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2016 Gaming Predictions: Oculus VR on Xbox One

Armik Asheghian from Gamerscore Whores writes "When Phil Spencer stood up on the Oculus press conference stage last year it formulated the beginning of a partnership between Xbox One and Oculus VR that we feel will go much deeper than a mere accessory bundle and a Windows 10 Xbox One virtual room experience. The HoloLens is more of an enterprise product in our eyes, it’s limited scope for a wide array of gaming leaves it already at a disadvantage against the likes of the Playstation VR. We believe that in 2016 Microsoft will announce a partnership with Oculus VR which will make the headset work on the Xbox One using an eGPU or internal GPU if Microsoft decides to dump the disc drive and bring out an Xbox One Slim. Katie & Armik go into greater detail in our video prediction."

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YinYangGaming3798d ago

A long shot but if true will only be a smart move on Microsoft's end, if VR succeeds they'll make a good chunk of profit without the manufacturing/research costs etc. While if it fails to take off they'll be in a much better position than Sony would be if VR flops, again doubt this will happen but would be very cool

DarkOcelet3798d ago

The problem is the XboxOne cant handle Oculus Rift, It needs a very powerful GPU to handle it.

The minimum is at least a GTX 970. And the XboxOne GPU is equivalent to an 7770 GPU or slightly lower.

The GTX 970 is 2 times more powerful than a 7770 so i doubt we will see Oculus Rift working on the Xone.

thisgamer5033798d ago

That would be a 970 required for the games Oculus is running on PC. I'm sure the headset could handle the PSVR style games that could be shown on the xbox one just fine. From what i've seen, it's mostly smaller indie stuff on the psvr.

DarkOcelet3798d ago

@thisgamer503

Um, Ace Combat 7, GT Sports and the AAA 1st party games wont be small indie stuff.

Bdub20003798d ago

The article addresses that by saying they acknowledge it will need some type of on board GPU

OC_MurphysLaw3798d ago

@darkocelet a work around by using an external processor no doubt could be found to help xbox one.

Khaotic3798d ago

External gpu maybe. Otherwise maybe bundle a new xbox device with occulus made strictly for VR gaming. I really have no clue but if MS plans on staying in gaming for the long-term I can't see them not doing something to compete in the market.

TheCommentator3798d ago

Thank you Pistols, I've pointed out that Project Irides and cloud compute could reasonably stand in as the external processor before. Haters want to hate though...

neoandrew3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

This just BS.

Xone has a equivalent of minimum 7790.

PS4 is like between 7850 - 7870.

Neither xone or ps4 can handle Oculus, neither have the power of gtx 970, if you can't handle Oculus you can't handle VR.

PSVR is just sony big fat lie, it will be gimped to work, interpolating frames, compromising quality to hit the required fps and res, nowhere near th efull Oculus quality.

Or they will gimp Oculus to psvr specs, the only way any VR will work on any console.

That is the TRUTH

For good VR you need a minimum 2k and 75 fps. Not achievable by any console without some dirty tricks.

REAL VR = ONLY ON PC and a expensive one.

Or a cheap one, but using the same poor tricks of psvr, frame interpolating, lower quality etc.

TheCommentator3797d ago

Neoandrew, I remember people getting all techie about why XB1 and PS4 couldn't run BC. Heck, even reputable tech websites said BC was impossible for 8th gen but look what happened there.

You are right about the fact that it will resort to the same sub-par interpolation that PSVR will use, but with OR on XB1 it will be handled via cloud compute middleware acting as the external processor. I'm curious though; what people who disagree with Pistols and I think MS are developing Irides for if Hololens is completely self contained?

Yetter3797d ago

We believe that in 2016 Microsoft will announce a partnership with Oculus VR which will make the headset work on the Xbox One using an eGPU...

perhaps you missed this part of the prediction

dakunclear3797d ago (Edited 3797d ago )

@neoandrew PSVR will have an external processing unit to do what it does.....here is a link to the article http://www.psu.com/news/285...

TheCommentator3797d ago (Edited 3797d ago )

Dakunclear, the problem Neoandrew points out is that while Oculus Rift is native, PSVR is done by emulating things that can't be done natively due to its' power limitations. Native is always better than using post processing effects. I can run my games at 120fps with my tv's interpolation, for example, but it introduces artifacts not present in the original(native) data.

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ApocalypseShadow3798d ago

This gamer,you're saying GT sport,ace combat,rigs,London heist, eve valkyrie,etc are....indie games?

You serious?

ApocalypseShadow3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

I'm predicting the same thing.At CES they will announce an oculus solution.Just create a box similar to Sony's.

If VR succeeds,they'll eventually come around with VR too.it's only an optional way to play. And kinect could easily track markers put on a controller.

But we'll see...

As for the other part of this video, it's nonsense.Keep hearing Microsoft has better bundles and is selling better during the Christmas season. But sales don't show that to be true. Game sales don't show it to be true. Or we would have seen release numbers. Things aren't what they seem if you have to hide them and bring up "experience" numbers. I'm sorry but that's just the truth.

joeorc3798d ago

@ Apocalypse Shadow

"Microsoft has better bundles and is selling better during the Christmas season. "

10000000% correct if there ever such a %

Not only was this claim by this video sites factually incorrect, it was in no way shape or form correct among any region world wide where The Xbox one even outsold the ps4!

ApocalypseShadow3798d ago

It's like the followers are determined to rewrite history so that it seems that the two consoles are on par with each other.

Never seen so much misinformation in my life to help this company. Truth just seems unheard of to some of these people.

DigitalRaptor3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

It's inevitable that at some point, Microsoft is going to jump into native VR development, and not just coast on the strange TV within a TV experience that they announced last year, acting as though it counts as a full-on answer to what Sony is offering.

I think the removal of the disc drive to make space for an additional processing "unit" for VR, is a terrible prediction. "That just makes sense!"- no it really doesn't. That would leave upwards of 15 million Xbox One consoles out now, unable to play VR games. I'm not seeing that. I think that the point of going all digital, is reducing the cost of the console by not having a disc drive (as well as the whole theory of them controlling your purchases via digital-only channels). Adding some extra tech in there is not going to lower the cost, but maintain it or even increase it.
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Oh and even these Xbox guys are vouching for the excitement of the kind of experiences VR is bringing to the table. Just listen to this video @ 6:30

ApocalypseShadow3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

Yeah.I heard that part and chuckled. Microsoft would be crazy to drop the disc format. That's like a middle finger to current buyers.

But on the other hand, last gen they didn't provide any HDMI solution for component 360 buyers. So you never know with them. Even though HDMI wasn't that necessary to play games accept if you wanted better HD.

But yeah, I laughed.

Yetter3797d ago

having a SKU with out a disc drive isn't a slight against current buyers, but putting a new GPU in would be

rainslacker3797d ago

I could see MS offering a digital only machine with no drive. Could offer a low cost solution for those that don't mind digital content. Personally think those users may be restricting themselves to fewer options, but it's certainly a viable market to make a profit off of.

As far as adding in additional hardware, that kind of defeats the purpose, and assumes that people would actually be willing to spend more just for the VR feature, but at the same time, not be given the option for retail games. It limits the market, and that's probably why it won't happen.

I suppose though it is possible to offer a supplimental box for existing owners, as well as a new premium machine, but to me, it seems like if MS went this route, it would make quite a few SKU's for them to have to manage, as well as be confusing for the average consumer.

Simple is usually better when it comes to the console itself.

ScorpiusX3798d ago

With Zuckerberg giving away & taking a more philanthropy lifestyle , Could a buyout of Facebook be happening or certain assets are being sold . Lets be honest VR is bound to be a success of sorts and it being a PC feature , you know MS is going to make certain they are not left behind . JMT

BiggerBoss3798d ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just suggest that Microsoft was going to buy out Facebook?

ScorpiusX3798d ago

A buy or whatever you want to call it, not an impossible concept .
I also stated that certain assets can be bought by MS .

badz1493798d ago

MS buying FB? LOL

in which universe? certainly not this one because they can't afford it!

Bladesfist3797d ago

@badz, Yer MS' research budget per year alone is only half of the majority stock value in facebook...

I think they are the one of the few companies that could buy facebook, doubt they ever will though.

jb2273798d ago

The day MS buys out Facebook is the day a lot of people quit using Facebook...I can see it now, Facebook, now exclusively available on Surface tablets & Zune media players!

Potential buyout aside (not very likely IMO), Spencer himself has specifically said that he "doesn't think VR is ready for a consumer market, it's a future tech." & he specifically called out AR like HoloLens as being closer to fruition...considering HoloLens is still at least a year or two off, that'd put any foray into the VR realm as being at least a few years down the line if Spencer has any say in the matter. I honestly don't see MS doing much w/ VR this gen. They will have the virtual cinema idea on Oculus for a few games, but beyond that VR for MS would be next gen at the earliest, assuming they even go that route. Shouldn't matter much anyway because all I've seen from the majority of MS fans in regards to VR is that it's either garbage on consoles or garbage altogether, so it's probably not a worthwhile market for them in regards to Xbox at this point.

ScorpiusX3798d ago (Edited 3798d ago )

A purchase of this magnitude is not a decision made by Spencer and seeing how its a item that can help keep Windows relevant with the PC crowd they would look into it & do so .
As for it being exclusive to one product it would defeat the service aspect they are trying to establish .
Hololens is cool and all but it wouldn't hurt to have a stake in both AR & VR , seeing how lens is not geared towards gaming out the gate.
As for the rest of the Xbox community they can think whatever they want , i think VR & AR are going to be awesome it just a matter of choosing which suits what you want or need.

zerocarnage3798d ago

I think your prob rite. As an xb1 owner I myself like the look of the hololens better than the vr, ar looks in a better state at the moment, looks like it has more functions, more you can actually play around with. It's all to soon to tell anyway on both ar and vr, we will know more as more info pops up.

But as I was about to say for this gen I myself, wouldn't say vr looks garbage, but it doesn't look incredibly fantastic. Also I have Kinect it just sits there as it did on the 360, at first though I tried to get fit through it on Xbox 360, but that soon past. Most gamers sit and play games, it's what were used to I can't see many people getting up for vr on either console or pc and if they do the novelty will wear off after a while. Let's face it, it all just looks like a more flashy step forward to Sony's PlayStation move and Microsoft's Kinect, it certainly is all a big risk for the developers of vr and ar..

kaizokuspy3798d ago

@zero carnage I would buy it if it just let me control camera angles with a wider fov

ShadowKnight3798d ago

That's not happening anytime soon. I do see Microsoft trying to buy AMD in the future. This is a guess and prediction

ScorpiusX3798d ago

if they can buy an IP or AMD why can't they buy Facebook . they are a public company , that is more than a social app . Bottom line if MS did buy FB it would be for its assets, the app is just icing on the cake.

ShadowKnight3797d ago

I'm not saying they can't buy them I just don't think they're really interested in Facebook and VR. But we shall see what happens. I'll mark your words and remember what you said if they do buy them. It's gonna be an interesting year.

zerocarnage3798d ago

As an Xbox owner, I think it'd be a great error to get rid of the disc drive, but we all know eventually disc games will be a thing of the past. Sony , Microsoft, Nintendo all want to cut the middle man out, developers don't want profits going to games stores and online sites no more now they have figured a way to sort that out and that's digital downloads.. who know maybe next gen vr will be more intense and the disc drive will be in the past, sent Nintendo already leaning on no disc drive for there next console???

I must admit, me and my son both own an Xb1 each, we share games through the digital sharing thing Microsoft have put in place, so we get two machines playing one copy of the game. It's also been much cheaper to buy American xb1 digital download codes and go onto the American market to download the American releases, saving anything from 5 GBP up to 25 GBP. Over time I have saved a he'll of a lot with this method and have a vast library of games that are digital on xb1..

To be honest I am not all that into vr at the moment, maybe once development progresses and it all gets better for sure, oh and costs drop, because let's face it, this vr tech isn't going to be cheap. I've already spent a fortune on this current gen and no doubt I'll spend more, to add vr to only increase my further spending would be crazy at first..

kaizokuspy3798d ago

You can game share on ps4 as well. Shareplay with your friends who don't even own the game. You can do a lot more with the ps4 than an xbox one. You can even use your mic to control the system. Only thing you can't do is say turn on, but hey I can press a button.

kraenk123798d ago

It is even possible to share one account with two people legally and share all games on both machines...I do that with my brother, so nothing unique to the X1 at all.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot29d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle29d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7729d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7733d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300034d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7234d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit33d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania34d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit33d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0733d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr34d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box34d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr34d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9534d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7234d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--34d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7234d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket34d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm34d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde34d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9233d ago (Edited 33d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_34d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted34d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania34d ago (Edited 34d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit33d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9233d ago (Edited 33d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT34d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers34d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14934d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0733d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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