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PlayStation Experience - A Technical Mess

Why PlayStation Experience was technical mess for Sony both on stage in terms of presentation and off stage in how PS4 and PSN function.

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sammarshall1023798d ago

This show left a bad impression on many. Hopefully Sony's E3 is good

LordMaim3796d ago

A lot of people also thought this show was really good, but they tend not to make opinion articles. Slamming something is always better for clicks.

dirkdady3796d ago (Edited 3796d ago )

Technical mess? Lol ... That's a new one. What next?

I love the posts that leads with troll comment.
Hey sammarshall, I heard Microsoft shot their full load going as far as showing concept CGI videos of games like Recore at E3 that were no near ready and have nothing in the pipes until 2017. Kinda like what they did with phantom dust before quietly scrapping the game. This really seemed to have left a bad impression on many.

See what I did there?

sammarshall1023796d ago

Recore is a 2016 release along with Quantum Break, Crackdown 3, Gears of War 4, and Sea of Thieves

Phantom Dust wasn't confirmed to be a 2016 game and Phantom Dust isn't even scrapped, Phil Spencer confirmed on Twitter yesterday that it is still in development

dirkdady3796d ago

Lol clearly you missed my point.

Wallstreet373796d ago

Bad impression on what many? The click bait writers trying desperately to find news worthy stories or the fanboys on the opposition trying to fuel their sick weird crusade because their system of choice just isnt cutting it?

Seriously there are threads of ppl that actually attended that loved it. People that tried VR are overly positive about games like Rigs and other VR games even saying they've had better experiences then when they tried Oculus. We got Ni Nu Kuni 2 which was a godsend for many and although it probably wont be exclusive it doesn't matter we still got info on a great game. Street Fighter 5 info, House Marque game was on the floor and was well received, MLB 16 and other games.

Imo It was better than the competitions showcase offerings and i cant wait for 2016......

People before this show was planned already stated that VR was tough to show to the masses without experiencing it and sadly Sony didnt seem to pull it off in the presentation but they definitely pulled it off when ppl got hands on with all the VR games that ppl have been positively previewing and gushing about.

VsAssassin3796d ago

Ni No Kuni 2 is exclusive. It was stated before the trailer rolled.

Wallstreet373796d ago (Edited 3796d ago )

Vassassin...

I hear what your saying but i remember them stating it as a "console debut" and that does not mean exclusive.

I may be wrong, if so thank you for shedding light on that situation.

Just looked it up and they wording the used, i was right. That wording can mean alot of things including that it is only a timed exclusive....

http://www.playstationlifes...

SRN_Games3796d ago

I think you miss the point of the article a bit. The idea is that if Sony wants to be a leading platform, they need to step up their game and how they present material. None of this 'bashing' Sony and instead designed to start a conversation on how they can better PS4 and the experience around it.

Wallstreet373796d ago

SRN....

I understand exactly what the article is referencing and as other showcases have shown the big three all have room for improvement in terms of presentation. They all have had good presentations and straight awful.

The focus on much of ppls criticism with Sony's presentation was on the VR aspect which fits into my narrative and what i was conveying. I think last psx was great, Sonys E3 was awesome and this presentation was good imo. What they floundered on was the VR presentation but that was "expected" because prior to this presentation almost everyone spoke about how it is very hard to nearly impossible to really convey VR awesomeness to masses as they have to really try it. Sony didn't convey their VR message the way they wanted to, not due to lack of preparation but just because it is a hard thing to convey and anyone would have had problems.

SRN_Games3796d ago

VR is most certainly hard to show off. But in this case, it wasn't that they had difficulty showing off the tech, but that something clearly failed in the demo. Be it the Move controller, the game etc. Which is ok. Tech fails, it's a simple fact. But that they didn't have a backup to go to is my problem with it. For me, none of my issues were with the content of PSX. That's a completely different article and very subjective depending on a persons taste. However, how something is conveyed to an audience is something Sony can/should do a much better job at.

rainslacker3796d ago (Edited 3796d ago )

I liked the games shown because the games shown were more the kind of things I like. I like the AAA, but they get enough attention. while games I mostly like may just get one game at the show if we're lucky.

