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Is it time for a PS4 SSD upgrade?

Digital Foundry:
The worth of an SSD upgrade mostly boils down to which games you play. It's a winner for a Bloodborne fan, where the cumulative time spent looking at loading screens can certainly add up by the end - and every saving helps. But for titles where quick restarts are on hand (such as Metal Gear Solid 5), the value of an SSD upgrade is lessened somewhat. But even here, we do shave seconds off the clock when booting into a mission, almost halving the process of a stock drive.

To put these stats into perspective, loading times across all six games tally up to 15 minutes and 50 seconds on a stock PS4 drive. By comparison, an SSD jumps through all the very same hoops in just 11 minutes, 10 seconds overall. The savings on a solid state drive can't be questioned here, but the idea of cumulative gains is an interesting one - an upgrade that means we cut 28.6 per cent of the wait across a breadth of titles in our library. The length and frequency of loading times varies per game, but it's something that clearly tallies up over the course of a year.

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bradleejones3771d ago

Newegg has a 500gb Samsung SSD for $159 right now. Pretty good price. I'll stick with my 1tb, personally, but $159 is a steal for someone looking to upgrade.

kraenk123770d ago (Edited 3770d ago )

500 is way too small. BTW didn't countless tests result in the fact that a pure SSD is nonsense for the PS4 and you're better of with a much cheaper Hybrid Drive because the difference in speed is negligable?!

AndrewLB3770d ago

A pointless waste of money considering the PS4 only has SATA-II which is a huge bottleneck for modern SSD drives.

Check out the performance benchmarks here: http://www.tomshardware.com...

BISHOP-BRASIL3771d ago

Would it? With PS4 Sata II port bottlenecking it? Not even if Sony were to allow external drives, USB 3.0 to Sata III loose so much speed that you'll fall back to Sata II speeds anyway...

Also, cconsoles right now won't even work well with MLC (much less with cheap TLC Nand SSDs like the one Bradleejones sugested, those will be bad blocks city in no time) because they rewrite too much, SSDs can't rewrite indefinetely like HDDs, which means the storage will "shrink" over time (actually, it will first take space from reserve, taking a hit on speed operation to keep the storage size, only to eventually fade away or burnout, depending on the software in the drive still being capable to read what's left). The only option that could really work well with consoles right now would be SLC, but it simply cost too much (while MLC had just reached under 1$/GB consistently last year, SLC is still above 10$/GB, or around 350 USD for a 32GB SSD).

I got a 2TB HDD so I don't have to deal with erasing and reinstalling stuff, I don't want to invest big money in a "downgrade" (because let's face it, even if I were still at 500GB, a 500 GB Standard MLC SSD cost almost the same as a PS4 itself, you're not putting 500GB in there unless you're filth rich, into which case more power to you, but that's just not my scenario) or even a new console (in case, somehow, defying all logic, Sony make a new PS4 model with Sata III port and SSD out of the gate) only so I may have to replace that pricey storage in 18 months because it was overtaken by bad blocks. No thank you, I can wait for PS5 or whatever next gen brings, hopefully with a smarter console that can manage rewriting properly for limited re-use flash memory and by a time the standard MLC SSDs with big enough size don't cost me a kidney.

tee_bag2423771d ago

SSD's would be such a waste at Sata 2 speeds. The internal 2tb HDD upgrade makes more sense.

k2d3771d ago

The price rises pretty steeply from hybrid to full SSD. Not worth it IMO.

pivotplease3771d ago

Not once for a console. Unless money is actually not real for you and you're looking for places to stuff it besides the closest garbage bin.

ThanatosDMC3771d ago

2tb is just $77 on newegg. Buy the seagate backup plus 2tb external hdd. Easy to pry open and just swap it out. Lots of youtube videos for installation tutorial for it.

Corpser3771d ago

That's not a ssd lol, 2tb ssd costs $600

tee_bag2423771d ago (Edited 3771d ago )

Don't be a dope.. He's talking about the 2tb HDD..not SSD
Learn to read.

Revvin3771d ago

There just isn't enough of a performance increase to justify the cost of a 2TB SSD, I'll stick with my 2TB conventional HDD for now.

Unspoken3771d ago

2TB SSHD is worth it though.

kraenk123770d ago

The middleground...a hybrid drive, is most sensible imho.

