation. I waited a year, and liked the direction that Microsoft was going after Phil Spencer took over, and I didn't like the direction that PlayStation was going. I was a huge PlayStation fan, going back to the PlayStation One, but Sony has changed.

I still own two PS3 consoles, which I will never get rid of. PS3 was the best experience I've ever had, next to playing Socom on PS2. Last generation I wasn't a fan of Microsoft much at all, and I believe that the PS3 was the best console ever made, with the best games, but I don't see that this generation with Sony, for a variety of reasons. I do think that the PS4, in terms of the console hardware, is a great looking console though.

donthate3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

Well some people disagree as they are clearly asking for this feature. What bums me out the most is how Sony is handling BC.

First they overcharge you with PS Now, then they overcharge you again with PS2 BC.

It is an option so I can't complain about that, but I won't be supporting that practice when the competition is offering it for free.

In fact, when I look at it across I see indie games on PS4 going significantly up in price like Witness being $40, and then No Man's Skye being $60. Then I look across the pond, and see MS offering free maps for Halo 5, and all content are unlockable in game. Then I see Quantum Break getting cross-buy.

Then I look at how EA Access is available on Xbox One with Xbox 360 games now, and not on PS4 because of Sony, I start to see a trend of who is consumer friendly and who isn't!

But people will defend this, so they do deserve to stay with it. I still use my PS4, but won't make it my main platform. PC is going to be my main platform with all the goodness coming out of UWP.

SniperControl3773d ago

My PS3 sits next to my PS4, in the two years since PS4 launched, i have hardly touched it, i keep adding all the games from PSN+ to the library, but there are to many games on PS4 to play first.

Kingthrash3603773d ago

Still out sold both the wiiu and the xbox who have the feature. It's not missing out on much at all.
Also it isn't by choice, the cell processor is a huge wall to climb. Ultimately not worth the man hours to do. Not to mention people are gunna want it free if they have a disc or download.

Lord_Sloth3773d ago

*still has PS3 hooked up*

Indeed.

moegooner883773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

@battleaxe. "I didn't like the direction PS was going."

You mean the game centric one? Lol ok

@donthehate, you actually think Sony priced those titles? Wow. And a game shouldn't be priced at 60 dollars because it is indie? What kind of logic is this? A game should be priced according to the content it offers, not according to its status. Both The Witness and NMS content easily overweight many of the recent AAA titles. It is called commonsense.

Bahamut3773d ago

Yeah, I have 72 games on my PS4. Also, I have a PSTV sitting right next to the PS4 with all my Ps1 classics on it. I'm good. Seriously.

BattleAxe3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

@moegooner88

"You mean the game centric one? Lol ok"

No, you mean their indie game centric focus. Also, I don't like what they've done with their first party games.

I'm a big Killzone fan(Killzone 2&3 were awesome), but Killzone: Shadow Fall, of which I played a bit over at a friend's place, I didn't care for it. Also, after reading the reviews, it was clear that it didn't measure up to the previous games very well. Although, I can give credit where it is due, and say that it had pretty nice graphics.

I'm a big infamous fan, and I've got my platinum trophies for Infamous 1&2. Infamous Second Son has some real nice graphics, but I'm not sure if it's because Cole isn't part of the storyline or what, but it didn't entice me enough to buy a PS4. I also heard that it had far less content than the previous two games. However, if I were to ever buy a PS4, this would probably be the first game I would buy.

Other than those two games, there isn't much there for first party games that I would care about. The Order 1886 and Knack don't interest me at all, and I'm not a huge racing fan, so I'm not interested in Driveclub. Also, no Socom, no MAG, no Motorstorm, no Resistance, no Heavenly Sword, and so far, no new God of War game. These were some of my favorite franchises/games last gen, and in the case of Socom and God of War, I've been a huge fan ever since the PS2.

So outside of indies and the above mentioned first party games, there isn't much for me to get excited about. I'm not a fan of dark Souls/Demon Souls, and I'm not a fan of Blooborne(which I did try over at the same friends place where I played Killzone). I've also never been a JRPG fan, so what else is there?

At least give me some credit for being honest, even though we don't see eye to eye. I'm very interested to see how Uncharted 4 turns out. Uncharted was one of my favorite franchises last gen, but Uncharted 3 didn't really capture my attention the way the first two games did.

