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Console Graphics Comparison: Who Cares?

Mrs Nesbitt from GamersFTW writes: "When a new title comes out for both the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, you can guarantee there will be an article regarding graphics comparisons. This is not an attack on graphics specifically, but an attack on two current-gen consoles that looks exactly alike."

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gepugg3762d ago

It's like a console pissing contest, better graphics make people feel superior.

Eonjay3761d ago

It does but at the same price with most of the same library, get the better product. Its the only objective decision. Unless there is a specific game you need everything else is about your feelings.

ShadowKnight3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

Someone cares lol

dirkdady3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

I would argue that graphics, regardless of the degree of difference, plays a role in eventual console sales. Of course the games and services play a more significant role.i would venture to take it further and state that most technologists have a "keeping up with jones" mentality in that they want the better device even if it's .5" wider, % pixels more, 10lbs lighter, 20 horsepower more, etc.

Take it a step further - what does sales matter to gamers? It really doesn't until it starts impacting potential games that won't come to the system (initially). With ps4 almost 2:1 over Xbox, smaller devs like Ninja theory and Campo Santo just to name two out of hundreds can justify not releasing their game day in and day out along on the Xbox. It's just common sense in economies of scale and market opportunity costs.

Why o why3761d ago

If you cared last gen then what's the problem now.

If you didn't care last gen then 'as you were'

Simple. Graphics comparisons have been here since gaming begun. It will continue forever. Those now crying morality need to just suck it up unless they were saying the same thing last gen.

xHeavYx3761d ago

Last gen some people used to make a big deal about graphics, especially 3rd party games, and people from the other camp didn't like to talk about graphics (until a certain point)
Now the other camp can gloat about graphics, but the people who used to be so proud about 3rd party graphics are quiet, and disregard graphics.
And yeah, there are PC people too, but we don't care about those crazy guys.

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Utalkin2me3761d ago

What if someone is wanting the better performing multiplatform titles between the two consoles.

BattleAxe3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

I love nice graphics, but I'm currently playing through Rainbow Six Vegas again through Xbox One backwards compatibility, so graphics are not always the defining feature, especially when the differences with most new games between the two consoles are negligible at best.

If I really want to be delighted by graphics, I'll turn on my PC with an Intel i7 Quad Core, 24GB DDR3 RAM, and an overclocked Nvidia GTX 780 GPU.

If you buy an Xbox One, then you are probably someone who wants to play Halo, Gears, Forza and other exclusive games, and you probably like backwards compatibility. I think graphical differences, while they matter to some extent, they wont be the defining factor, otherwise Nintendo would be out of business by now.

Most PC gamers just laugh when console-only gamers fight over such small performance differences, because compared to my PC as an example, both the Xbox One and the PS4 are peanuts in terms of graphical power, but I still love gaming on consoles too. Just a different experience.

Kingthrash3603761d ago

If it's the difference between the two consoles then I care.
If I have 500 bucks gotta pick between two same priced consoles imma go with the one with the better engine under the hood.
But that's just me.
It's just funny how last gen this, sales and exclusives mattered....all out the door now. Now it's who cares about whatever xbox is behind in.

DLConspiracy3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

@Kingthrash

"It's just funny how last gen this, sales and exclusives mattered....all out the door now. Now it's who cares about whatever xbox is behind in."

So wouldn't both the people last gen and this gen be superior seeking insecure idiots? I think people who pulled that last gen are idiots. Same goes for the ones needing to spit on other gamers this gen to feel superior. They are all a bunch of "in your face" kids solely focused on console wars.

Just because people did it last gen doesn't make it OK for this gen. They are both using it to throw mud in the face of gamers. Then hide behind quality and graphics to justify constantly repeating it. Or hide behind "they did it last gen" as a reason.

Maybe both sides should shut it and stop playing the superior card. It looks pompous regardless of what Gen.

Dirkster_Dude3761d ago

size matters - in this case the smaller the better because if your pixels are smaller you have more of them on screen. I prefer to think about how you handle it rather than the size of your pixel thingies.

dantesparda3761d ago

"Console Graphics Comparison: Who Cares?"

I care, and want the better looking and better performing version (within the consoles not the PC, because I don't care to game on the PC as much). I own both systems and like to know which is the better version. And everybody cares about graphics, just look at how MS fanboys go on and on about how good the graphics are in games like Ryse, or ROTR, or Halo, or QB or basically anything that is on their system only. But then suddenly act like they don't matter when they are better on the other side. Its all just fake fanboy posturing. More phony fanboy nonsense.