PersonMan3771d ago

I've had an SSD in my PS4 and there's almost no difference besides loading times. In fact, pop-in is exactly the same as well as texture streaming (in most cases, not all), but I would say a 5400RPM drive is perfectly fine for consoles. That's what devs optimize on after all.

SonyMontana3771d ago

Lmao the only thing a more powerful hdd or ssd will do is speed loading times. It will not help with textures and pop ins. That's not how 99% percent of games are written to utilize system hardware.

PersonMan3770d ago

That's what I just said. It's not worth it to have an SSD in your PS4 because the games are not made to take advantage of the speed of an SSD

teo723771d ago (Edited 3771d ago )

After I upgraded to SSD. Fallout 4 loads locations a lot faster. Very happy with the upgrade

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Sony Pictures Produces Animated Film of Bloodborne Game

Sony Pictures announced at CinemaCon on Monday that it is producing an animated R-rated film adaptation of FromSoftware's Bloodborne game. PlayStation Productions, Lyrical Animation, and YouTuber jacksepticeye (Seán McLoughlin) are producing the film, with Sony Pictures and Lyrical Animation parent company Lyrical Media co-financing the film.

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Yui_Suzumiya38d ago

Anything but a sequel or remaster I suppose.

CantThinkOfAUsername37d ago

Hopefully this will renew interest in the franchise and Sony can see the potential.

jznrpg37d ago

I’m sure for a sequel they would want to get Miyazaki for it and he’s a busy person, They could do it without him but he wouldn’t be happy with that and I doubt they want to upset him. Hopefully it lines up with his schedule. Who knows they could be working on it now but I won’t get my hopes up until something is announced.

Lionsguard36d ago

At this point, I'm expecting Sony to endorse Yaoi fan-fic before they even entertain the idea of a remaster or sequel or even just a PS5 upgrade.

gerbintosh36d ago

You must have missed the story where FromSoftware stated they do not want to make a sequel or remaster of Bloodborne.

But then again, maybe Sony should force them to remaster the game because people who are forced to do things they dont like always put their best effort in. /s

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-Foxtrot38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

So FromSoftware really went

“F*** no are Bluepoint making a remake”

To

“A YouTuber making an animated film? Of course”

Redgrave37d ago

Say what you will about Jacksepticeye's involvement, but I suppose it comes down to how much creative freedom he has in making it.

Iron Lung, while not exactly in the same conversation as Bloodborne, was a perfectly serviceable and quite well made adaptation made by a YouTuber.

Jack at least understands the fan base and such so if he doesn't experience too much corporate interference or what you may call it, it could turn out pretty good.

MrBaskerville36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

Wasn't it Markiplier that made Iron Lung?

And there's more to filmmaking and storytelling than understanding a fanbase. I want a good movie. Maybe he can do it, maybe he can't, we'll see. But i expect nothing.

Tapani37d ago

What are you on about? Sony owns the IP, not FromSoftware. They have zero say in what is done with Bloodborne.

-Foxtrot36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

No but it’s been said how they apparently didn’t want Bluepoint touching the game and Sony respecting their wishes

Michiel198936d ago

oh the youtuber/streamer hate is back, i knew it before i read the comments.So fucking pathetic, acting like they aren't humans and can't do anything right.

-Foxtrot36d ago

Lmao. Ooooft. Touched a nerve 😂

Michiel198936d ago

not really, its just that the same old tale gets repeated and repeated by a bunch people who have contributed nothing to the gaming industry and just mindlessly hate someone else who is actually trying to do something cool, but it can't be because they're a streamer/youtuber in your twisted mind.

-Foxtrot36d ago

Producing a film still puts you in the driving seat, you are responsible for so many things including picking the director, writer and the entire team to make it.

Making / producing, regardless, it’s still a big role.

gold_drake36d ago

to be fair, hes not making it per se.

and i guess hes a good fit for it, given how big of a fan he is

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Sheffield says "[A new Bloodborne game won't] happen unless From Soft decides they want to do it"

Brandon writes: "I could find you 10 companies that have pitched a bloodborne sequel, spinoff, or remake, including my own. It's just not going to happen unless fromsoft decides they want to do it."

Benjaminkno79d ago

Everyone was criticizing Sony for not pushing for the BB remake. Turns out they gave it the green light. The original still holds up really well

STARS79d ago

Man this just fucking sucks, I respect Miyazaki and Shohida's wishes, but Bluepoint would have been the perfect studio to take on a project like a Bloodborne remake. It's still an absolute masterpiece, but the performance and frame pacing could easily be solved on the current hardware now.

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Bluepoint pitched a Bloodborne remake, but FromSoftware turned it down, not Sony

Just days after Sony decided to close remake masters Bluepoint Games, a new report claims that wasn't PlayStation itself that stonewalled the idea of a Bloodborne remake by Bluepoint, but developer FromSoftware.

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BABY-JEDI81d ago

Sony should have proceeded with Bluepoint remaking Bloodbourne. Or even had the sense to get Bluepoint to make a sequel to Demons Souls. Through the broken Giants gate. It was all thereto build upon.
Idiots

Lexreborn281d ago

The more information that comes out, it keeps seeming like the studio really was just relying on redoing other people’s work. If they would’ve just had a team working on an original product aside from remaking bloodborne, a god of war game THEY admitted they just couldn’t get off the ground.

They would’ve had more staying power, clearly they were to dependent on being a port and remake company. And last I remember EVERYONE hates Sony for constantly remaking and re-releasing games. Then they also hate Sony for GaaS. But, Sony stops investing in. Both and pivot and they are terrible right?

neutralgamer199281d ago

And what is wrong with that again this industry is full of remasters and remakes and they were the best at it Sony has so many dormant IPS they could have used

You make it sound like remakes and remasters are a bad thing when the industries full of them Sony themselves have remade The Last of Us just this generation

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Chard81d ago

“You make it sound like remakes and remasters are a bad thing”

They are

“when the industries full of them Sony themselves have remade The Last of Us just this generation”

That’s bad

Christopher81d ago

There's a plethora of PS3 games that could do with being remade. inFamous series, MotorStorm series, Resistance series, all the PS Eye games w/VR updates, Heavenly Sword, Haze, Killzone series, LBP series, White Knight chronicles, Warhawk. Lots of good things just on PS3 that could be remade for modern consoles and ensure forward compatibility.

Lexreborn281d ago

All of those games can and probably will be remade in-house and with updates that the original developers want to add to them. Just how the GoW Remake is being done in house with upgraded mechanics.

We gotta stop pretending like this was some type of only Bluepoint could do it. If they could, then they would’ve had the green light.

People are so quick to blame the head as the only issue. But just like with Scalebound, perfect dark and several other games that were promised. The devs bit off more then they could chew. And in a sea of complaints of half baked games, decisions like this are sometimes necessary.

Christopher81d ago

***All of those games can and probably will be remade in-house and with updates that the original developers want to add to them.***

(x) Doubt

Lexreborn281d ago

@christopher

Not sure how you can doubt when give an example. But okay, that’s you

Christopher81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

1. It's a remake, not a remaster.
2. The other games have already been remastered before BluePoint even joined Sony.
3. BluePoint has been with Sony since 2021 after doing Demon's Souls and did zero remake jobs since there but helped Sony Santa Monica with Ragnarok and didn't succeed on a GoW Live Service game. That's five years of potential not utilized.
4. If Sony didn't use them during those 5 years to do a single remaster, I highly doubt Sony wants the other studios to focus on doing as such when they could instead focus on new games and IPs.

Lexreborn281d ago

They literally remade shadow of the colossus and demon souls. And still to my point, if Sony Santa Monica is Remaking their own game franchise. Miyazaki stated he would rather do the remake for bloodborne. What makes you think other companies with the umbrella wouldn’t want to remake killzone, infamous and the rest themselves.

If you worked for a company for 5 years, had no original ideas. Failed at the project that was given to you. And your last ditch effort STILL relied on someone else’s work/IP. Why would you expect to keep your job?

That makes no sense and this is literally the most forced hate I’ve seen to date.

Christopher81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

***They literally remade shadow of the colossus and demon souls.***

Before Sony bought them. And afterwards? Again, **NOTHING** since purchase in 2021. NOTHING. Five years of nothing.

***What makes you think other companies with the umbrella wouldn’t want to remake killzone, infamous and the rest themselves***

Because if they did, it would be done by now. Santa Monica wanted it with GoW. It's done. They did it last generation. Now, they want to completely remake the first 3 games, not just remaster? Sony is letting them.

Why are they able to do these things but not others? Because they want to do them. Pretty sure Sucker Punch is the golden child of Sony right now. If they wanted to remaster/remake inFamous, Sony would not say no as long as they pump out Ghost games every 3-4 years.

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Michiel198981d ago

BECAUSE SONY FORCED A GAAS GAME ON A STUDIO NOT EQUIPPED FOR IT, OFCOURSE THEY CANT DO IT YOU DUMB FUCKING CUNT. God you're the grossest sony pony i've seen in a while, anything but blame daddy sony or you're a retard, I'm not sure yet. You thinking that Epstein is the godfather of mtx makes me lean to the latter.

Lexreborn280d ago

Sounds more like you don’t like a stranger on the internet the. The topic of actual business practices. You also see to have a weird vendetta from me FACTUALLY stating Epstein influenced MTX with activision.

Maybe you need a nap if you think me saying a company that hasn’t made a SINGLE product except someone else’s work may have dug their own grave. But, hey must be a Sony pony for thinking about the whole situation and not just rage bait headlines saying things like Sony made a mistake closing a port company.

Seek help seriously

shinXseijuro81d ago

Seems pretty clear that they’re focused on moving foward and giving us new games ? Sure they can do bloodborn but why go back if it’s already great ?

BABY-JEDI81d ago

Every sequel builds upon the successes of previous games. Bluepoint had many games they rebuilt. In which they could have developed sequels to. Sony & Bluepoint should have seen the obvious in front of their eyes. The base assets were all already built. This is an example of severe Managerial failure

shinXseijuro81d ago

Tbh I doubt fromsoftware needs anyone to rebuild a game for them … having to share profits etc . I’m sure they can release it on their own when the timing is right .

Chard81d ago

Ridiculous. That would be like the Foo Fighters trusting a cover band to create their next album, or like George RR Martin trusting the game of thrones show producers to finish writing the ASOIAF story beyond what the books had covered.

shinXseijuro81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

Seems like they’re focused on bringing new games to the table and moving forward instead of clinging to the past ? I understand why the matter is not urgent . bloodborn still holds up pretty good

Sorry for double post the website got major lags nowadays .

-Foxtrot81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

I don’t get this

Sony has said they love Bloodborne

Hidetaka Miyazaki loves Bloodborne, it’s like his baby but is super busy with other projects.

Bluepoint pitches a remake like they did with Demons Souls

Sony rejects it because apparently Miyazaki wants to work on it himself and they want to respect his wishes

Miyazaki decides to do The Duskbloods instead…on the Nintendo Switch 2

I don’t understand the issue here, is Miyazaki annoyed with Sony or something. Are those rumours about him not being happy with the Demons Souls remake true? Like this could have happened years ago if they wanted, it should have been the next project after Elden Ring. It’s sad because if Bluepoint was allowed to do this it might have saved them from being shut down.

BABY-JEDI81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

Seemingly Miyazaki had conflicted feelings about Bluepoint’s Demons Souls Remake. IMO all Miyazaki Souls games could learn from Bluepoint’s aesthetic approach/detail/refinement of the originals.
Sour grapes

oldenjon81d ago (Edited 81d ago )

double post

oldenjon81d ago

Fans of the original generally don’t agree with this sentiment though. Bluepoint got a lot of things completely wrong and took away from the atmosphere of the original. It’s weird to say that souls games, which are highly regarded for their unique art direction, should takes notes from the westernized aesthetic changes bluepoint made to their games.

Deathdeliverer81d ago

Miyazaki is especially close to bloodborne. He said it is the perfect game that embodies everything he has ever wanted to make and the best of his teams efforts. It’s Sonys game, but do you think they would risk losing him as a dev because they did something he wanted to do himself? It’s like Miyamoto. You think him saying I want to make Mario a space duck in the next entry Nintendo will shoot him down? Some devs have earned that “superstar” status and unfortunately Miyazaki will have to leave gaming, one way or another, or decide the time is right to do it himself. Look at what’s going on with the metal gear series now when you have pissed off the GUY. Exactly. Nothing.

Chard81d ago

I’m relieved Bluepoint will never touch Bloodborne. Have a look into what Bluepoint changed from an artistic perspective in the Demon’s Souls remake. Those changes are an affront to god and should be damn near illegal. Bloodborne would’ve better served with a framerate and resolution patch.

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