Uncharted 4 could be a game that causes me to buy a PS4, but with Infamous Second Son and Uncharted 4 being the only two games that interest me as exclusives so far on the PS4, and with most AAA games being multiplatform between Xbox One and PS4, I would be waiting towards the end of the generation to purchase, when the PS4 has dropped in price. Also, with no backwards compatibility, there is even less incentive for me to buy a PS4. Hopefully Sony releases a client for PC, in order to compete against Origin, Xbox, and Steam, but who knows if that will ever happen.

PeaSFor3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

BC is something that you will touch 2-3 times then forget about it, got the phat 60gb ps3 mostly because of BC... used it like 2 times to play ps2 games..., sure it can be a nice features IF you dont have any actual interesting games to play..... but thats not the case with the ps4 anyway, so no, ps4 isnt missing anything other than A NEW MOTORSTORM!

peoples tend to go forward, NOT stagnate or go backward.

downvote from butthurted donth.. uh i mean xbox fanboys in 3, 2, 1 ..

Griever3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

Man, who has the time to play 10 year old games on new consoles when we have got a barrage of new games coming? I know there are retro gamers but they are in the minority. I had BC for my PS3 for 3 years that I owned it and never played a SINGLE old game on it. Just never got the chance. I already had a backlog of current gen games. I just did not buy a next-gen console to play last-gen games.

It is a nice feature but has minimal impact on console success or popularity. Just look how much difference BC made for Xbox One's fortunes even though it was a heavily hyped feature that was supposedly going to turn the tides of console wars as millions of Xbox 360 owners would move to Xbox One due to BC. How did that turn out? The fact is that very few care about or actually use BC even if its there.

rainslacker3773d ago

@donthate

You can find people asking for every conceivable feature, and even features not even conceivable. Doesn't mean it really matters to most. 40-50 million people don't seem to mind that they can't play older games on the PS4, and I doubt a substantial number of them are wallowing in it's exclusion.

This whole BC thing was barely even a topic until MS announced a BC type solution.

Sony isn't really handling BC. They stated quite clearly, before the gen started, that BC would not be available on the PS4, and have reitterated it many times that it does not have a BC solution, nor did they have plans for a BC solution.

All those other things you mention aren't BC.

I'm sure if BC of some sort actually came to PS4, many people would be happy for it's inclusion, but the only time I've seen mass hate over it's exclusion is upon MS announcement that they would get approval for some older titles to run in an emulator...which admittedly, Sony could probably try to do as well...even if only for PS1 games where the digital copies are rather abundant.

ABizzel13773d ago

Honestly I don't really care about backwards compatibility personally, it would be cool for a few games, and it's always better to have every game you own playable for those rare times you want to revisit a game, but if it's that big of a deal, why not start a sign-up list requesting the PS4 slim add a cell processor chip for Backwards Compatibility.

The PS4 has been insanely successful, so Sony can fund adding the processor in there, so start a list.

Here's a head start:
https://www.change.org/star...

Pongwater3773d ago

If BC was a killer feature PS3 would have been sunk when it was removed.

End of story.

ThyMasterDebater3773d ago

Couldn't agree more... I don't give a rats ass. There is so many way to play old games now and I have a PS3 and PS2 that collect dust and have been moved from my entertainment center back into there boxes. Don't even try to put this BS on me, I'm well aware of how much I am not missing anything at all. We spent years with those consoles.

WelkinCole3773d ago

I still see people equating PS Now to BC

For the last time

PS Now = Game Streaming which allows you to play a game without having to own a copy

BC = Backward compatibility allows you to play games you already own a copy on your current gen machine.

Two very different things.

DemonChicken3772d ago (Edited 3772d ago )

As with many people bought a PS4 to play new games (with better features and optimization) not to play old games which I probably have already played to death!

What would be a better feature is backwards compatible/cross buy with some of the PSN purchases of PS2 or PsOne classics that I have already purchased. I won't buy it for third time and kind of silly that the PS4 being the more powerful console not being able to play these games when my VITA or PS3 can =/

AnubisG3772d ago

I understand that many of you guys say that you don't care for this feature because you got your PS4 to play PS4 games. Fair enough.

However, there are people who would be happy to have that feature. I wish I could download and play the 100plus PS1 games that I purchased on my PS3. I wish I could pop any one of my 50 PS2 games I have in my PS4. I wish I can do the same with my 350 PS3 games.