That being said, the show itself was rather dull just in how it was paced. What was shown was fine for the most part, with the typical one or two games I really wish they'd move on from(happens every conference usually involving COD or MW), and a VR demo which I feel failed to actually show what they wanted to show from an perspective of experience.

The technical glitches are too common nowadays to even write about though, as they happen at every conference, but I'd prefer a technical glitch to a recording of a game.

I guess I'm just not the kind of person who goes around complaining if a show doesn't show much that interests me, so long as what they show is games, or mostly game related.

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Wallstreet373796d ago

Yeah i seen that on Gaf they seemed to have a blast plus all the other positive VR previews weve had the last year. Rigs seems to be the system seller by the way and seems like GG did an awesome job with it.

Realms3796d ago

How dare Sony announce more games and updates on exciting upcoming releases. Terrible news all-around more games that appeal to different demographics it's a travesty. Sony must be stopped from their world wide plans of domination.LOL

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2pacalypsenow3798d ago

My only complaint was the VR demo lines were really long

SRN_Games3798d ago

Yea, the piece is really more about PlayStation infrastructure and presentation skills and less about what they really showed off at PSX.

Jalva3796d ago

All that conference did was convince me that VR is just another gimmick like motion controls.

himdeel3796d ago

I disagree. It truly illustrated the impossible task of demonstrating VR (an individual experience) to the masses on a conference stage. Watching people in VR is awkward.

Rimeskeem3797d ago

The crowd was actually really enjoying the VR demo on stage like the one where the guys controllers wouldnt work. At least from my point of view people were laughing and enjoying it.

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Jalva3796d ago

Just because they were laughing doesn't mean they were enjoying it.

DigitalRaptor3797d ago (Edited 3797d ago )

Yep. Agreed here.

Nothing wrong with the content... AT ALL. It was no different to PSX last year in terms of games focus, and people had nowhere near the complaints last year.

The flow definitely needed work. The on-stage VR demo was awkward as heck. The show ended abruptly with a third-party MOBA (which does look fantastic), but I was expecting more of a showstopper demo/trailer. The flow could have been better and if FF7 Remake or Ni No Kuni II at the end would have been better.

Rimeskeem3797d ago

yah, Sony has never been the best at fluidity in their conferences. This one was particularly bad, nothing was wrong with the content, just the way it was presented.

DerekFlint0073796d ago (Edited 3796d ago )

I wholeheartedly agree, the content was fine as you say, and the way the conference was presented was unfortunately botched in my opinion.

Sony, if recall had another dreadfully presented show not that long ago, it may have been in Japan approximately a year or so back and rather than show the games onscreen, the director kept constantly cutting away to non-descript audience reaction shots.

This conference was Sony's chance to showcase their wares to a huge Christmas buying public worldwide and i don't buy into the excuses made after the show that we should have tempered our expectations and that it was primarily an indie focused affair, they tell us this after the fact.

I don't necessarily feel that they needed to show us new content, but rather as they have a year to prepare for this show, concentrate and focus on better editing, presentation, running order/time and be more selective in showing off the games in a more positive light, in order to garner excitement. If there is any possibility for technical glitches and errors then ditch it and cut it from the run time and perhaps replace it with a vt clip.

It's genuinely surprising that given Sony's background in Film and TV that they can't bring in a better production crew to enhance the production and presentation values.

Elda3796d ago (Edited 3796d ago )

Technical mess or not,Sony still showed some great exclusives/games for anyone that owns Playstaion.

Jalva3796d ago (Edited 3796d ago )

None of which were new.

@MasterCornholio

Ni No Kuni isn't an exclusive, and I never said there was anything wrong with showing already announced games, just as long as they balance it out with some new announcements, also nobody cares about indies, just gonna be blunt this time.

MasterCornholio3796d ago (Edited 3796d ago )

Right so Ni No Kuni 2 wasnt new.

http://static.trustedreview...

https://encrypted-tbn3.gsta...

And whats wrong with showing already announced stuff at a conference?

If Microsoft and Nintendo are allowed to do it then Sony should as well.

Also now that i think about it plenty of new games were announced at that conference. Now they might not have been giant AAA games based off established franchises but they were still new games.

Like 100Ft Robot Golf for example. Now thats something that i really want to play.

https://farm1.staticflickr....