Black0ut3761d ago

@all the people saying that it's justified to spit on the 'lesser' graphics this gen just because 'certain' people did it last gen: Grow up.

That's just a stupid excuse to be an immature fanboy. Not everyone spat on the PS3 last gen, as many try to make it sound like on these threads. I myself was too busy with my friends on 360 enjoying all the MP games to dive into ANY fanboy nonsense. I had friends that did the same on their PS3's and we all had fun.

Just think to yourselves, why be such a brat about puny insignificant graphical differences when there are far more important features to look at when choosing a console for the first time.

Cut the BS.

Black0ut3761d ago

Let me add to that and rephrase a little; Graphics do indeed matter, just not to the extent that some people push it to be. Especially when the differences are very small (yes, though different, lesser), there are more important aspects to think about if you're in the market for a console. Whatever floats your boat though.

GameNameFame3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

Ofc having Full HD matters.

What did I buy 65 inch HDTV for?

rainslacker3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

Graphics will not make a game great or bad. However, only a fool would say that graphics don't matter, because in the real world, even we look for great graphics, and the mainstream consumer definitely is attracted by shiny things.

I believe we(as in us forum types) can enjoy games without great graphics, however, I don't believe for one second that most people here...and certainly not as many as I see claim so in graphics articles...to actually care so little about graphics quality.

I've been gaming for 35 odd years now, and I've never once met a gamer who wasn't impressed or attracted to great graphics....not once.

KiwiViper853761d ago

The 360 owners who gloated about having better graphics, better exclusives and better sales... Now own a PS4, so they can continue to gloat.

miyamoto3761d ago

I just want to use my 2010 46" 1080p tv that is all. i am tired of it. So it matters to me.
been playing 720p since then. i need to see better graphics.

morganfell3761d ago

They write this article having previously published this:

http://www.gamersftw.co.uk/...

http://www.gamersftw.co.uk/...

Hypocrite much gamersftw?

k2d3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

"Everyone" cares about having the best graphics. As they should.

Problem is IQ of PS4 AND XO BOTH suck!

Hear me out: I'd rather devs make graphics that complement the artstyle, and that doesn't overreach.

MGSV is an example where they're actually good enough for the realistic look. And then there are a plethora of games that are not.

This is why I love the look of Nintendo games for Wii U. And why I hate the 3D artstyle of games for DS and 3DS, like for instance Pokémon and Final Fantasy.

Unspoken3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

@Why o Why

How do you get a "Well said" for such an immature stance on FX comparisons?

Life has been here forever too, doesn't mean that it won't evolve. Err, wait, this is N4G. :)

Seriously though, both perform near equal especially compared to other gaming platforms. Rather than spend time critiquing if it's fun and what features it could and should have, we complain if it doesn't have 5 more frames or 180 more horizontal lines than the other. It gets old essentially when the criticism is so basic and for an ego boost. If there was a drastic difference in graphics it might be worth the time and effort. If you want better graphics that bad, build a PC.

It was just as lame last gen as it is this gen. It's even lame in the PC world with AMD vs nVidia. Let's look at content and see if quality if being upheld.

bouzebbal3760d ago

i second this.
Graphic comparison is relevant, and even more relevant when we have games AND graphics..

Why o why3760d ago (Edited 3760d ago )

@unspoken

Maybe you just don't get it. These comparisons aren't new and the likelihood of them stopping is zero to none

I've clearly stated if you didn't care last gen then keep on not caring but those who relished in said comparisons shouldn't whine and act above it now the tables may have turned.

The trend I see is pc guys coming to the defence of x1 guys or x1 guys using pc like an older brother. Why is that. Why is it that when people celebrate better console graphics we're told to 'buy a pc' what's wrong with getting the best value for our money? Why weren't the pc crowd so upset last gen when multiplat superiority was championed as a reason to buy on a specific console. Two wrongs don't make a right but the hypocrisy deserves to get highlighted.

I would consider the notion of people NOT comparing graphics as a tad naive, quantifying the disparities as small just makes last gens chest beating by some all the more ridiculous and two faced as those differences were smaller. 'Blades of grass'

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wakeNbake3761d ago

I own both consoles so for muliplats the performance can be a deciding factor on which version to get.