It would be a nice feature to have. If you don't care about it, that's fine. Just don't say anything condescending or negative about this feature or the people who would actually like to have this.

There are gamers like myself who from time to time like to play older games for nostalgia or other reasons.

Eonjay3772d ago

My current gen backlog is alredy big enough. And PSNow is sufficient for last gen games. BC would be nice, but we are looking to the future, not the past.

Pogmathoin3772d ago

PS4 technically does have BC, just need to remortgage the house to play the games sitting on your shelf.

Kryptix3772d ago

If you really want to play your old PS3 games...then, don't sell your PS3 next time.

If you're new to Playstation, you can buy the PS3 on the cheap. With the PS4 being out for a few years, the PS3's value has come down.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref...

The feature is not game changing at all. The PS3's BC feature was removed and it went on to sell a successful 80+ million units while being crippled by one year against it's direct competition. It's all about the new games that come out for this generation...that's what's most important of all. Right now, the PS4 is really packing it when it comes to that which explains it's 2:1 lead over the Xbox One. There was literally no monthly sales % boost when BC came out on Xbox One.

WelkinCole3772d ago

@Anubuis

No one is saying it is a useless feature. It is however is not that important of a feature.

The only time I went back to play PS2 games on my PS3 was to replay games like GOW1&2 before playing GOW3 or MGS123 before MGS4.

It is a nice feature but I am sure most PS fans like myself found out last gen that its a feature you would generally use once or twice.

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Overload3773d ago

Most people don't. For all the people that tout this as some game changer, it's really changed nothing.

TripleCs3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

@SourtreeDing

Me neither.. The PS2 had it and I never used it on the PS2 for my PS1 games. The PS3 had it and I literally only used it twice on the PS3 to try out 2 games and I never used the feature again after that. I almost forgot it existed to be honest.. I've just never cared for it when it was available to me so I doubt I'd care for it if the PS4 had it.

@Overload

You're right. I don't think most people care that much about it. Nobody really talked about backwards compatibility last gen when every console had it. Why wasn't backwards compatibility such a big deal last gen? Why is it such a big deal this gen? I'll tell you why. It's because fanboys hype this feature up like it's the second coming of jesus and make it a bigger deal than it actually is so they can use it as ammunition for their console war since console A doesn't have it and console B does. That's the only reason this feature gets as much hype as it does. If both consoles had backwards compatibility then I guarantee you, you would never hear about it from people and you certainly wouldn't get millions of articles about it from the media. Hell, to be perfectly honest the Wii U has the best form of backwards compatibility since you can play ALL your retail Wii games and it has had backwards compatibility since day 1, right out of the box yet no one talks about it. Why is that? Why was backwards compatibility never a big deal for the Wii U? Oh wait.. I know why.. It's because the Wii U isn't really considered a part of the console war which only solidifies the point I made earlier.

For the record; backwards compatibility is a great feature. I'm not saying it isn't or denying that. I'm just saying that I don't think it's as big of a deal as it's hyped up to be..

Overload3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

Agreed. The Wii U having full backwards compatibility with the Wii, proves how little it means to the big picture.

CartBlanche3773d ago

Agreed. The only gamers who like BC are those who's console doesn't have compelling games THIS generation for them to play. When bored you look back at the previous gen's catalog. When you have great games, you never look back!!!

rainslacker3773d ago

I use BC quite often on my PS3(full BC phat model). But I'm a pretty big retro gamer, and I know for a fact that I'm a rather rare exception to a pretty hard and fast rule.

People often don't even play older games in the same generation, much less go back and play their older games from generations past. The vast majority of people sell their older games upon the selling of their old console. Those that care enough to play the old stuff, 9 out of 10 times, will keep the means to do so if they actually care. If a console has BC, then they'll move onto the new console, otherwise they just keep their old stuff.

BC is a great feature, and I would welcome it to any console, but anyone who says that it's a big selling point is just off the mark. What do I base this assumption on? The fact practically everyone said so before this gen started when both companies said there would be no BC.

At best, it can help get people to move into a new gen, if they're invested in the same hardware from the prior gen, because they can keep playing games they're used to.

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DragonbornZ3773d ago

I seriously do.
Looking forward to playing games I missed (RDR, Borderlands this month, etc) and some mp games.

OT: They just can't with PS3 games. I hope they get more PS2 games on the PS4 tho.
I need me some Tomba 2 ;_;

DragonbornZ3773d ago

@eferreira
Oh yeah. Its been so long lol. I hope for some PS1 games then too.

MasterCornholio3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

I would like to have it and I do think it's a good feature to have. But I can live without it. Its not like the PS4 is a terrible system for not having it.

iceman063773d ago

Exactly. It would make things more convenient for those that wanted it or missed out on some games at some point, but it is by NO means a "must have" feature.

XanderZane3773d ago

I can live without it because I have a PS3 that plays all my PS1 & PS2 games as well. I would love to be able to play my PS2 & PS3 games on the PS4 this gen, but it ain't going to happen. The good thing with the XBox 360 B/C is I can remove all those digital games off my 360 and make room for more FREE games. It's great that MS included digital B/C games as well. Sony isn't including any digital Indie games it seems.

MasterCornholio3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

@Xander

"The good thing with the XBox 360 B/C is I can remove all those digital games off my 360 and make room for more FREE games."

Well at least with the PS3 you can install a huge HDD so that isn't as much as a problem as Microsofts previous system which only uses proprietary HDDs.

Oh and the PS3 still gets free games via plus. I don't know why you capitalized "FREE" to make it seem that the PS3 doesn't get any free games.

P.S But you do know that the games are not free right? You literally are just renting them with your SUB. Or at least thats the way it works on XB1.

Eiyuuou3773d ago

Not gonna lie, I'd like to have it to play some older games that I've missed and so that I van finally get rid of my PS3. But not having it won't make me lose any sleep.

Pastorfuzz3773d ago

You should keep the PS3. I don't think they are worth much used anymore. Good to keep as a backup. My household keeps theirs, except for the Gamecube. But my daughter plays the Gamecube games on the Wii when she wants.

Eiyuuou3773d ago

I guess I wasn't clear. With "get rid" I actually meant store it somewhere.

It has some loading issues, so I wouldn't sell itto anyone.

aconnellan3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

To be fair though, there's always going to be a pretty even split for those who care versus those who don't.

For example, I didn't care when I was living at home with my parents/brothers and had access to a 360, but now that I've moved out I only have an Xbox One, and was able to take my backwards compatible titles with me.

It's like most features - it's not going to benefit 100% of the userbase, there'll always be some who could really use it and others who don't care for it

rainslacker3773d ago

I don't think it's an even split. Actual percentages of people who care is going to be impossible to judge, because it is one of those features when asked if one would want it, of course people are going to say yes. More important question is, are people going to use it?

People say it was one of the most requested features for Xbox One, and that's reasonable to accept. but the ability to ask for free features does not mean that people actually care about it, just that they want to include it in a list of things they want to ask for for free. I'd imagine if it costs money to use, most would say it's not worth it.

Being on forums, the ratios are going to be skewed, because forum gamers would be more prone to be willing to play older games...and likely those who go to fill out those requests are going to be types like us. But I think to the vast majority of console consumers, it's probably a non-issue....as current PS4 sales kind of indicate....and since the X1's BC announcement didn't show a measurable increase in sales, it's pretty safe to assume it's not really as desired as some around here make it seem.

Kemo_Spear3773d ago

And here we go again with this bias site and their pro-Xbox, flogged to death, flaimbait articles.

_-EDMIX-_3773d ago

lol agreed.

Not saying its bad, merely I don't own a PS4 to play PS3 games. If it did.....kool. lol

But its not a deal breaker if it wasn't even the reason behind me getting a PS4 in the first place. I still own my PS3, will still own my PS4 after PS5 releases lol.

if they are that much of a value to consumers.....they would have not been sold, traded etc in the first place. I have so much in terms of PS3 backlogs, that it was never even a slight THOUGHT to get rid of my PS3, if I had an 360 it would likely be the same.

Again, not saying its not a cool feature, but when PS5 is coming out, pretty sure the only thing on my mind is how sick the PS5 titles will be vs "can it play a platform I've already owned for years....and plan to still own for years".

Clown_Syndr0me3773d ago

But I bet you were buzzing for PS Now, the service that makes you pay to play games you may already own.

nitus103773d ago

If I own a game I normally have the means to play it. Why would I want to pay for something when when I already own it?

