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Could NX be just a portable

Apparently there are some new rumors about Nintendo's next-gen console codenamed 'NX.' It seems that the rumor of the NX being a portable device has gotten a lot stronger. Reports have the device coming with an HDMI dongle that would allow for gamers to output gameplay to a TV. The portable also includes 'haptic feedback' in the analog sticks. It has Bluetooth-syncing technology to where you can receive text messages and phone calls on screen without having to close the app or game. Once again, in terms of "power" it had been likened to being on the level of an XBOX One, or possibly 50% stronger than Wii U or 2x as strong as PSVita. In any event, it would be the most powerful handheld Nintendo has ever released.

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glaciergaming3746d ago

I hope the NX isn't a portable. I personally feel the 3DS has so much more to give. I think a new home console would be the way to go, but with a heavy emphasis on connectivity to unify all of the Nintendo tech.

RosweeSon3745d ago (Edited 3745d ago )

Yeah I'll second that ;)

ABizzel13745d ago (Edited 3745d ago )

3DS didn't really have more to give, and 2016 was probably it's last good year on the market sales wise. Sales have pretty much peaked in JP, and NA / EU just aren't as interested in traditional handheld as much as they were 5 - 10 years ago. Plus the tech was severely outdated at this point, and the game line-up was drying up last year.

It was a great little handheld, but it's life cycle was coming to it's natural end.

I think it could have at least done well in 2016 with price drops across the board around the release of Pokemon Sun / Moon, and carried over nicely into 2017, but as soon as the NX was announced to be revealed in 2016 it ruined both 3DS and Wii U sales.

Personally I'm fine with NX being a tablet / hybrid, because handheld is where the majority of Nintendo's fans game, and unfortunately the 3DS lost millions of gamers to smartphones and tablets, so Nintendo needs to make that up, and win back their audience, and a gaming tablet that acts as a gaming handheld, but also streams to a TV like a console is pretty much all I want from Nintendo.

The NVIDIA shield tablet is the best example of what the NX could be, and if you look up what that tablet does, and just imagine a more powerful (if the rumors are true), with Nintendo's full support, and improved streaming, then you would see just how big this can be for Nintendo.

The one thins I will say is if they are planning on making a NX portable and a NX console, then it's stupid IMO to release the portable before the console. The handhelds have always outsold their consoles, and the 3DS completely ate up Wii U sales as well, by launching first, being $100 - $200 less, and being a quality enough device to be able to get ports / spinoffs of some Wii U games which provided it an overall better library.

You can't have the NX hybrid and console launch with the same shared library, and expect the console to do well if the hybrid launches first, cost less, and has the same games to play.

Darkwatchman3745d ago

I don't think the 3DS has "so much more" to give. It's been out for 5 years. That is a typical generation. Sure, a little more levity can be had for handhelds because they don't need to be the most cutting edge all the time, but even so, I think we're approaching a new handheld and whether that turns out to be the NX or something else remains to be seen.

I'll give the 3DS another 1-2 years considering the New 3DS model only just came out last year and still only really has one exclusive game not counting the recently announced SNES games.

I don't want a new handheld right away, but I do want to see it relatively soon. The 3DS already became super outdated hardware wise the second the PS Vita launched just a year after the 3DS. Kind of a wii u to ps4/Xbox one problem. I want the next handheld nintendo makes to be a noticeable leap in power over the vita and have a screen resolution that isn't abysmally low for what should be decent hardware. The fact that Nintendo never bothered to improve the resolution of either the 3DS XL or EITHER NEW 3DS model kind of baffles me, honestly.

Antnee5343745d ago

Guys think though if this is there next portable then we can get better pokemon and fire emblem games!!!

RosweeSon3745d ago

But it won't be tho sure better handheld better games but after announcing all those new games for 3DS only yesterday and with New Pokemon already confirmed for original 3DS, can't see when everyone wants a new and more powerful Home console that they will replace an already well established system (3DS) that is still continuing to sell much better than their home console for another handheld. Home console is next and new handheld if there is a dual element to new home system but yeah otherwise new handheld won't be this year 2017 earliest. 3DS isn't getting dropped any time soon.

Summons753745d ago

The DS had games coming out for a while after the 3DS was out with Black and White 2 coming out a year after the 3DS was released. This isn't anything new with Nintendo since more than likely the NX will have backwards compatibility with 3DS games if it is a handheld. The 3DS came out in 2011, it's been 5 years which is a typical life cycle. The 3DS has been pretty much maxed out and we won't see games get much better than ORAS and FE fates and devs are opting to leave out 3D for the sake of better performance to push the system as far as it can go. As much as I love my 3DS it's time for a new handheld. This is a good year for the 3DS to have a last hurrah but it's no secret the 3DS sales have been consistently dropping for the past few years. They had to release a slightly upgraded 3DS to give a little boost to performance and that model, as wonderful as it is, didn't take.