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xXDerickXx3761d ago

I own both consoles to but in all honesty they are pretty much the same. Ps4 is more clean but (for me) seems to always drop in frame rate like crazy. I haven't had that problem with my Xbox. It's like the graphics are that much better then the Xbox but I guess it comes down to games, I prefer ps4 in single player based games and Xbox for multi-player. So depends on the type of person you are and what you like and shouldn't really be a console war only between those that are dumb fucks

WiiU-Dude3761d ago

I wish people would comment on what I'm about to say. Graphics are nice and yes I would say most of us would like what looks best, however, there is a point or problem I keep bringing up that almost no one comments on. PC people need not apply here.
My 3rd party system of choice is the XB1 over the PS4 for a VERY pragmatic reason...hard drive space.
I want to preface this with a couple things. I am 44 and own all systems back to then SNES. My first home console was Atari 5200. I still own all those systems. Second point, I KEEP my games. I have hundreds upon hundreds maybe well over a thousand games. I am NOT that person who buys, beats or gets bored, then trades or sells it. I keep them all. Third point, Sony has created the system I would choose if I could only choose one system - MY, I say my PS3 because I have the one that plays PS1, PS2, and of course PS3, not to mention wifi, rechargeable controllers, full card reader, and Blu Ray/DVD out of the box - this admission is important in a moment. This when as a company Nintendo holds my heart of hearts. Now onto my point.
XB1 has become my sole 3rd multiplat system because of the Hard Drive. Unlike the PS4, I can easily simply plug in an external drive and *poof* I instantly have more Hard Drive space. I bought the Xbox One with 1Tb and the Elite controller and have added a 5Tb external and my XB1 seamlessly sees the external and internal giving me nearly 6Tb for my games. My PS4 is quite different. It uses an external as sort of a bank, but we will get to that. Internally and officially Sony supports up to a 2Tb Hard Drive so I upgraded to that. Yes I have seen some fools on YouTube circumvent this by installing a larger drive, but then having to provide the drive with its own power source and drilled a hole in their casing to run the power into the hard drive - something I won't do.
Then of course there is the external 'bank' option. Nyko even sells one using that verbiage. But I am not interested when my internal fills up uninstalling and installing and then if I wish to play the game I uninstalled having to reinstall it again. That is just beyond stupid to me. I will take a slight hit graphically for the convenience of being able to play my games instantly after one install on my XB1.
I buy A LOT of games. Perhaps this will never be any one else's problem, but I know the days is coming so I have to ration my precious 2Tb Hard Drive for Sony exclusives and the XB1 is the beneficiary to Sony's stupidity in this area.
I added my admiration for the SONY PS3 in case someone wanted to accuse me of disliking Sony. Plus if you look at my name here it's 'WiiU-Dude' corroborating my claim to love Nintendo tops. Truth is I love all systems and that's why I called this a 'pragmatic' reason. I would relish a discussion on how others reconcile this dilemma. I really would. I can't believe it hasn't been cause for more backlash. You can love PS4 AND criticize Sony for this archaic stance. I hope and pray Sony addresses it actually!!

rigo85823761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

@xXDerickXx that is because in most cases the PS4 is 1080p and XB1 900p or dynamic resolution. When that is the case many times the XB1 has a more consistent frame rate over the PS4. Also the PS4's CPU is a little slower then then the XB1. So in areas were the CPU is the bottleneck the better performance is going to lean in favor of the XB1. The opposite is the case when it comes to the GPU, where is the PS4's GPU is more powerful then the XB1.

There has been several videos on digital foundry where the XB1 version is 900p but sustains its target framerate more then the PS4 at 1080p.

I have both consoles and honestly spotting the difference between them is difficult. So I've opted for the XB1 version of games. I like the controller better and I like achievements over trophies. I also like a more consistent frame rate over the increase in resolution.

Pongwater3761d ago

@WiiU-Dude - I buy a lot of games too, far more than anyone else I know, but I don't play them all simultaneously so they don't all need to be installed at one time. I'm doing just fine with my stock PS4's hard drive. If I need space I delete something I haven't played in awhile.

It's not a question of getting bored with a game, it's a question of "I finished this single player experience, I may or may not play it again in the future, and right now I have a new game (or two or three) that will be taking up my time, so why does this one I last played months ago need to be ready to go at a moment's notice?". If I want to play that game again I'll reinstall it.

I'm actually older than you, btw.

OT - Graphics comparisons seemed to matter last generation when the differences were smaller, so why wouldn't they matter now?

WiiU-Dude3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

@Pongwater - I wasn't only talking 'bored' with a game. I mean I like being able to instantly play whatever game, whenever I want to. I am in no way, shape or form interested in uninstalling and reinstalling games over and over. I want to be able to hop from game to game whenever I feel like it. Sony needs to address this.