PS Now is a cloud gaming service and will allow some PlayStation brands and smart TV's like the Sony Bravia range to play PS3 games.

From Wikipedia:

"On December 24, 2014, Sony announced the PlayStation Now will expand to the other electronic brands such as Samsung smart TV's."

Basically PS Now is aimed at people who don't have PS3 but wish to play PS3 games on their smart TV's. Of course that means paying for the service.

If you already have a PS3 the only reason you would pay for this service is to play PS3 games you have not played before which depending on what type of games you play may or may-not be good value for money.

If this is hard to understand then think PS Now is equivalent to a Netflix service except it's for games.

Clown_Syndr0me3773d ago

PS Now is for idiots. I picked up a PS3 with 25 games for £50 and all the games on Ps Now are available to buy somewhere for less than their rental costs.

No one can defend that pricing model to me, because it's absurd.

notachance3773d ago

yeah, they're not 'seriously missing out' by not having BC. It's a nice feature to have but ultimately most people would spend their precious times on latest games, and BC would only be a nostalgia thing.

conanlifts3773d ago

It's a good feature. If you don't own a ps3 then you would be able to play all of the free ps+ ps3 games on your ps4. So basically backwards compatibility gives you more free games to play. That's a good feature and it is a shame it is missing.
Also people obviously care, there was so much excitement over ps2 backwards compatiibility until the details were announced.

nitus103773d ago

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

"On March 7, 2015, it was revealed that the PlayStation Now is accessible in Europe. Official beta invites for Europe started going out to PS4 owners on April 15, 2015"

I think the best way of describing PS Now is that it is equivalent to the Netflix service except it is for PS3 games.

Of course if you have a PS3 and plenty of PS3 games this "PS Now" may not be of any interest to you.

The only time "PS Now" would be of interest to a person with a PS3 would be if that person only had a few PS3 games and wished to play more, so rather than going out and buying the games they subscribe to "PS Now".

the worst3773d ago

its not needed it. im good without it

fattyuk3773d ago

Good for you

some of us want it

nucky643773d ago

why would I want BC on ps4?? if I want to play a ps3 game, i'll play it ON MY PS3.

fattyuk3773d ago

playstation needs to be 1 ecosystem across all platforms

and im the biggest fanboy of playstation you can find!

XanderZane3773d ago

Why would anyone want to play remastered on the PS4 if they already played the games on the PS3?

dboyman3773d ago

Or do a campaign to have a $600 PS4 with Cell/RSX processor built in and PS2/PS1 hardware......

Clown_Syndr0me3773d ago

Same reason I want it, the PS3 Is slow and dated, I'd much rather be able to play my PS3 games on my Ps4, is it so hard for die hard fan boys to admit?

I would also like the Xbox BC library to improve quickly because as of now it's crap.

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fattyuk3773d ago

Im a sony fanboy all day long

but sorry this feature would be epic.

rainslacker3773d ago

As a big Sony fan, I would love the feature too, because I do play a lot of old games.

Being a great additional feature isn't the same as it being a necessary feature though.

I would love to see Sony implement something, can't deny that. But I'm not going to damn them for not including it. If they removed it from my currently purchased console, then I might have quite a different opinion on the topic.:)

jcnba283772d ago

Thank you for not downplaying BC.

Realms3773d ago

Way to beat a dead horse to death, it's such a desired feature that the PS4 continues to kill MS even without it. Fanboys just let it go MS is going in a different direction than Sony with all the PC cross over why are so many people so desperate to continue this discussion over BC if you have an X1 enjoy it everyone else just doesn't care enough to continue to make it a big deal.

The only people that care that much are fanboys for everyone else is just another feature.

starchild3773d ago

I seriously disagree. Backwards compatibility is an important feature for me. I take advantage of it on the PC all the time.

garrettbobbyferguson3773d ago

And plenty of people including myself disagree with you. I had several PS2 disks that only worked on the Playstation 3 thanks to BC.

jstark3773d ago

Yeah only nerds need backwards compability.
Its much better to buy $40 "HD" remasters!
#4theplayers

Malacath3773d ago

Yeah we all like paying again for games we already own to play 'HD' Remasters of games that were already HD :->

Malacath3773d ago

I seriously do care.

