How did Destiny fail?? It still has such a large community playing the game every day. It's been non stop since it released almost a year and a half ago with updates, expansions and major improvements since then. Could it have been better at launch?? Of course. Are there still issues that need improving?? Big yes. But in no sense of the word has Destiny failed. Enough with the propaganda.

I've never played any game for more than a yr other than cs and day of defeat. Played destiny extensively for about 9mths and got more than my money's worth in game content and hrs played, I expect the division to be no different, 9mths of sheer value for money and enjoyment from the game, then the game will fizzl as I get bored once I've maxed out and got the gold weapons and armour of choice.

It will make sales and then slowly die a death.

I think it will be as popular as destiny, people from all sides of the pond will be interested in the division and there's nothing out around it's release to remotely contend with the game.

The division has a lot going for it, even the season pass is doing more than just dlc like supply drops, special and seasonal events like what wow,guild wars and rift do, this adds depth to the game when developers do this adding new quests, milestones, challanges for one of a kind loots or loot that you won't see till following year..

For console players at least the division is a little pocket of gold, since we don't get pc mmo's, so your average rpg fan would be crackers not to buy the division. The last game I remember that was like an mmo on console was phantasy star universe, neverwinter, neverwinter but they wernt tripple A games. Destiny wasn't anything remotely like an mmo it was so sociabley wrong it alienated solo players at near enough every turn, it also was sociably wrong for fact there was no way to communicate with anyone unless was in an xb1 party or sent a message, no in game voice com's in tower, no chat box, two very simple features that would.of helped Destiny to no end. the division gets everything rite what Activision bungie and destiny got wrong..

Destiny -as frustrating as a game can be- definitely has some of the most rewarding moments I have ever had in a game.

The Division lacks those moments and I'm afraid the game will end up being boring because of that.

I like the PvE of both games, but I like Division's PvP much much much better than Destiny's. Division's story and story presentation seem better so far but we'll see.

I like both games and will play both, though Division will get all my time for awhile.

I think The Division is going to be huge, personally.

Destiny didn't appeal to me till The Taken King, and I had to play $40 more for that combined with the $60 I spent the day it was released. Hopefully I won't be spending $100 on The Division.