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Why Microsoft’s Backwards Compatibility Update Was Critical For Gaming In 2015

ThisGenGaming says "It’s been a little over a week since Microsoft rolled out the Backwards Compatibility update to Xbox One users. 104 titles are backwards compatible now and more are slowly becoming available to the public. Xbox gamers have been waiting for this since the console was released back in 2013. Some users have reported issues but most gamers are enjoying the games and have no issues whatsoever."

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FallenAngel19843867d ago

Doesn't make it anymore critical for the gaming industry than 3DS's and Vita's backwards compatibility in 2011 and Wii U's backwards compatibility in 2012.

Also, PS Now shouldn't always brought up in these discussions when it's a service that can be accessed on multiple different devices besides Ps4

knifefight3867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

You bring up the Vita, but to be fair, Vita's "backward compatibility" is digital only and requires you to pay for your physical games a second time.

If you already own a physical copy of a 3DS game -- the other system you mention -- you don't need to buy it again.

And now Microsoft is kind of working toward that same goal -- the one where you don't necessarily have to re-buy your physical games, which is why it's different than the Vita's system.

knifefight3867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

I should add that I'm referring to physical DS games being playable on 3DS, but physical PSP games not being playable on Vita. If you want to play a PSP game on Vita and you own it physically but don't own it digitally, you have to re-buy it, so the comparison doesn't really hold up.

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rainslacker3867d ago

Critical does seem to be an overstatement of it's effect.

I question the authors source for saying that many people are getting X1's now due to the feature, since the sales of the X1 have remained pretty constant for a while now...Black Friday and a couple big game releases being an obvious exception.

I do agree with most of what else the author says, but still think using the word critical is over stating the impact of the feature. It has benefits to MS and the consumer, as the author says, but if it had never come around, I think console sales would have remained at about the same level.

I also question why the author brings up PSNow. How long will it be before people stop equating BC with streaming games. It's not the same thing, and it isn't marketed to be a BC solution. It may become one in the future, but until Sony offers it as that, it's not worth comparing.

Rookie_Monster3867d ago

Very important IMO. This is not just any BC, but it is how BC should be done and the standard from now on.

1. It offers online play with last gen consoles. Never done before.

2. Offers both Disc based and digital support of BC titles with the later automatically showing up on your "my game" list to make it easy and convenient to just download and play.

3. All DLCs, saves, and achievements are supported and carried over from the X360. It is like you are playing on an x360 with menu and Startup screen that are just like what you remebered it was on that console.

4. Offers additional value to XB1 Gold subscribers with 2x BC games free per month.

5. AAA games are starting to include extra BC titles to add value and let gamers play prequels before the current game. Add value to customers.

6. Able to use XB1 hardware/software features. Great features like Streaming, snap, recording, to using hardware like The new Elite Controller are possible and make these old games feel like new experiences.

So MS had succeeded and bought BC to new heights and if other console manufacturers are copying MS's BC method for their future consoles, then we as gamers will all benefit from it. Great work MS and Team Xbox with your BC implementation!

riverstars863867d ago

Very well said, I highly agree with you Rookie_Monster.

Aenea3867d ago

Ehh no, this is not how BC should be done in the future! I hope the next generation of consoles will just be able to play your older games without you having to download them or the publisher having to give permission!

Everything you mention is perfect though and honestly is what one would expect from proper BC (well I mean 1, 2, 3 and 6 are to be expected with proper BC, 4 and 5 are either MS or publisher specific).

rainslacker3867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

Actually, His list is pretty spot on. MS brought a lot of nice things to BC with their implementation.

Granted, some of them may have been offered if they were applicable to BC last gen...like carrying over achievements. Also PS3 would allow cross gen play with FFXI, so MS wasn't actually the first here, and I believe some of that is available through PSP BC on the Vita. For PS3 it of course required the full BC version. There may be other games which allow this sort of cross gen play, but that's the only one I'm specifically aware of.

Only real thing I'd like a bit better with MS implementation is if they just made disc based versions not require publisher approval to give authorization to have access to the digital version. If you could just play them off the disc, and have your full library, that would be awesome. But what they have is acceptable given that or no other option.

Aenea3867d ago

@the disagrees!

I agree with what Rookie said, but I don't want to be limited by publishers giving permission, don't want to download them when the game can be read from the disc and don't want it limited to what the console manufacturer puts time into to get it BC compatible.

I want it to just work with each and any disc you insert into the darn thing!

@rainslacker

so actually we agree huh? :)

It would be the perfect BC if it did all it does now but also would work with the discs and without any work to be done by MS and without permission.

I want all future BC for any console to be like that!

REDDURT3867d ago

Spend $350 to play your old games because our best lineup ever is awesome.

Angerfist3867d ago

Its another way to get ppl to switch to X1. If they get 500 Games to BC which I think is realistic it's a great reason for to ppl to move on from 360.

TheUndertaker853867d ago (Edited 3867d ago )

To add: When you can buy the native hardware now for less than $100 with some simple searching that will allow you to play any Xbox 360 game, digital or physical, right now with no long, unguaranteed wait.

So you want to play RDR on your XOne? Well, too bad it doesn't work. Black Ops 2? Doesn't work. Many Forza titles don't work. Grand Theft Auto doesn't work. One title out of all of the Assassin's Creed games work on XOne. Only one Fable title works. No Final Fantasy, no dedicated Kinect games... The list keeps going and many of these don't have a BC date or even acknowledgement.

I mean shit. Black Ops 2 is the most wanted BC game being requested. Do they acknowledge it? No. Instead they aim for the first Black Ops instead. Do they mention that 2 may be BC later? No, they don't even do that after the announcement the first will be BC... Sometime this month. With a vague, limited list on the way as they acknowledge they plan to keep this up every month.

FoxyGotGame3867d ago

Would have been more 'Critical' to Gaming, had it happened this time 2013 /

Aenea3867d ago

Yeah, surely would have helped them. Also is not critical to gaming in 2015 if you don't own an Xbox 1, the title is a little too generic for my taste...

Masterchief_thegoat3867d ago

ms allow me to re- buy 360 games to play on my xbone. nice feature ms

Aenea3867d ago

You don't have to re-buy them though if you still have them...

Masterchief_thegoat3867d ago

i don't have them so i have to re buy them to play it

Aenea3867d ago

You never had them or got rid of them? If you had them, why did you get rid of them in the first place if you still want to play them?? Makes no sense whatsoever!

Masterchief_thegoat3867d ago

i never had them that why... the reason i mention re buy cause halo reach is coming up

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai67d ago (Edited 67d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio67d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing67d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9267d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit67d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing67d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9267d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay69d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn269d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn269d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown69d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay69d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay69d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac68d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger69d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300069d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde69d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood69d ago (Edited 69d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde69d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7570d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_68d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.