@Jalva

"and I never said there was anything wrong with showing already announced games"

But then you said this "None of which were new." which is basically you criticizing Sonys conference for not announcing new games at it when they actually did.

"Ni No Kuni isn't an exclusive"

And when were the other platforms confirmned?

Who cares if its exclusive or not thats one more game that PS4 owners get to play.

"also nobody cares about indies, just gonna be blunt this time."

And im going to be blunt this time with you. People do care about Indies. Because if they didn't The Witcher 3 wouldn't have won GOTY. Also ORI won some prizes as well. Not to mention tons of people had fun with Rocket League.

UserNameIsNotTaken3796d ago

Yeah cause indies and psvr games dont count, right?

Jalva3796d ago (Edited 3796d ago )

@UserNameIsNotTaken

As far as 99% of gamers are concerned, no... they don't.

People paid $400 for a PS4 to play big budget AAA games and exclusives, not these pseudo-artistic hipster college projects.

IIFloodyII3796d ago

Ni No Kuni 2 might go to NX at some point, but until then it's a PS4 exclusive. It probably won't go to PC or Xbox, none of Level 5's 50+ games have.

guyman3796d ago (Edited 3796d ago )

No one cares about indies? so no one cares about no man's sky? Journey? rocket league? ori and the blind forest? Rime? WIld? the 100's of popular indie games available through steam? etc, etc.

Just because Ni no Kuni is making a console debut, doesnt mean it's going to platforms outside of the ps3/vita/ps4 and why should it? no other platform received the first game. But hey, you trolls will stubbornly keep trolling away, it's like talking to a brick wall.

rainslacker3796d ago (Edited 3796d ago )

New for you must mean the first day of pre-production. That would be a concept document in the following format

Title (working title)

-insert game concept template here-

Hardly compelling trailer material.

Also, 99% of statistics are made up, and the other 1% is just bullsh*t.

@Guyman

Gears of War(except the new one), Sunset Overdrive, Ratchet & Clank(except some developed by Sony), Titanfall, and many more are also all indie games.:)

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Games Done Quick is coming to Europe for the first time with 3 days of Gamescom speedruns

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VaNdAl2d ago

Phil Spencer killed the Xbox Let It Go move on to PC

Jingsing2d ago

They would be better breaking up what valued assets they still have and put them out to auction for the competition.
There is no more financial gain for them on any trajectory in the entertainment space.

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PlayStation Confirms New DRM, Digital Games Will Vanish If Players Don't Log-In For 30 Days

Tech4Gamers writes: "A PlayStation Support assistant has confirmed that the 30-day timer implemented by the new DRM policy is part of an update and isn’t a bug. While responding to a fan’s query, PS support revealed that all games purchased digitally after March 2026 will be affected by this time limit.

If your PS4 or PS5 does not connect to the internet within 30 days, the game’s license will expire, and it won’t launch on the console unless the connection is restored. Hence, every digital game you purchase from now on will require an online check-in, or else you will lose ownership."

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Goodguy014d ago

That is wild lol. Steam already does this for some games depending on the developer...but man...all digital games on ps5...

Eonjay4d ago

FYI, it hasn't actually been confirmed. This is just a lot of assumptions. If this is the case i would expect Sony to come out and say so. Chat bot response doesn't count as official confirmation.

People are also saying this is also an inadvertent mistake. If this is the case Sony and its customers would be best served by coming out and saying so.

If this isn't a mistake I think they need to confirm it and Playstation gamers should complain.

darthv724d ago

Sounds like Sony quietly did what MS openly said they were going to do with the once a month check in... and MS got so much flak they had to change course.

People need to give Sony even more flak if its true.

blacktiger4d ago

If the response is from Sony whether irresponsible employee or chatbot. That's from SONY until Sony reiterate

Dandizzle3d ago

seriously, a large company like sony wouldnt do that without an announcement or else it would result in bombardment of customer service

BlackOni3d ago

Sony's chatbot is notoriously garbage at providing even basic information and functioning properly. I wouldn't take anything it says seriously.

That said, if this is true, this is serious af. Major L for gamers across the board.

1Victor3d ago

It’s no mistake someone got paid to code that in the update and it wasn’t just for the lol

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phatak4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

This is beyond nuts, this was pretty much the exact thing that the playstation execs during the ps4 era mocked the xbox one over and xbox never recovered after it, this is why you need stiff competition folks, Sony high on their own supply just like the early ps3 days where we apparently needed 2 jobs to afford one, I was a massive Ps3 fanboy mainly due to the fact that the xbox 360 pushed sony into a corner resulting in them actually trying real hard to get market share back and as a result we got crazy good exclusives, just for old times sakes like I used to do back in 2012 right here on n4g ill relist some of the major exclusives of ps3 again

Demons souls
Metal gear solid 4
uncharted 1,2,3
infamous 1,2, festival of blood
little big planet 1,2 & little big planet karting
gran turismo 5 and 6 & ridge racer 7
killzone 2,3
twisted metal
journey
ratchet and clank tools of destruction, quest for booty, crack in time, all for one, into the nexus
resistance 1,2,3
last of us 1
god of war 3 and ascension
motorstorm collection
ico & shadow of the colossus collection
folklore
modnation racers
warhawk & starhawk
sly collection & jack and daxter collection
Puppeteer & comet crash & tokyo jungle & rain & gravity crash & Echochrome & the last guy
Heavenly Sword
3D Dot Game Heroes
Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale
Mag & Socom 4
Fat Princess
Ni no Kuni, Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza 3,4,5 (these all came to pc later )

But just think and compare this catalog of games to ps5 ?
Saros, astro bot, demons souls remake, ghost of yotei, I would have included gran turismo 7 but that came on ps4 as well so not really an absolute exclusive that one needs to buy a ps5 to play like the other 4.

We are almost in the 6th year of the ps5, the 6th year of the ps3 was around 2012 and almost all the games from the list above were already released on the ps3, now if they are really pulling this online crap every 30 days non sense its only because of a lack of competition from xbox and so they have console players by the ba**s, now I don't know whether this is confirmed or not but regardless if this is in general where their headspace is at it seems like we should be worried, its the real playstation gamers that will be affected if its true, Im not even a playstation gamer anymore but my recommendation is put your money where you mouth is and really abandon playstation if this ends up being true.

Extermin8or3_3d ago

No it isnt. The xbox one require you to check in online every 24 hours. Also alot has changed in terms of Internet infrastructure and provision globally since 2013.....

hiawa233d ago

Looking at what consoles cost now, many need 2 jobs.

cytricks3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Not quiet. Xbox wanted to do DRM for physical games so they would be locked to your account and not sharable

Zerobalance3d ago

Most of those games are trash. Deal bro🤣 Ponies gotta pony up. Muma Sony wants some more cash. PC bro! Good ol' games. Look it up.

Ashunderfire863d ago

O man you remember that PS3 statement from crazy Ken Kutagri whatever is last name is, was so cringe for saying,”Your gonna want PS3 so bad you need 2 jobs!” That guy overhype the crap out of PS3, that was the most expensive console, an a lot of misinformation about the graphics and performance delta over 360.

Kyizen3d ago

Xbox drm was for physical games also and 24 hours with no sharing

vTuro243d ago

Yeah stuff like this is why competition is needed. The ps360 era was peak gaming. Microsoft and Sony waging a full on war and Nintendo just kinda doing their own thing. The gamers only benefited from that. Then Microsoft shot themselves in the dick with the Xbone and that gen felt like a step down from the previous (imo), though it wasn't bad still.
Then you have the current gen, which honestly feels like one big nothingburger. Barely anything interesting gets released while prices keep going up which to me is just insane. Astro Bot is basically their only exclusive that I'd be interested in buying, but I'm not buying an console just for that. Especially not one as expensive as the ps5... I would add Demon's Souls to that, but I already played the original. Loved the game, but a remake isn't a system seller for me.

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Loktai3d ago

@darthv72 Yeah LIKE 14 years ago. Its like saying "Give sony flak for raising game prices, because it would have made you mad in 2012"

PRIMORDUS3d ago

Pirate on PC what you can, you will own it, nothing will be taken from you. I feel like your just throwing money away and have nothing to show for it, with digital games.

1Victor3d ago

Well all I’m going to say is I’ll vote with my wallet and keep refusing to buy digital and will cancel my ps extra this is bs and you all that still think digital is the future should take note because once the servers goes down so does your digital game library. Good luck and good bye

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Jin_Sakai4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

This has to be a mistake.

