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How Xbox Won Back The Indie Devs

Nosredd|3727d ago |Opinion piece|20|

ID@Xbox has turned two years old, and it’s already clear that the program has radically changed since its inception. European manager of the scheme, Agostino Simonetta, spoke to us about how far the program has come, how it’s shaping the identity of the Xbox One, and where it could possibly be going next…

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Avernus3726d ago

Funny this article says "win back"... I remember the start of this gen ALLOT of X1 gamers swearing that Indie games aren't games, so that's what the PS4 "had no games", and now it's an accomplishment to get back these very indies that X1 owners scorned?

Interesting.

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Pogmathoin3726d ago (Edited 3726d ago )

Yes, interesting.... Many complained about many things MS did wrong, what they should fix.... And the same complainers, still need complain when these things are fixed, improved..... What else can we complain about?

Utalkin, I understand that... People complained, and were right too, though certain things they wanted to do were good.... But as you said, they have turned things around, yet people still complain like there is no tomorrow....

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Utalkin2me3726d ago (Edited 3726d ago )

Complain about their original idea and what the wanted to push on the consumer? What is wrong with you people that you just forget what MS has did and was trying to do.

I get they are trying to do right now, and the sole reason in my opinion was due to the backlash they was receiving from vocal consumers. But if you think for a second if nobody was vocal, MS would have keep with their original plan trying to screw over consumers.

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Army_of_Darkness3726d ago (Edited 3726d ago )

why does this matter?? I thought most xbone gamers don't care for indie games and always bash the ps4 for it?! LOL!

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UserNameIsNotTaken3726d ago

Turn things around? Against who?

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GamingIVfun3726d ago (Edited 3726d ago )

Makes it sound like they got them back from another console, not really the case though, both the PS4 and Nintendo Wii have a lot of indie games, I would guess that the PS4 still has many more indie games and many exclusive indie games.

Many Xbox One gamer's on N4G act like Indie games aren't really games and have tried to use the fact that PS4 has a lot of them against the PS4, so I would guess those same people don't care about them on Xbox One.

I like Indie games on all systems but have a real problem with hypocrisy.

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Pogmathoin3726d ago

MS policies may not have been the best, but I assume they were trying to prevent it from going like the App store with tons of rubbish, and also, simply protect the interests of its own console.... Did not turn out that way though.... Even if 360 gave indies the initial breakthrough on consoles......

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ScaReCrow903726d ago

No. I am angry with PlayStation because they've turned Indies into Shit filler.

I'm happy Microsoft is helping bring real Indies to the spotlight.

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bf0007779663726d ago (Edited 3726d ago )

Can we see big indie game projects like Until Dawn or No Man's Sky on the Xbox one in near future? I doubt.

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ScaReCrow903726d ago

Okay first of all no man sky was first shown as a pc game before it was ever announced at e3.

Secondly people I believe Sony fans are not calling until dawn an indie. Unless we should ignore when PlayStation said they're giving that game the triple A treatment?

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stuna13726d ago

Key words, "Win Back!". How can something be won back, unless it was lost in the first place? Like Utalkin2me is stating Microsoft was making a lot of enemies not only with gamers, but with Indies developers also! I think Microsoft forgot a key point of business; that allowing developers whether big or small to have some sayso in matters concern their games and how their handled, it's still a partnership and collaboration between them and developers of all sizes, and compromises need and have to be made in order to have a healthy relationship.

In many instances Microsoft boguarded situations giving Indies developers no course of actions to take but to accept strigent ultimatums or, shop elsewhere. This is a main reason Indies developers flocked to PlayStation platforms.

Now under new leadership Microsoft has hopefully turned a corner, but just like with gamers, the trust has to be rebuilt and the damage has to be repaired.

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ScaReCrow903726d ago

I'm sorry but no.
Xbox Indies have always been superior to the indiestation full of crap Indies. Theres not a single indie coming to PlayStation I care about. Unless shadow of the beast is considered indie. Apart from that nothing.

Xbox has ori, below, inside, ashen, cuphead and more that all just look amazing. I want my front page(steam) and conferences full of games worth playing not Indiecrap.

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sk8ofmnd3726d ago

I believe all it took was for ms to lift the stringent policies they had in place for indie developers. After they did that more indies flooded the x1 market. It had to have left a bitter taste in their mouths tho.

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Lenrulesdaworld3726d ago

Actually nothing has changed, the reality is that dev's have either gain money from sales on PS4 or Steam to release on xbox one or both at the same time. Or they just went full exclusive with sony. The policy states if you don't release on xbox one simultaneously they ask that you make an effort to add something to the game to give it a distinguished feeling for xbox gamers. Meaning exclusive items or DLC, some indies refuse or comply, other's release at the same time or don't all. That's the cold hard facts, for example Rocket League is giving xbox exclusive cars. It just enough to make it different from the ps version.

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ScorpiusX3726d ago

But yet you forget to mention that both Spencer & Chris Charla have stated that there are workarounds if asked of them.

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Lenrulesdaworld3726d ago

@castillo, what I mentioned are the work around's lol. Here TiC is the best place for xbox one facts and news check out this interview we did with Chris as we discuss the parity clause and what the work around's are. https://youtu.be/4XpChhfWBI...

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ScaReCrow903726d ago

Ori...cuphead...below...
Just naming a few. Please explain.

How exactly are those games earning money before release?

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Lenrulesdaworld3726d ago

@scarecrow the comment isn't about games releasing on xbox through xbox publishing or exclusivity which they pay for. The comment is on games releasing on xbox after releasing on PS4 or choosing not to come to xbox because of the parity clause when in actuality according the Chris Charla that bs. If they want to be on xbox they can. It's why I stated nothing has changed, it's just more indies are coming because we are deeper in the gen an dthey are dropping there games on both xbox & ps or xbox afters ps or xbox 1st because of funding/help from ms.

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Herbalistic3726d ago (Edited 3726d ago )

They cut back on some of the silly restrictions that shouldn't have been put in place..I remember when MS said indie studios would need a publisher just to release games on Xbox One.

2013
http://www.shacknews.com/ar...

But now MS demand of exclusive items for late ports are why they are missing out on some games

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TheGamingArt3726d ago

Ummm. It didn't.. I'm one of them lol.

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Blizzard Wants Faster Diablo Releases and More Expansions

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Blizzard reveals plans to speed up Diablo releases with more frequent expansions and updates as the franchise moves toward a live-service future.

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The 2.5D roguelike beat-em-up, ‘Mexican Ninja’, is coming to PC and consoles in 2026

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"Nuevo Tokyo is about to get even louder. During IGN Fan Fest, Amber-owned studio Madbricks, in partnership with REDRUM, officially announced that Mexican Ninja will launch this year on Xbox Series X|S, Xbox One, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, and PC via Steam." - Madbricks and REDRUM.

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He-Man and the Masters of the Universe Dragon Pearl of Destruction Releasing This April 2026

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He-Man and the Masters of the Universe Dragon Pearl of Destruction gets an April 2026 release for all major consoles and PC in April 2026.

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darthv7221h ago

This looks so good. I'd love to see someone do a thundercats game next.

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SimpleDad8h ago

Ahhh nostalgia is killing me with this one... Day one for sure.

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MrDead3h ago

I said "hey, what's going on?"

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This and all the other great cartoons. Mask, Defenders of the Earth, Thundercats and Battle of the Planets.

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