Honestly I'm in the NX will be a primary handheld but with a way to connect to the TV for home entertainment speculation camp.

wonderfulmonkeyman3745d ago

Nope, it's not. I'm 99% sure of that.
IIRC, when they announced that they were making the NX, they said something to the effect of it being the next step in their console line.
Why would they call it a console if it's ONLY a hand-held?
It wouldn't make sense.

RosweeSon3745d ago

Why would they announce a new Pokemon if they are ditching the console before it's due out but yeah I agree it's a home console.

Summons753745d ago

You do realize Black and White 2 came out for the DS a year after the 3DS' release right? What Gamefreak chooses to do has nothing to do with Nintendo's plans. Also Fire Red and Leaf Green released the same year as the DS.

RosweeSon3745d ago (Edited 3745d ago )

Summons won't let me reply to you for some reason but no I clearly didn't haha my bad I bought 3ds day one but forget it's been 4 years or more already time flies, I should have known as well as I was playing both black and white (white I think) then black 2 was just getting back into the series after platinum but still I don't see it myself DS had sold a lot more by that point and was clearly not gonna sell too many more a new handheld was needed I've had mine day one and I wouldn't have said it needs a new one desperately but I know I'm behind one some big games due to backlog and saving some of the best til last but yeah think 3ds is good for another year or so 12-18 months get this NX whatever it is out and then worry about a new handheld if it's not already able to detach from the home console either way Nintendo always keep us guessing sure things get leaked but they always change the game.

Still think 3ds has legs tho they only started SNES games yesterday and there's a massive of amazing games. GBA would be ideal being as its handheld. New Pokemon, beat the rhythm is it? Never played originals so grabbing that hopefully I can't see why they wouldn't/couldn't do a Mario Kart 9 before leaving number 10 for the NeXt home console. Surely they could also get N64 games on 3DS, DS had Mario 64 how many years ago.

BenRage33745d ago (Edited 3745d ago )

@Wonderfulmonkeyman

"Why would they call it a console if it's ONLY a hand-held?
It wouldn't make sense." But if the system is both hand-held and console, then it would make sense.

If Nintendo is ditching the traditional console/handheld formula for a merging of the two concepts, then Nintendo would not be lying by calling it a console.

And let's not pretend that Nintendo always let's us know exactly what they are planning. They emphatically denied making a new version of the 3DS not two months before they announced the 3DS XL.

Of course until the NX is officially unveiled, this is all conjecture.

wonderfulmonkeyman3745d ago

To be fair, the 3DS XL wasn't so much a new version as it was a size upgrade.
The difference is subtle, but it's a very important distinction between mere variant and flat-out upgrade.

As to the NX, if it's a mix between console and hand-held, then there's going to be two distinct units; one for the home and one for on the go.
There's no way they're going to be making a hand-held that functions as a normal console at the same time, that can be BC with Wii U or play disks, because that would be waaaaay too bulky and battery-intensive to carry around with you.
They also can't rely solely on cartridges like how the 3DS does for it, either, because that's not what third parties would want to use to put their games on the system.

And there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL that they'll be the first to go fully digital by cutting out disks and cartridges.
We all saw how "well" Microsoft was received for attempting that; not even Nintendo's stupid enough to try that so soon after the idea was shot down.

That's why I say that there's no way it's a console that fully combines the two.
I'm firmly convinced that if there is any sort of portable aspect to it, it'll be a separate unit.
Hopefully optional, so that the same whiners that couldn't step out of the past [and their comfort zones] and embrace the Wii U's controller won't have a chance to crucify the NX.

deafdani3745d ago

A handheld is a console, too. Just in portable form. :P

KimikoGaming3745d ago

Why would we get a new handheld generation this year when we just got the NEW 3DS last year which is supposed to offer even more powerful games and visuals than the previous 3DS?

Focus on new games for the NEW 3DS before making another handheld generation. It only has 2 games so far.

BrandanT3745d ago

It could probably render more but I don't think it's more visually impressive because the New 3DS still has the 240p resolution.

Darkwatchman3745d ago

The new 3DS just has a better CPU. No other hardware specs improved. Hardly capable of rendering much better visuals.

superchiller3745d ago

@ Kimiko - Because the "New 3DS" (terrible name) is nothing more than a cheap trick, to try to get loyal Nintendo fans to re-buy the same handheld they already have. 3DS hardware sales were tanking, and Nintendo wanted a way to boost sales, so they released the "New 3DS" hoping fans would re-buy it. Huge scam, and a poor way to treat their customers.