Have a large collection of ps3 games I would like to play on my ps4. Just because A game is for a last gen platform doesn't mean its not worth playing.

Eventually my ps3 will die and my large collection of games will become unplayable. And as the ps3 will probably get discontinued soon I would not be able to buy a new one.

3-4-53773d ago

BC is a nice bonus to have because past generations had a greater variety of games.

PS1/PS2/PS3 had a greater variety of games and genres represented even if you just match the years PS4 has been released to the = of the PS1,2,3.

* I love the ability to play 1,000 DS games on my 3DS or play all the Wii games on my Wii U, but I wouldn't get mad if I couldn't.

I hope the NX console & handheld is NOT BC simply because that extra space/hardware/money can be spent on upgrading the console/handheld instead of having to also allow older gameplay.

Has pros and cons.

Tobsesan3773d ago

SO you dont like free games for preorder?

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butchertroll3772d ago

Me neither also. I played on last-gen everything i could.

Artemidorus3772d ago

I feel exactly the same BC means nothing to me. I want to look forwards not backwards.

fattyuk3772d ago

Games are like movies, just because its "old" doesnt mean its not worth revisiting.

UKmilitia3772d ago

i dont even play ps4 games from last year,nevermind games from 10 years ago.

dont waste money on the past,plenty of ways to have nostagla with ps1,ps2 and ps3 so cheap

Perjoss3772d ago

Anyone who loves PS3 games would have kept their PS3, I know I did. Besides, backwards compat is sometimes inferior, look at the games having frame rate issues on the XB1.

Tetsujin3772d ago

I wouldn't mind BC with downloaded games so I don't have to debate purchasing a previous console to play some older digital titles.

Other than that I wouldn't be surprised if Sony has something planned just waiting until the right moment to bring it up.

jerethdagryphon3772d ago

I have my ps3 and i havent turned it on other then for video chatting in months

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Brohan3771d ago

Probably cause there aren't many games that are worth playing BC for PlayStation. I on the other hand enjoy my BC on my Xbox so I have a bigger library of awesome games to choose from.

Yourmommasaid3771d ago

For all the people who actually thinks they're entitled of a backward compatibility on ps4: you're all fckn STUPID! Especially you, Battleaxe! What an idiot! Changing your mind about a console for not having BC is irrational. PS4 don't need BC, plain and simple! If you don't like it, then DON'T BUT IT! Fckn retards...smh

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Garethvk3773d ago

I thought the reason given was that the architecture of the PS3 was so radically different than the PS4 that it would be a logistical nightmare to make PS3 games run on the PS4.

OoglyBoogly3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

Not just the architecture but the actual power of the hardware itself. According to a few benchmarks I seem to remember that the PS3's Cell processor is actually faster than the CPU in the PS4, as sad as that is. So it's not just an architecture thing, it's the fact that the PS4 might not even be fast enough to emulate the PS3.

I will say that PS4 emulation on the PS5 should be a no brainer and totally doable though.

rainslacker3773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

It's kind of tricky with the CELL and x86. Cell is a faster running processor, however, the CPU in the PS4 is actually able to process more data. however, the CELL itself can process certain kinds of data faster than the CPU in the PS4, and those types of data tend to be rather common in modern day game design.

Nowadays, what was once meant to be offloaded in the PS3 to the CELL is done through GPU compute, which can also process that data really fast with the additional hyper-threading features that the CELL provided. GPU compute kind of took the place of the CELL principals, even though it was around before that in a similar form. CELL was basically a GPU compute principal set into overdrive, and meant to be the main way to program for it, as opposed to an option for x86/GPU code we see today.

Also, in the PS3, the architecture was built around an CELL/RSX design, which is similar to APU on the bus side, however, the data transfer capabilities within the PS4 APU aren't as efficient as they were in the PS3's bridge setup.

It could be possible to jerry rig up something using GPU compute, but I'd imagine it'd be a nightmare, and likely have to be tailor coded to some games, since CELL code was typically tailor coded to achieve the results it was capable of.

I would imagine that PS2 and PS1 emulation on the PS4 would be possible. But emulation without approval is copyright infringement, so Sony would have to get permissions just like MS does.

