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Could The Next Xbox Be A Windows Steam Box?

Over the past few months, Microsoft have been taking a lot of steps to try and push their PC gaming store as a direct competition to Valves Steam platform. This move has angered some gamers and is quite an unusual, but not unexpected move from Microsoft. Microsoft are in a powerful position over the competition in that they have a mainstream PC operating system to push their gaming division onto. If they go ahead with this, what will be the point of a dedicated console? Will the Xbox become a Windows Steam Box?

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madmonkey013742d ago

could be, they might finally have what they set out for with the DXbox.

ABizzel13742d ago (Edited 3742d ago )

It could and it should, as long as they have an Xbox OS, and a full Window OS running in parallel or as a separate boot option.

They already have their console gamer audience who will still be able to have their traditional Xbox experience, and on top of that they can dominate the low-end PC gaming market with users who can get by, or simply can't afford to build rigs over $400 due to country inflation etc...

It also allows every Xbox to completely replace the home desktop computer for the majority of non-gaming and non production users.

Also MS I want my check

ThePope3741d ago

Based on what MS did with the X1 controller if they got into the Steam Machine business and took on the challenge of making a truly universal gaming pad so I can play Total War and control my units with precision that would be an amazing system. They could offer multiple skus while making sure games (ie exclusives) run at the minimum sku while allowing the games to scale based on which one you have.

bleedsoe9mm3741d ago (Edited 3741d ago )

my opinion , xb will be an app , not dependent on hardware (xb or pc) . a couple of things to look for in the coming months , redesign of the win 10 store to look more like xb1 , integration of the store into the xb1 app , and a boot option for win10 so you can control it with a controller like steams big picture .

ABizzel13740d ago

@ThePope

Now that I'm giving praise to MS, you come an agree with me...but when I give justified criticism / concern I "love Sony"....

I'm just messing with you, but again I don't pick favorites in this. I want all 3 to be successful.

@bleedsoe9mm

I think there will still be Xbox hardware, just with significantly less investment into R&D. There's no need for it when they can simply make a Micro ITX gaming PC, and use pure off the market specs, and simply tweak performance from there.

https://www.google.com/sear...

The Xbox brand is still their bread and butter when it comes to consumer electronics. It's their best bet at making this PC movement a reality by getting their hardware into the home, and once they have tens of millions of PConsoles in homes then and only then can Windows Store become a challenger to Valve's steam.

*Build Windows Store quality so games aren't launching messy like Gears of War is right now.

*Build a PConsole Windows Machine for the next Xbox, and follow the beat of your own drum, and maximize your own profits.

*Have dual boot Xbox OS for traditional Xbox gamers, and Windows boot for traditional PC gamers.

*Sell and market hardware to both Xbox and low / mid range PC gamers.

That's how MS turns Xbox into a global brand, not by going head-to-head with PlayStation.

And again MS I want my check.... I need to write them a letter about this, because someone's been reading my blogs years ago.

Rookie_Monster3742d ago (Edited 3742d ago )

Why not? I can see a more powerful xb1 announced at E3 that is a hybrid windows 10/xb1 all in one console. It will play xb1 games and can switch to a full fledged Windows 10 PC and run steam.

Genuine-User3742d ago (Edited 3742d ago )

We already have one of those in our midst. It's called a PC.

Rookie_Monster3742d ago (Edited 3742d ago )

But a PC can't play Xbox One exclusive games like Halo 5, X360 games like Red Dead Redemption and SFV on one system. ;)

4Sh0w3741d ago (Edited 3741d ago )

Well I don't know about Microsoft introducing a more powerful X1 at E3 as Rookie suggests but more integration is a definite.

"We already have one of those in our midst. It's called a PC."

-You are exactly right but why should that stop them from introducing a more streamlined hybrid console/pc IF that's what they intend to do?

I mean they keep making better cell phones with more and more features even though what we have now already works just fine, right?

Utalkin2me3742d ago

You mean a PC with Win10 playing PC and Xbox games. Its basically whats available now.

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Free_Fro3742d ago

That doesn't even sound right :D

Timesplitter143742d ago (Edited 3742d ago )

Wouldn't a "windows steambox" basically just be a pre-assembled regular PC? They'd use Windows so it's not like they're gonna have a different OS

But I like the idea of MS focusing entirely on PC gaming. It's like they finally realized all the potential it has

However, I gotta say I'm more interested in what Valve is doing for "PC gaming" in the long term. The Steam Machine is kind of a flop right now because of poor GPU driver support and limited games support, but considering Valve has been deeply involved in the development of Vulkan, and that they are making Source 2 available for free for eveyone, I'm sure it won't be too long until we start seeing Steam Machines picking up some.... steam

Pintheshadows3742d ago

Yeah, that is what I was thinking. A Steambox with Windows is just a PC.

Bobafret3742d ago

Steam Machines are also quite expensive in my view.

ninsigma3742d ago

Very possible. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. We don't know everything yet but it does seem moving forward xbox won't be a traditional console.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot32d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle32d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7732d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay33d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn234d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn233d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown33d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay33d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay33d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac33d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger34d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300034d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde34d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde33d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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Star Wars: Bounty Hunter Let Jango Fett Loose

LucasArts gave Jango Fett his own game in 2002, and it pulled Star Wars into a much dirtier, rougher, and more interesting corner of the galaxy.

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Relientk7737d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!