Ninja_G_Aidan3745d ago

You are right.
I see the New 3DS as a tester console to find out new ideas for future consoles. The second analogue stick sucks on the New 3DS and was one big tester idea.

Philface3745d ago

@Schiller: No one is telling you to buy this. That's all in your mind.

BenRage33745d ago (Edited 3745d ago )

"Why would we get a new handheld generation this year when we just got the NEW 3DS last year which is supposed to offer even more powerful games and visuals than the previous 3DS?"

The answer to that is 3DS sales are beginning to decline. For the year 2016 (quote from article, link below), "The company is predicting a 34% drop in operating income and a 51% drop in net profits for the year as well."

Some, not all, of Nintendo fans live in this bubble of denial that Nintendo's financials are just wonderful, because the 3DS somehow sustains the company. I love Nintendo, but the 3DS is going to have trouble reaching 100 million in lifetime sales. So far 5 years= 58 million units sold. That is good, but it's not nearly the numbers of the DS. The 3DS will be lucky to hit GBA numbers of around 80 million. People forget that the 3DS wan't even selling until Nintendo dropped the price and they took a huge financial hit when the did that. It hasn't always been a steady stream of profit from the handheld division this time around, and we're not even talking about their home console business.

Nintendo is in decline right now, and while I do not think it is time to panic yet--it does make sense for Nintendo to reinvigorate their video game business by releasing some new hardware. A hybrid HD console/handheld makes a lot of sense to me. I'd totally buy one.

http://www.extremetech.com/...

wonderfulmonkeyman3745d ago

I'm thinking the same thing you are, but for a different reason; the NX home console will be a home console period, but with a controller that will allow some degree of portability, if rumors are true.

But that won't mean it will aim to replace the 3DS, because the 3DS and NX will have separate software.

I doubt we'll be able to play something like Smash Bros 3DS on our NX controller, for instance, and therein lies the distinction between the NX being a home console or a portable; the fact that each one will, most likely, have software designed specifically for it.
You'll be playing NX games on the go, but you won't be playing 3DS games on the go unless you've got an actual 3DS.

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Herbalistic3745d ago

I doubt its a portable being as Nintendo are trying to get support from huge western publishers

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Relientk7765d ago (Edited 65d ago )

Good, as they should! A game mechanic like that shouldn't be locked behind a patent, and Nintendo didn't invent it either.

PRIMORDUS64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Nintendo wants to keep wasting money on bullshit lawsuits, real smart in this economy. They should put that money aside for other game projects. On the other hand, I don't care if they waste it all either, and they are screwed in the future maybe that will teach them a lesson.

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Deathdeliverer90d ago

Well dayum lol. Old agent orange pissing off every industry and nation.

0hMyGandhi89d ago

The fact that you have ANY disagrees will forever baffle me. And to the (apparent) MAGA contingent that exists on this website, enjoy your 8-9 dollar gas.

AuraAbjure89d ago (Edited 89d ago )

Yes, they had better be pissed after Trump told them the way they rip off the USA is over.

EveryPlatformGamer90d ago

LOL I read this on gaff, will they refund the money back to the gamers? highly unlikely. Didn't they just raise prices and pass it onto the gamers? Only Nintendo would send out the Ninjas to the US government.

-Foxtrot90d ago

That’s what I was thinking, imagine them winning hypothetically, getting a s**t load of money back which they would have lost if they hadn’t raised their prices and it’s business as normal.

It would just mean people paid more for no reason since they got the money back anyway.

Outside_ofthe_Box89d ago (Edited 89d ago )

A lot of companies partially passed the cost to consumers instead of all of it. They would still have to at least pay that back to gamers, but we know that won't happen. What's also sad is that prices won't come back down after the initial hike caused by tariffs.

People didn't understand the full repercussions of tariffs. That alone should have cost him the presidency if people knew it was a permanent price hike for consumers

Inverno90d ago

The people should sue these companies for having to over pay cause of these tariffs.

Eonjay90d ago

Naw they should sue the government for forcing the tax to begin with. No one reasonably expects these companies to absorb the taxes. Many smaller companies tried and were shut down or faced to increase prices to try to maintain their business. The tariffs effect everyone.

Inverno88d ago

I meant it mostly as a joke cause we all know the costs of these tariffs were passed onto the consumer. But it's seems no matter how vocal we are here in the states our "representatives" don't seem to care enough to represent us. And things are about to get worse.

Killer2020UK89d ago

The companies were doing what the law required then to do, the tariffs however were illegally implemented. Usually it's criminals we punish, you seem to have different ideas 🤷‍♂️

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