“Received word from an anonymous insider. The Sony DRM issue is unintentional. From what we gathered, Sony accidentally broke something while fixing an exploit. They've known about the confusing UI for a while, but didn't see it as urgent. Hoping for a clarifying statement now.”

Eonjay4d ago

I find their communication to be very poor. If this is an error on their part why let people get worried about it? I understand they don't respond to rumor but sometimes they make it worse by not responding and this is an unforced error on top of and apparent unforced error.

Kribwalker3d ago

There’s people that talked directly to people, not chat bots, that confirmed it’s real 🤷‍♂️
I expect those fans that were so against Xbox doing it to eat a whole lot of crow

Outside_ofthe_Box3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Damn, we having diehards coming out of the woodworks for this. 😳

But you're right this is literally what led to the demise of the Xbox One and led to some calling it the Xbone.

There is literally no need for this and Sony has been doing just fine without it. If I don't turn on my console for 30 days and want to play offline I should be able to play the game that I paid for, no if and or buts about it.

Jin_Sakai3d ago

If it’s real it won’t last long. Almost every PlayStation YouTube video is full of revolt comments about it.

CrashMania4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

The screenshot from the article is from an AI chat bot, there are plenty of screenshots floating around from actual human chat reps stating the opposite.

SkilledGamer3d ago

It's also worth noting that the text stating a 30 day license seems to only be visible on PS4, PS5 users aren't seeing it at all.

Warrior944d ago

It this is real then I will never buy digital again and if the PS6 is digital only then it will be the first Playstation Console I wont buy

VersusDMC4d ago

"Games will vanish" is click baity as hell...all you have to do is log in and the license is restored.

phatak3d ago

@ VersusDMC The entire goal for us gamers is to want to avoid that lol, what if sony's servers are down or having some maintenance, many times ive just played my installed games without even signing into psn, from now one it means every 30 days I have to at the very least sign it to psn to even play my installed games, cannot even play single player games without singing in, so for example if sony just decides to ban me from psn, I cannot even play the games locally already installed on my drive that I purchased after march 2026, you don't think thats insane ? you just want to accept that ? abandon playstation right now if this story gets confirmed.
we officially have started renting games from march 2026, it was a good run we had 1994 to 2026.

VersusDMC3d ago

Maintenance doesn't last 30 days

Who doesn't sign in to psn for 30 days? Missing out on game updates, new games, messages, demos, etc...

You already lost all your purchases if you got permanently banned from psn so that's not new.

And if for some reason you don't have internet for 30 days you can use your smartphone as a Hotspot to connect your ps5 to the internet.

phatak3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@VersusDMC my point isn't not about the 30 days maintenance man, the fact that you are willing to accept this 30 days sign in means they totally OWN you now, what if they change this later to 7 days, im sure you will be making the exact same point right " who doesnt sign into psn every 7 days" ? eventually say it becomes every 24 hours you cool with that too ? by psn banning you I mean to say if I get banned on psn right now for some weird reason that they decide, but I have 20 installed games already downloaded and ready to play just by clicking X, basically all the exclusives from ps4 and ps5, even if my psn is banned I still get to play the games already installed right now same like putting the disc into a banned console, from march 2026 will I be able to play my locally installed games with a banned PSN ? Its not about the length of time, its the fact that the corporation gets total control over how I choose to even play my single player offline games with mandatory sign ins, a simple thing such as forgetting my password would mean I cant even play ghost of yotei offline without signing into psn.

You ever heard the phrase "give someone an inch and they will take a yard", thats what will happen here, it doesn't just end at 30 days sign in, that's just the start

cytricks3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Is it that difficult to sign in for one second every 30 days? Especially if you are ps plus member who wants to get their free games?

phatak3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

@cytricks You are focusing again on the 30 days too, "oh sony said its only 30 days so we are safe" While its not a probability YET, just know that your playstation turns into a brick if sony decides to turn off those servers.

Sony's lack of communication is telling my conspiracy filled mind lol that they're testing to see if they can get away with this. If it was truly a mistake, they would have acknowledged it, apologised, and stated they're working on a fix.

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