Having worked on some CELL code for games, I can say it's really quite interesting how it works. And I can also say I'm glad I don't have to do it anymore, because it can be more work. GPU compute is so much more streamlined.

meatnormous3773d ago

I just want some ps1 bc. A pretty low powered pc can do it, so could the ps4.

iKenny3773d ago

That's bullshit! It's all about the dollars with SONY and most of you guys believe it! Haven't you noticed that SONY is trying to resale you games on PS4 that you already own through digital sales?! Worst part, fans buy into it regardless if they own the game already!

Malacath3773d ago

They used to say backwards compatibility was impossible on xbox one too for the same reason.

360 being PowerPC based and xbox one being x84-64.

It's just a load of nonsense that Sony says as an excuse. While they are selling well and selling loads of remasters they have no need to add BC.

If fortunes were reversed and it was xbox one consistently in the lead you can bet that MS would still be saying BC is impossible and Sony would have found a way.

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Relientk773773d ago

Solution: keep all your game consoles, that's what I do

Chevalier3773d ago

You know I don't remember as much outlash when DS Lite lost GBA backwards compatibility, but, here we are and it's a huge thing apparently. I don't have a lot of customers coming and buying our XB1 to play old games, the majority buy it to play games they want and to play with their friends.

garrettbobbyferguson3773d ago

Plenty of backlash happened. The DSi is the worst selling Nintendo handheld so far. Not the DS Lite. The DS LITE CAN play GBA games. I have one in my DS LITE right now.

moegooner883773d ago (Edited 3773d ago )

Or as I like to call it, common sense.

starchild3773d ago

I do still have my PS3, but you can be damn sure I would prefer to only have my PS4 hooked up. My entertainment space is already too cluttered as it is. Not to mention my PS3 is on its last legs and may not last much longer.

Imagine if Blu-ray manufacturers took that attitude...."we're not going to include backwards compatibility with DVDs, since you can just keep your DVD players hooked up". People would be annoyed and upset.

Malacath3773d ago

Consoles eventually break and after they have been discontinued it becomes hard to get a new one

IIFloodyII3772d ago

No it doesn't, maybe in a couple of decades time it might, but it won't be hard to get a PS3 anytime soon.

bumnut3772d ago

The solution for me was to move to pc gaming, got fed up having no bc on consoles. Now i can play games old games without buying it twice unlike the remaster shit they pull on ps4.

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ninsigma3773d ago

It's not missing out on anything by not having it. The wii u had bc since its release and xbox now has it too and literally nothing has changed for ps4. Just wasn't the megaton game changer people said it was going to be.

Inzo3773d ago

Actually it was a game changer, it was such a game changer that the PS4 outsold the greatest gaming line up in xbox history.

MasterCornholio3773d ago

I'm actually happy that Sony didn't go with a CELL 2 if you know what I mean.

rainslacker3773d ago

Funny thing is, if CELL had been adopted as a good way to make games, instead of going the "easy" route, you'd see a lot more improvement in games this go around. CELL was a beast, and is still a beast when it comes to game routines. There have been advancements in CELL as well which make the PS3 look like a Pentium 3.

However, a lot of CELL's principals were adopted into modern CPU's, and GPU compute was built up better to be able to do mostly some of the same things.

That being said, if they had stuck with a more powerful CELL, it probably would have increased the cost of the console, because the production lines aren't making enough of the chips to get the quantities of scale we see from the APU's.

nitus103773d ago

The Cell is an incredibly powerful processor but it was not exactly cheap, however Sony was pragmatic and decided that the only way to keep development costs down was to go the x86-64 route.

One interesting and quite practical development was to use GDDR5 memory to serve as main and graphical memory compared to standard PC architecture of DDR3/4 for main memory and GDDR5 for graphics memory.

iceman063773d ago

Wouldn't say that, though devs struggled initially, it did pull off some amazing things. That being said, it's also the main reason that we probably won't get this feature.

bumnut3772d ago

It was very impressive, much more impressive than ps4 imo. God of war and heavy rain were nice looking games and far beyond what 360 was capable of.

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

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FPSRUSSIA66d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY66d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay66d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos66d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7266d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY66d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator66d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum66d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z66d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad67d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga67d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot66d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose67d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE67d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername66d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy67d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde66d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8666d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8666d ago (Edited 66d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole67d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300067d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

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-Foxtrot67d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle66d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7766d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments