I think KZ2 will be an amazing title, but the writer of this article loses credibility in his argument with poor writing, spelling and using sh1t like "lol".
Worse than that he hasn't written an unbiased article, but more of a rant which is what happens when fanboys are given webspace and no training in journalism.

The funny thing is I totally agree with this guy that Killzone 2 will be great, I just wish someone that could write (without sounding like a dumbass) had written this article instead of him.

And did he have to bash CoD4 in order to prove KZ2 was great?
CoD4 is fantastic. Why not say the KZ2 is improving on CoD4? Or taking the FPS to a new level?

i will give a bubble if someone can prove this game is bad without bringing a xbox game up or pc

Finally something on N4G I actually bothered to read all the way through, you told it exactly how it is and that was great, Im really looking forward to killzone 2, and I actually loved the first one and didnt have any of those problems mentions but I must have just got lucky.

P.S has anyone seen hip hop gamers hands on video with it, the bullets hit the wall and continue to glow, a seriously amazing game!

Well it does not bring anything new to gaming except a lot of GREY

what website called Killzone 2 generic was it gamedaily

PP we no u cheat the system on N4G i cant understand why people let u speak at all

people bite at u and u jack off at it must be your only porn

it boils down now u are not even a gamer
i bet you love games like halo for the rainbows and love and hippys
and power rangers

I own the xbox 360 and ps3
i have played halo for years rainbow wolfinstine on the beaches on xbox live long before you was born
i got my number one in operation flash point on xbox live in ranks

But when ps3 come well i quit xbox and moved on due to been a better console
deaths of my xbox 6 times
Better games like metal gear solid yet i still love rainbow six
uncharted took me by storm and that is a colorful game
so what is wrong with killzone

better yet let me throw a nade at you and see how gray it gets in a warzone
so Stop been a F**King clown
we no u have a Ps3 u just cant admit it cause u bashed it that much

i bet u are waiting right now for LBP and home beta
and u will be on Killzone
Socom and more

Mark my words when they have hands on multiplayer for killzone 2, u can bet these same people saying killzone 2 aint going to be anything special is going to eat those words.

The word generic has been thrown around this title by rabid fanboys, who look to cling to anything against the game. As long as it bashes the yet unreleased title, no matter how untrue it is.

really.

so why is this opinion more valid than others ?

answer..

its not.

but it is more inline with what ps3 fans want to see.

so on the broken site we call n4g its approved.

well done mods.
well done.

If it does, I will love this game. The most important part of any fps, especially on a console is the way the controls feel. I want to have the controller in my hand and play.

We here at Sony have noticed that out of all the complaints from the various gaming sites, none have been directly aimed at the core game play, but aimed at the the AI (being tweaked), and the controls, again, (being tweaked).

Talk of Killzone 2 being generic and not reinventing the FPS genre is unjust and is taking as a sign of fear. Does Gears of War 2 or Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas 2 have to reinvent the the third-person shooter genre, and standards set by Gears of War 1?

Does Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: World at War, Medal of Honor, Resistance 1 and 2, Battlefield Bad Company, Far Cry 2, Unreal Tournament 3, Turok, or Halo 3 have to reinvent the FPS genre? No! Some of these games are widely accepted because they are great games that define their genres.

Why should Killzone 2 be put under great scrutiny? And charged with reinventing the genre? WHY!? I'll tell you why...because it looks too damn good to be on consoles, it's solely associated with SCE, and it is overshadowing other "generic" shooters.

-Sony Rep.

wow, this guy has a brain, unlike most of the fanboy idiots.

killzone 2 takes first person shooters to a whole new level.

can´t wait ...

How can Gears of War get away with having some of the cheasiest dialogue this generation, but yet not get passed off as generic. Oh, yeah, it's an Xbox 360 game...

@gnothe1

all i said was that multiplatform games are sometimes better on the 360, which has been true.

the ps3 has enough games and there are even crossplatform games that run better on the ps3. so times have changed.

now i own both systems and this is good.

btw. only because i say that kz2 will take fps to a new level doesn´t mean that i don´t like the 360. it´s ok to like both consoles + it´s ok to talk trash about either system if there´s a reason for me.

i am actually looking forward to this, but the one thing i am dreading is the controls. I believe which pad you find best is down to personal prefrence. when it comes to FPS games i find the 360 pad best. I have cod4 on the ps3 and on the 360 but i just can't get into it on the ps3 cos of the pad.

i wish there was a pad that had a simular design layout to the 360 for the ps3. with the left thumb stick where the d-pad is. thats all i need.

anyway, the geme looks great. even though KZ1 was not as good as the hype... there is no reason to believe the Dev's have not learn't from that game and all the other fps games that have been out, what to do and what not to do, etc.

its just a case of play and see. graphics are outstanding, its just the gameplay and other stuff that is " iffy " so to speak.

still i won't knock it, till i try it. so far, so good.

Get over it killzone 2 will be crap just like the first one .but gears of war 2 now that looks awesome november can't come soon enouph

Why was my comment deleted? I said nothing that wasn't absolutely true, various press outlets said Killzone 2 looked somewhat generic. For instance, Edge said it lacked originality ( "The game takes no risks, neither in design nor tone. The explosive barrels, the crate-filled warehouse, the vision blur as damage is incurred, scripted sequences of Helghast fast-roping through roof-lights, the lights that blow out when shot at, the brightly colored wireframe boxes that show the locations of mission objectives; they’re all proven pieces of FPS and 3D world design, and taken together in the context of this much-vaunted game, it’s hard not to come away feeling that Killzone 2 is short on ideas that it can call its own." - http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News... ) and on 1UP's 1UPYours podcast they called it generic multiple times - some of them even said Project Origin looked more interesting, sans the visual splendor.

Can`t we wait the finished game to come out or at least a beta ? I mean, how many levels have we seen of it ? We`ve seen some of the multiplayer, but not a whole lot. It just way too early to conclude with anything. That includes Killzone being generic or taking the FPS-genre to a new level.

I think a lot of people was sceptic towards Killzone 2 because the first game was decent, but full of bugs etc and the infamous E3 2005 trailer of course. I`m sure some bash it because of it being a PS3 exclusive too, but i don`t think that`s a legitimate reason ;)

Many didn`t think GG could match the E3 2005 trailer (myself included), but they`ve come a lot closer that all of us thought. Having not played Liberation myself yet, i considered myself a sceptic towards K2 because the first had some issues to overcome, as i`m sure others have thought too. Also here i get more positive the more i see of it. The gameplay seems solid, the cover system seems to work, the framerate already is very stable, animations looks great etc. The multiplayer class aspect sounded cool too.

To think K2 should revolutionize the FPS-genre is just stupid to me, as the developers havn`t stated that`s what they`re aiming for either. As long as they deliver a fun game with a smooth framerate and great multiplayer that`s more that enough for me, because that is a hard task in itself. COD4 was great because so much happened all the time, even though it was linear was hell.

While i still have my doubts about K2 (hope it`s intense enough, like COD4 and is more varied than the first), i must say i`m becoming a believer the more i see of it.

What is unique with it gameplaywise?

First of all, it spends more time talking about Guerrilla, previous games and other games than it does Killzone 2.

Next, that list of bullets is just that, it's a list of bullets. It's not specific in any of the areas it supports, and therefore they are vague, and some of them are just irrelevant crap. Filling up the blu-ray disc? What idiot really considers that a concrete gameplay advantage over another game? What idiot feels that filling up a disc makes a game less generic? Also, a game taking place in a certain setting solely is not what makes it generic. Take God of War for example. Greek and Roman mythology has been done to DEATH, yet that game took those principles and delivered a masterpiece with a flair and style ALL IT'S OWN. This cretin is so simple-minded that all he sees is strictly what's on the surface without looking into things. I suppose he would tell me then that GoW is generic because we've all seen the greek thing before. Again I say, simple minded FOOL.

What if it's a WW2 shooter with sophisticated and/or unheard of gameplay mechanics? Is that game still generic? By this guy's logic, it sure is. Let's forget about a game standing on it's own merits folks.

On the flipside, bosses were one of the advantages listed. Well what if the bosses are stupid, weak, and easy to defeat? Does that lend to being generic, or LAME for that matter? Let's say the cover system is broken and doesn't function, so that running and gunning is a better choice? Would that not make the game less compelling? Of course we don't know that because our brilliant blog poster doesn't elaborate on these things, he just makes a list of vague points without analyzing them.

A game being generic or not is not about the sum of it's parts. It's about whether or not these parts are dynamic or well refined. If an action game came out that played like Double Dragon, it would be deemed generic because of the archaic mechanics. Compare something like that to God of War, however, and we can see the difference.

It's not about what game has more gimmicks than the other, it's strictly about what game does what mechanics better, and to what degree. How can we make this mechanic stand out and feel more effective and engaging to the player? That's what a developer ought to be thinking instead of listing bullet points. If you go for the checklist and just toss a bunch of features into a bucket, you get an unfinished, unrefined, and muddled MESS of a game that isn't playable.

Believe it or not, I'm very much in support of Killzone 2, but a crap article, whether it's on my side or not, is still a crap article.

The worst thing about this trash that negates it more than the hollow little list is that it's in retaliation to and inspired by fanboys. If you know what a fanatic is, then you know that they have an agenda and should not be taken seriously. Why then, WHY go to all of the trouble to disprove someone that's irrational and biased in the first place? Kinda makes this whole load of crap seem pointless doesn't it? Would you try to talk sense to a psychopath? Teach a dog to speak English? Then why disprove someone who won't listen? Sometimes I feel like the whole world has gone mad, but it ain't everybody. Sucks that the internet can give such a big voice to the most simple-minded buffoons...and the problem is that decent people with their wits about them will actually listen because "it's on the internet".

I personally can't wait to put the Killzone 2 disc into my PS3 and play it. However the only one new thing that Killzone does that I've never seen in any other shooter is first person cover system. Apart from that it isn't doing anything new or innovate for that matter.

What I want from Killzone 2 is a good looking shooter, which is balanced and fun to play plus a single player mode which isn't long just for the heck of it and finally a mutiplayer compontent is fun. balanced and has enough content to keep me interested.

1. ps3 exclusive
2. killzone 1
3. looks to good to be true.
any other reasons ?

my thoughts exactly

When gamers finally get to play Killzone 2 you will finally see what a FPS should play like. All I can say. Since fps are restricted by law to not allow for a wide open path or storyline, you need to make it as cinematic and real as possible.

Killzone 2 nails it. For anyone who has played it, you pick that control up and it feels right. The animations, the atmosphere, the lighting effects. Everything is the way it should be. Killzone 2, in my short time with it, is easily the greatest FPS ever made. Halo has nothing to show for when it comes to all out presentation.

I have yet to play online with Killzone 2, so we don't know how that is going to play out but from what I've played of the SP mode and what they gave us a peek into of the forest region level... WOW! All I can say.

The wood was flying off the trees, trees were being cut in half. IT was incredible. The sunlight was dancing on the ground, casting shadows of the leaves. You will not believe this level when you see it for the 1st time and we were lucky enough to do so.

I think the article is very good. This is what I've tried to say to 2-3 of my xbot fanatic friends but have failed. Now I'll just say whatever was written in this article to them ;). Lets see what they have to their defence after that.

i didnt like the first one...the second one look really good i cant wait...it will sell but not like mgs or halo.

by the the time this comes out the new COD will be out...Socom will be out

o and i think the time this comes out it is like a week apart from the release of halo wars and when something halo comes nothing else really get attention.....so we will see

"Advanced AI (20 guys aiming at you at once in COD4 is not AI, it's OVERWHELMING the player)"

- Brian

I find this very interesting; I like to use the word "intense" but the same meaning applies. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare took the game-play mechanics from the previous but in modern day technology. Basically in my opinion what Halo 3 failed in Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare succeeded in, by simply changing every single weapon. If you look at the previous Call of Duty games they play exactly the same way but Modern Warfare changed the atmosphere. In the end the World War II games called Call of Duty were all fun but the atmosphere turned people off. Just imagine Brothers in Arms in modern day technology?

With Killzone 2 people started saying its very grey, clunky controls, and core game-play mechanics generic. In the first Killzone you had a run button, some guns you did look down the barrel, and most of all didn’t have all that much colour. When Gears of War came out not one famous journalist said the game was very grey. This grey thing only started after Killzone 2 for the PlayStation 3 was revealed people started commenting. I would have to agree with Brian that most if not all PlayStation 3 exclusives always get over analyzed. Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction had too much variety, yet what made Grand Theft Auto IV so popular again?

I have to agree the first Killzone lacked polish but at the core of the game the formula was right. There was too much ambition for the game and the hardware couldn't handle it. The game didn't suck but wasn't as great as the developers wanted it to be. With the "Laws of the first person shooter" to me makes not sense becuse I don't really know what Brian (Author) really means. I've seen linear and non-linear first person shooters Far Cry 2 is one. If you mean laws by guns, covering, reload animations, death animations, explosions...etc. then yes all first person shooters are like that?

That have got me pretty excited. The hit-response system that blends motion capture and physics, the "build your own class" system for multiplayer, and the 1st person cover system. The author was right. No other FPS game has attempted a cover system anything like what Killzone 2 has, despite how long it's been showcased.

On top of that, it just looks like loads of fun.

Sony really does need another mainline shooter franchise. They pretty much gave up after the PS3 generation, and I'm really surprised they haven't tried at another high-profile, singleplayer-centric shooter; even if it weren't Killzone or Resistance.

I miss Killzone while I can see why they still do Horizon has some really good things but I do think that Horizon is overrated imo.

Or how about studios focus on projects that they feel passionate about, and not be forced to make something they have little interest in. It shows in the final product.

It’s still got potential for the modern era. The DNA is all there. The install base is there. The interest is there. The time is now.

Killzone 2 and 3 were farkin brilliant and way better than halo

Too bad they've abandoned em smh, then theres sony barely even acknowledging what us fans want. Every time they sale a certain high amount it get like that with them smh

Because Killzone games are awesome, that's the reason.

New ip after 3'rd horizon please 🙏

Give it to Bungie. The Helghast are awesome enemies and Bungie could make something really cool

not enough interest to keep it alive

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.