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Microsoft Was Afraid XBLA Would 'Completely Destroy' Console Industry

According to XBLA's creator, Microsoft was concerned the online platform would cannibalize the retail market and spell the end for consoles.

stuna13773d ago

But yet they went ahead with their plan!? This is a prime example of learning when to keep your mouth shut!

Before someone jumps in and says Bu Bu but it didn't; realize if there's potential to cause irreparable damage to something or someone, the logical course of action would be to find another way!? Supposedly they did destroy the console industry? What would we be doing now, looking back reminiscing on how things used to be or, could of been!?

This is a contributing factor as to why so many are mistrustful of Microsoft in the Console Gaming space! Because they are willing to take gambles to the detriment of Gamers/Gaming to satisfy their own selfserving purpose! And this is what is what the determining difference is between them, Sony and Nintendo.

OoglyBoogly3772d ago

"But yet they went ahead with their plan!? This is a prime example of learning when to keep your mouth shut!"

This.

thekhurg3771d ago

It obviously didn't "destroy" the industry, but their practices after entering the console industry have, for the most part, made console gaming worse than it was before.

They spear-headed buying game exclusivity and making it an industry standard practice. There were always console exclusive games in the past, but they were largely exclusive not because of a check that was written to keep it off competitors, and more so wasn't available because of media storage differences and other hardware problems since Nintendo was so hesitant to push towards disc media for so long.

They brought about paid online gaming for peer to peer connections. Which is a terrible practice and Microsoft/Sony should be ashamed of themselves for charging us for that.

They helped to push micro-transactions and pushed things to the dismal state they're in now.

Obviously we have no idea what the industry would be like NOW had they never entered, but those three things that they made "acceptable" are terrible practices.

GorillaSceptre3772d ago (Edited 3772d ago )

Way to take something out of context and completely blow it out of proportion.. If you watch the video he heavily implies that, it was more the external forces, aka Gamestop and big publishers that were worried about it cannibalizing retail, and that in turn would turn them away from supporting xbox. It's obvious he meant it could destroy their console.

"What would we be doing now, looking back reminiscing on how things used to be or, could of been!?"

"And this is what is what the determining difference is between them, Sony and Nintendo."

What the? XBLA and Steam(the latter far more so) have made it possible for indies to exist in a meaningful way, in particular small studios. But that is why so many are "mistrustful of Microsoft"? So now that Sony has jumped on the indie bandwagon and have been called the saviors of gaming for it, i assume that's perfectly fine?

Funny how you separate 3 greedy corporation as if they are any different from each other.. I'd love an alternate reality where Sony is alone in the console space, then we'll see just how selfless they really are.

How can you lump Nintendo in with Sony? Out of all three of them Sony is by far the least innovative, they always do what's "safe". Nintendo is unparalleled in it's contributions to gaming, but MS has made it's fair share of contributions too, even back to the Dreamcast. I literally can't think of one thing Sony did first or created themselves.

stuna13772d ago

Just one question to you, how many original Xbox's were sold!? I'll answer that for you 25 million! So again how where they oh so concerned about killing the Xbox when they in fact did it themselves? Microsoft wanted to control the living room through their online service. In fact that vision is still alive and kicking through another vehicle of transport, Windows 10!

Microsoft preys upon the gullible! They put up with a competitor as long as it's conducive to their overall goal, but any interference is usually dealt with in a hostile manner. Read up on it, there are literally thousands of cases.

Although the industry didn't bite the bullet this time, thank goodness there's still plenty of time available for future opportunities to present themselves /s

GorillaSceptre3772d ago (Edited 3772d ago )

@Muzikguy

I wasn't talking about tech outside of gaming, because then obviously none of the manufacturers would be credited with anything at all. I was talking about the technologies in gaming.

Even in the context of gaming, Sony didn't bring any of those things you listed first. Nintendo and Sega would be credited with most, and MS a few things here and there. Sony didn't invent VR either.. Nor will PSVR be first to market, that's going to be the Rift. So no, PSVR is not a first.

I'm not just saying Sony hasn't brought anything into gaming to be a troll, I just can't find any, and evidently, neither can you.

All of that was irrelevant anyway, the point i was trying to make in my original post was why Sony is separated from MS as if they are any different? They are both in it for the money, they have both used their size to intimidate and bully smaller companies, like what happened to Nintendo. They both have bought their studios, ND included, and they have both used anti-consumer practices. I'm just wondering where "Sony are the good guys" comes from. Either way, I'm just happy I'm on PC..

@stuna1

Honestly, your post is full of fanboy-like ranting. You answered the one coherent question you asked me..

curtis923772d ago

I think the point is that initially there were fears of this but as they talked through it they felt confident it wouldn't. Do you really think they would've if they felt it could very well ruin consoles?

mac_sparrow3772d ago (Edited 3772d ago )

Their main goal is to have a windows box in every front room, so if that meant killing off the console industry I'm sure they'd do it as it would get rid of competitors.

However, they seem to have realised that consoles can be a driving force for adoption rates of their services, hence the focus now on unifying their platforms.

This is not a dig or slight, it's a clever strategy, but gaming has always been a trojan horse for Ms, look at dx12's windows 10 exclusivity.

Anyway, had it happened it wouldn't have been the first case of disruptive technology closing something down.

Muzikguy3772d ago (Edited 3772d ago )

It's so typical of a company to come out and say stuff like this after so much time has passed. It's all lies. He's just trying to make themselves look good. As of they're actually "thinking" about what could have been after all this time lol.

@stuna
I agree. That's my biggest thing against Microsoft. They don't seem to ever think about what they're doing. They just want money. I mean, many other companies and people are only about money too, but yeah. Still doesn't make it right.

@Gorilla

Umm..... CD as a storage medium, DVD as a storage medium, BDR as a storage medium, free online, music player as well as game player, hdmi out of the box, wifi enabled, 2 joysticks, wireless/rechargeable controllers, PSVR, and tons more.... There's a lot of stuff Sony have done to contribute to gaming. I'm not sure why you seem to think there's nothing. Hell, EVERYONE takes from others and expands on it.

GorillaSceptre3772d ago (Edited 3772d ago )

Yes everyone takes and improves, that was actually my point. That is Sony's MO, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Literally none of the things you listed, did Sony do first, or invent.

Muzikguy3772d ago

For gaming those things were more a less a first. What people have to realize is you can only have so many "firsts". After that things just recycle. Look at clothes, shoes, cars, houses, food.... There all just expanded upon. Technology allows for more new things all the time, but even in that field there's only room for so many "firsts". And yes, PSVR is a first. You'll see, MS will be forced into the VR space next generation probably as well. We'll probably hear people screaming praises of this new tech when PSVR will have already been out. Just another point that they all do this stuff

I suppose MS invented a lot? Because dedicated servers weren't new when OGXbox came out, broadband wasn't new, battery operated controllers weren't new, integrated hard drives weren't new. I'm not trying to argue. I like where gaming is heading right now. Well, aside from the half assed games and DLC ridden stuff and lies from companies about their products. Aside from all that, it's good to be a gamer 😊️

Caedus5113772d ago

GillaScepter took the words out of my mouth.

Phillips invented CDs as a storage medium. Toshiba invented DVD.

PC utilized these mediums for gaming long before Sony. Although Sony did invent Blu-ray, but not for gaming initially.

PC had free online before Sony ever made a console.

Wireless/rechargeable controllers were made by third parties long before Sony put them out.

PSVR only exists because of VR work being done by other companies first, have you heard of occulus rift?

2 joysticks goes to Sony as far as I know, but let's be honest, the joystick placement on the dualshock controllers was poorly made. Oh, and Nintendo had the first analog stick in gaming.

Sony adopts best practices and often improves them. However claiming Sony is the innovator behind all of modern gaming's greatness is fanboy gibberish.

Gorilla_Killa_X3772d ago

The playstation brought USB to consoles, they brought Bluetooth to consoles, they brought camera to consoles, they brought high Def a large Blu-ray, they were first to use hdmi in a console.
And quite frankly Microsoft has never innovated anything. Ever! They steal or buy everything and pass it off as theirs.

Gorilla_Killa_X3772d ago

I take that back Microsoft did innovate the pay to play online feature that both major consoles use now. So bravo for that.

Muzikguy3772d ago (Edited 3772d ago )

Nowhere did I say anything remotely close to "Sony is the innovator behind all of modern gaming's greatness". Sony has been working on the whole VR thing for just as long as Oculus Rift has been worked on. Yes I've heard of it. So because it comes out first, all of a sudden PSVR wasn't a "thing", because another company beat them to launch? Ever since the Move they've been working towards this. Even back in the 90s they had something for a game called Mechwarrior2. Ever heard of that? This isn't a match between who did what first and whose d!ck is bigger. My only point on that matter was that Sony has done a lot for gaming. I haven't heard any retort as to all that Microsoft has done. You drive a car do you not? What company made it? You know many companies for over 100 years made cars before yours? So would you say that your car sucks then? Take what's available and use it. No harm in that. Also further proving my point that there can only be so many "firsts"

@Gorilla_Killa
Yes all that and more. Apparently it doesn't matter though because Sony didn't CREATE cameras, USB, or Bluetooth :/

@GorillaS
I understand that. Companies don't make things like what you're saying strictly for home gaming consoles. That stuff takes more money and resources, and frankly, I'd MUCH rather have consoles use proprietary stuff. Pro stick duo? Lol. That's what tends to happen when companies make their own stuff. People get angry because it's not cheap enough for them. I'm still saying PSVR is a first. By what you're saying Oculus Rift isn't either because Virtual Boy was out long ago. This is Sony's thing they've done a lot of r&d for. The eyetoy on PS2 and the Move were just steps to get here. You know, like evolution. OR uses some things, PSVR uses others. One has better resolution, one has better refresh rate. It's all just a bunch of finger pointing of you ask me. Both are good things to come this year and for the future of gaming

TripleCs3772d ago

@caedus511

I agree with SOME of the things you said but you are wrong about some things.

1. Philips AND Sony created the compact disc so Sony did invent it. Along with Phillips, Sony is part of the reason the disc format exists today. In your rush to discredit Sony you seem to have overlooked that.

2. Nintendo didn't create the joystick. Atari did from what I remember. The Atari 2600 had a joystick and the Atari 2600 came out before Nintendo even had a home console.

3. Sony didn't invent the joystick but they sure as hell improved on it by putting dual analog sticks onto their controllers but not only was Sony the first to include dual analog sticks on their controllers; Sony was also the first to include 2 extra shoulder buttons onto their controllers hence R2 and L2.

4. "However claiming Sony is the innovator behind all of gaming's greatness is fanboy gibberish". Yep, it is childish. I'm with you on that but at the same time; acting like Sony didn't innovate on anything like you and GorillaSpectre are doing is also childish as well, no?

BillytheBarbarian3771d ago

Sony used shapes for button commands insteadof letters for people that couldn't read too...Sony is awesome

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Azzanation3772d ago

@stuna1
Learn to read the article or shut your mouth.

Don't take things to seriously next time. Geez its just video game market not the department of military strategy planning and operations.

nosferatuzodd3771d ago (Edited 3771d ago )

what do you expect you think these company's care about anyone or anything < they are a bunch of corporate suits who will destroy the world if they of to to make a
profit for their investors.

They don't give a damn about the gaming industry or you guys,they'll destroy it if its profitable and move on to whats else is profitable if you know anything about Micro$oft you know that they watch what others do and then jump in, Money is all they care about nothing less nothing more

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DragonDDark3772d ago

Well, if Sony and Nintendo follow this plan, Consoles would just be useless. Which is why lots of people are doubting this choice.

I don't see why I should buy an XB1 right now because almost all of its exclusives are on PC. So this thing MS is doing pretty much helped me not go and buy an XB1. Yay for me.

GorillaSceptre3772d ago

Are you on the right article? Lol.

They all did follow "this plan",it's an online store.. Consoles would be useless? What are you even talking about..

ShottyatLaw3772d ago

This comment section summarizes N4G quite well.

Azzanation3772d ago

So what do you do when there are those XB1 games that are not on PC?

DragonDDark3772d ago

Only 4 or less = Never
5 to 7 = hmm
8+ = YESSS

DigitalRaptor3771d ago

So about 3 or 4 of them? Okay.....

Azzanation3771d ago

Lets say the best Racing next gen Racing game and the best FPS MP game? Quality over quantity. I own both a PC and XB1 and its strange I still use me XB1 just as much. Rare's Replay and the MCC collection alone are worth a purchase.

DragonbornZ3772d ago

Nah don't worry about it MS. Just bring. That. Shit. Back!
Had loads of fun trying out games back then and got me to discover some great games like Avatar Ninja and the impossible game.

GorillaSceptre3772d ago

There's no need to bring it back, the online stores from Sony, Ms, and Nintendo are all an evolution of what Steam and XBLA were. Essentially a digital distribution platform.

OC_MurphysLaw3772d ago

Actually I would prefer they bring it back moddified. I absolutely loved the mandate of all XBLA games needed a trial and feel its one of the biggest failings of the indie scene these days. I think it would be lesson 101 for any self published games ...demos help convert to sales unless what you are putting out is pure garbage.

-Foxtrot3772d ago

Really? Yet their original Xbox One vision

"This is GREAT, gamers will love this"

Caedus5113772d ago

The article and video have nothing to do with Xbox One. It's about XBLA, which was a 360 thing.

When you make comments like that it's obvious you're just trolling.

-Foxtrot3772d ago

Yeah yeah throw that word around out of context...just makes you look silly

Caedus5113772d ago

@Foxtrot your entire comment was out of context for this article. What does that make you look like?

DarXyde3772d ago

Stuna1 tookthe words orout of my post. I was just about to mention that, despite their fears, they did it anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I liked XBLA, but if they had any real concerns, they never would have done it.

stuna13772d ago (Edited 3772d ago )

The reason there was no concern on their part is.... in essence the ball would have been in their court, and they would have truly had the power to dictate the course of the gaming industry! Not only when it came to consoles, but in many regards the direction that PC gaming was moving in.

They truly would have won the Living room space in that moment in time, but to what effect!? With thinking like "Microsoft was afraid XBLA would 'Completely destroy' Console Industry!" the industry we know now would be far different with Microsoft at the helm.

We can say when reflecting in hindsight, that Microsoft competing with Sony and Nintendo these past 3 generations has in fact been good for Microsoft by affording them a level of maturity that they might not otherwise have had.

darthv723772d ago

Stuna may have taken the words out of your mouth but they were also totally out of context to begin with. So now, do you really want to be associated with someone who would not only make themselves look bad but anyone else as well????

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio50d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing50d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9250d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit50d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing50d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9250d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma51d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay50d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran850d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger50d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac51d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2350d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Steam Controller (2026) review

Second time's the charm.

cl198351d ago (Edited 51d ago )

Seams like a nice controller

Reaper22_50d ago

Two analog sticks acrossvftom each other is a no go.When will everyone learn.