WiiU-Dude3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

I'm still fascinated that this doesn't spur more discussion. I got 13 disagrees to only 2 agrees, yet only one person's says anything. I'm not looking for an argument. I'm looking for an alternate way to overcome this.

rainslacker3761d ago

@WiiU-Dude

I understand what you're saying, but logically, you have two choices for HD space. Buy an external hard drive to attach to an X1, or buy a 2.5" internal drive and install it in the PS4. Or even a third, use whatever is given to you.

X1 is more flexible, but I feel that the vast majority of people are capable of prioritizing what gets kept on the hard drive, and most people are not going to care if they have to delete a game off the HD that they haven't played in months to make room for another game. Sure, it's not as fluid as just plugging in an external, but I doubt the hard drive space is much of a consideration at all. Those who care about more space have options to increase it, and they will, but eventually, even with externals, one has to decide if they want to buy a 3rd hard drive, or just start deleting stuff they aren't using.

For every game I've deleted off my PS4, which actually hasn't been that many, I wasn't fussed about it, because I never went back to play it anyways. In any case, since I buy the retail versions, it's hardly a bother if I want to go back and play at a later date.

I'd rather have better graphics quality than have hundreds of games available at the push of a button, because the graphics quality is going to be more beneficial, and have a bigger difference on my experience than if I have to reinstall a game here or there.

Since I have both an X1 and a PS4, if X1 had better performance on games, then I'd play them on there. Since it mostly doesn't, I choose the PS4. If next gen, the tables are turned, and I opt for both, I'll play them on the X1, with the PS4 being for exclusives or games I get on the cheap. The storage space is the least of my concerns, so long as it is enough to install at least a few games, keep up with the updates, and have the apps I feel prudent to keep on the system. Right now, both systems provide that with the 500GB drive, but I will likely upgrade to a 2TB on the PS4 at some point or hold out for bigger drives, and I'll likely never buy an external for the X1, although I have some available should I deem it necessary.

WiiU-Dude3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

@rainslacker -
I thank you for your response, but I have to wonder if you read my post or skimmed it.

I have already upgraded my internal Hard Drive to my PS4. I stated that even at 2 Tb I still feel the need to ration my Hard Drive space for PS4 exclusives. I already mention that the PS4 allows for an external, but only to move an install from the internal to the external so I can have space to install my new game.

I understand that I am something of a rare breed in that I don't part with my games. There's a reason Gamestop, Amazon, eBay, Craigslist etc has so many used games available.

Apparently I am also in some tremendous minority in that I very much revisit older games. I do not play one until finished and cast aside. I juggle many. Regardless, it's ridiculous that Sony doesn't offer the 'option' of an External Hardrive that allows for seamless game streaming as opposed to only allowing for internal Hard Drive use.

I don't see how it is a preposterous request/demand that Sony accommodate this.

Contrary to most, again, I do not believe most multiplats are incredibly inferior on XB1. My worst experience actually just occurred. Maybe it's just me, but Project CARS sputtered terribly next to the PS4 version, but most every other multiplat has been plenty acceptable. I appreciate each gens graphical leap, however, I do not quibble over the marginal difference of XB1/PS4 unless, as in the case of Project CARS, it is VERY noticeable. PS2 was inferior to XBOX and GameCube, but people didn't seem to mind. I honestly do not understand this gens obsession with bashing the XB1. Anyway, I go into this because the convenience of just popping in my game and instantly going trumps the slight graphical difference.

I concede that apparently I'm of a near nonexistent minority that thinks Sony is being ridiculous in not supporting this. It's a single firmware update away and a possible OS tweak too.

If XB1 can do it, so can the mighty PS4.

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vegasgamerdawg3761d ago

Who cares? It's mostly little children who can't afford another platform and try to rationalize and exclaim to everyone, that their platform of choice is superior. When in reality it doesn't affect gameplay and whatever platform you choose is best, for you.

WiiU-Dude3761d ago

No you have plenty of immature adults arguing their system is superior.

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kenwonobi3761d ago

People buy 1080p tv for a reason. It's called value. Smart people just buy the better console. I mean since they have nearly all the same games. You just buy one then get Virtual Reality if you want variety or save for Nintendo NX. Right now Xbox vs PS4 is so similar it's easier to just choose the 1080p version like people do with televisions. They cost the same so it makes sense.

AngelicIceDiamond3761d ago

"Smart people just buy the better console."

At certain things yes. People by a PS4 over X1 for things the PS4 does better.

"if you want variety or save for Nintendo NX."

We barely know anything about the NX so what variety are you talking about? Since its Nintendo I'm sure we're gonna largely see Mario, Zelda, Kirby Star Fox again.

"Right now Xbox vs PS4 is so similar it's easier to just choose the 1080p version like people do with televisions."

someone might like X1's console exclusives games, BC compatibility, monthly updates, TV functionality, Stable Service/dedicated servers in all 1st party games, Elite Controller.

Hayabusa 1173761d ago

Yes, but we don't argue or complain when one version is less than 1080p, you just buy the one you want.

Unspoken3761d ago

You mixed smart with lazy. Everything you claimed is what a lazy person would do if they did limited research.

Value means something different to everyone.

Takwin3761d ago

I care about true exclusives, since I play multiplats on my beast PC. So, obviously anyone who feels that way would want PS4 and Wii U.

Christopher3761d ago

I like analyzing technology. That's about it.

Tsar4ever013761d ago

The only side that doesn't care is usually the side that looses the argument, which is THIS CASE, the xb1. Sony fans didn't care much about graphics last gen when the x360 beat them on the mulitplats.

So it swings both ways. It matters to those who are winning and doesn't matter to those are loosing. Nothing but a childish dick measuring contest, Senseless bragging rights game.

Bobafret3761d ago

So does this mean next gen we are even and we can stop all if this nonsense?

CartBlanche3761d ago

If you just have graphics and no gameplay that is is a total loss. While having gameplay and average graphics you have half a win.

Now, If you can have better graphics and a better game experience, then you are ahead of the curve. Uncharted 2 or Last of Us last gen showed you could have both. If you liked beat-em-ups God of War 3 showed again it was possible to looks outstanding and be fun to play.

Demon's Souls last gen was OK graphically, but it's gameplay was a cut above everything that was released last gen, IMO.

Depends what you want out of a game.

Hayabusa 1173761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

Thing is, it's also harmful to the industry, because devs have to spend a tone of time and money making pretty graphics and high production sound, while the gameplay is only average, then people wonder why they're not making the money back.

rainslacker3761d ago

Since before last gen, it was customary to make really high quality graphics, then scale them down to meet the specs of the hardware. This was cheaper than making low end graphics, then improving them, since scaling back can be done quite easily in a lot of cases using default photoshop tools. Scaling up requires more touch up.

Because of this, it's actually cheaper if the graphics can be better with less optimization to get them to an acceptable level.

Hayabusa 1173751d ago

@ Rainslacker

Sure, but it ins't just graphics resolution and poly count that I'm referring to, it's a fact that consumers (and subsequently publishers) care so much about PRESENTATION, that the devs spend ridiculous amounts of time and resources on the art content. This includes sound as well, where they hire Hollywood actors to do voice overs. Nothing wrong with an eye-poppingly beautiful game at all, just as long as it doesn't hold back gameplay, but from my experience, it does.

WelkinCole3761d ago

No

Graphics matter otherwise console gamers should still be playing the Atari.

If graphics don't matter then PC gamers would not keep upgrading their graphics card.

When I say graphics matter it does not mean that ONLY GRAPHICS MATTER.

Graphics is an important component to virtual worlds that games we play have. Its important for the immersion the same as the score, story, gameplay etc.

Those that say that graphics don't matter are only deluding themselves.

Persistantthug3761d ago

I think people need to stop trying to tell other people what should and should not be important to them.

Christopher3761d ago

Freedom of Thought shouldn't be important to you. Please conform.

zackdollars3761d ago

Graphics comparison is about frame rate and resolution. If you have a choice, you would choose the console that has better frame rates and resolutions.

3-4-53761d ago

Realistic graphics always look dated 4-5 years later.

A game with a good art style will look good and pleasing to look at for 10-15 years at least, sometimes even longer.

* I love the look of a lot of the games on Wii U.

They use colors that aren't muted, there is detail, it's appealing to look at and things are easily distinguishable from each other.

Sometimes with "realistic" graphics, things blur and blend together and look a bit messy and cluttered...like there is too much going on.

Yea sometimes realistic graphics are awesome, but at the expense of content and fun...I'll say pass.

* If developers focused on art style, these games would be smaller in size ( GB), contain more contend, be visually pleasing to look at, and be a lot faster to make = we get more games per gen.

Also the Framrates would be better because they wouldn't be pushing so many polygons.

BigLurch3761d ago

Its funny how graphics didnt matter to Sony fanboys last gen,but now they'll happily buy the machine with better graphics but poorer exclusives and tell the world how awesome an extremely slight bump in resolution is.
The only thing that hasnt changed since last gen is that those Sony fans are still a bit nutty at best lol

Idiedgoodbye3761d ago

Backward's Compatibility breaks this argument, Next!

TrollsBringer3760d ago

Graphics always matter unless PC is involved. Ironiy at its best.

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Shillmeister3762d ago

Who cares? People that are sad fanboys. Enjoy the game for what it is, how it plays, story, gameplay, and all the more important stuff!

There's a reason there's a lasting love for games like Spyro (original stuff not that Skylanders nonsense), Crash Bandicoot, Psychonauts, Half Life, etc, and it wasn't graphics, especially when you look back on them from this day and age!

thekhurg3761d ago

Nobody has ever said that gameplay/story don't matter. This is a stupid argument because people like you assume that those that care about graphical differences/comparisons somehow don't care if the game is actually good.

Those comparisons don't exist, because developers don't realize a good version of the game with the full story on one platform and then remove all of the story from another platform. It's absurd.

Maple223762d ago

I agree, it should be about the game content rather than how it looks. It's almost a given these days that games will look pretty. I think these comparison things only matter if there is a huuuuge difference between the two, which to be honest is rare.

JackBNimble3761d ago

No, it should be content, performance, and graphics, It all matters.

rainslacker3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

In principal for game play and game quality you're right.

But with comparisons, those things are typically equal, with the only thing left to measure being the performance of the game itself....which would include graphic fidelity and frame rate.

Since comparing the two gives people the opportunity to see which is better, it has it's place. However, I do think the magnitude of importance between two content identical products gets blown way out of proportion within the discussion threads.

Some people seem to take great offense at one version being better, and they seem to fall back on "it's the game that's important", instead of actually just not taking it personally and accepting that one version runs better than the other, so people playing the better version are going to be able to enjoy that aspect of the game a little better. Granted, it would help if the "winner" performance wise didn't have fans which antagonize users of the lesser version, but that's a different topic I suppose.

ninsigma3761d ago

The differences are usually quite negligible so they don't matter and core gamers choose based on exclusives generally so graphics aren't going to change ones mind there. Only time it would really matter is for those who would only play the likes of cod or fifa and don't have a huge interest in exclusives. At that point I can see why someone would wanna know which graphically performs better.

rainslacker3761d ago

Should only really matter to owners of both consoles who want to play the best version of the game...assuming all other things are equal.

The comparisons can have some effect on people who are looking at getting a console, as graphics performance tends to be rather high on the scale of what people look for in a console. Even exclusives probably have less influence on the mainstream than graphic ability, as good graphics tend to be indicative of more power.

I know the most powerful console winning a generation is a rather rare occurrence, however, within the gens where the weaker console reigns, you can look at other factors why it became the console of choice. Since last gen, with PS3 and 360 being somewhat equal in raw specs, and this gen both consoles being close to identical outside of some more GPU power on the PS4(sans other benefits to one or the other), I think the comparisons have more weight to show what a system is capable of, or at least what it's doing so far.

Truth is, graphics matter to people. Great looking games sell well, even if they're complete crap. Companies know this, but they also know that they can't make a lasting IP to maximize long term returns by putting out crap games, so they starting trying to go more towards game play while making the graphics acceptable. One need look no further than indie games to see this working in practice. Indie games typically have simplistic art styles which don't push graphics heavily. Because of this, most people think of them as lesser games.

UltraNova3761d ago

"Console Graphics Comparison: Who Cares?"

Let me think...far too many people like you who need click revenue! Why do you care so much on calling them out?

OB1Biker3761d ago (Edited 3761d ago )

Haha must be some truth in that.
Tbh. I think A LOT of these comparisons are BS either because of incompetence or for some agenda and most of the time just for clicks (ex: gamingbolt, IGN and many others)
I must admit though that proper graphics analysis can be very interesting specially for people like me who are not particularly educated in that matter and I think DF or NXGAMER for example.

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darthv7242d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY42d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator42d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum42d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z42d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad43d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga43d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot42d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose43d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE43d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername42d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy43d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde43d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8642d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8642d ago (Edited 42d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole43d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300043d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot43d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle43d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7743d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments