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Is Microsoft to Thank for PS2 Emulation on PS4?

PS4 getting PS2 emulation could be a sign of healthy competition in the industry.

Aloy-Boyfriend3704d ago

Let's not forget they pretty much hinted they were working on PS4 emulation back in 2014, around the same time some document got leak about trophies for old games. I dunno, maybe they paused development and after MS announced BC they felt some pressure from the fans and media and resumed working on it and finally confirmed it. If it is like I said then MS is somewhat to thank for that but not entirely

Bansai3704d ago

News flash: Competition is healthy for the consumers.

Eonjay3704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

So then PS2 backwards compatibility hints made Microsoft compete. Got it thanks.

Edit: That would be like saying Sony is to thanks for GWG and game trading on the Xbox One... oh wait.

MeteorPanda3704d ago

l love how people downvoted you. with no competition they'd have the monopoly..and that is something you really dont goddamn want in anything. Competition keeps things low price, somewhat honest as each company rats on the other and the fear of losing customers means you get customer support.

consumers are the only winners. XD

breakpad3704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

i hope it will be a complete disc based emulator (without excluding of course PSN option) ...Sony,... PS4 is powerful enough to bear the emulator without any complication ...it is in your hand to make it simple (and be loved) for those who still have the games ( without thievery lame charges , downloads , subscriptions)

Ray_moondo3703d ago

^ It's concerning that people are disagreeing with the guy that pretty much only said that monopolies are bad

Tech53703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

Microsoft took what was on paper and made into a reality if anything.

UltraNova3703d ago (Edited 3703d ago )

To be honest it seems Sony was the reason MS scrambled to bring BC on xbox before they did.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://www.extremetech.com/...

That said,its a good thing there are now more options available for those who like playing older games.

boing13703d ago

@breakpad

Weren't PS2 games on CDs? FYI, PS4 doesn't read CDs.

BoriboyShoGUN3703d ago

No Kidding!! While I do love Sony, and I do tend to trust them more than MS. Any company with a monopoly would be scary!!! I think both have pushed each other for sure and we've been the benefactors!

tee_bag2423703d ago

Can't believe the down votes for wanting healthy competition... my oh my the i̶n̶t̶e̶r̶n̶e̶t̶ N4G gets more stupid every gen.

donwel3703d ago

@boing1
PS2 games were on DVDs m80, PS1 games were on CDs.

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Genuine-User3704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

The answer is an obvious NO.

PS1/PS2 backwards compatibility was hinted/semi-confirmed back in January 2014 - http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

Xbox BC was announced about 5 months ago.

ScorpiusX3704d ago

Yet with great joy its already here , as others continue to wait .

Genuine-User3704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

Oh what "great joy" I've had playing the current line up of backwards compatible games on Xbox One

Gears of War 2 & 3 run like a dream

/S

TWB3704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

So I have to ask. Do you think Microsoft just whipped out the XB360 BC? We have really no way of knowing who started the job first and if they even were influenced by one another.

Sony probably started first considering they already had existing emulators and even though they just cant port them over, they can build new emulators from the ground up behaving/emulating in similar ways. This way they can also improve and iron out some of the deep rooted flaws out from the emulators.

aconnellan3704d ago

I think you're right, no one really influenced anyone with this - both consoles had a demand for it, so both companies worked on delivering

candystop3704d ago

It doesn't matter who started first for the simple fact MS if offering a completely different BC experience. Also with rumors of original Xbox games coming I can see this really inspiring Sony.

rainslacker3703d ago

@TWB

If we don't know who started it first, then would the obvious answer to the question be "no, MS is not to thanks for PS2 emulation"?

I doubt either of them just whipped out BC. I wouldn't have thought 360 emulation possible myself. PS2/1 emulation should have been on the PS4 from day one, but that's a whole other debate, and honestly, it doesn't even really matter anymore. If it comes, I will probably use it, otherwise, my fat PS3 runs just fine.

miyamoto3703d ago

I wonder when will M$ and these bloggers stop freeloading on the PS4...?
They are so reactive...

Bigpappy3703d ago

Sony said no one uses BC and they had no interest in doing BC. So I would say M$ did force their hand.

DOMination-3703d ago

They probably started around the same time but factually we did know about the ps2 emulation first

Jmanzare3703d ago

@Bigpappy
Microsoft said backwards compatibility is thinking backwards

http://www.polygon.com/2013...

LordMaim3703d ago

@Jmanzare: I pity Don Mattrick, who had to be the public face of the company line and was paraded out as a sacrificial lamb for the whole gaming community to tear apart. Everyone seems to forget that he responded to a board of directors and the shareholders when strategies and policies were laid out for the Xbox One. It's not like he went rogue and implemented a DRM policy then held a gun to EA's head to be a partner in his schemes.

That said, he was terrible in front of the camera. That interview with Geoff Keighley where he suggested that people who wanted to play offline should stick with the Xbox 360 was the nail in his coffin. It's hard to defend an unpopular strategy, but there's no way he should have been that bad at it as a President.

JohnRambo3923703d ago

They thought about it but didn't give the green light until they saw how successfully Microsoft BC was. Anyway I would rather play Microsoft's BC before I play some PS2.

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N4GGuy243704d ago

Competition is always healthy. Companies are always looking at what their competitors is doing. Look at trophies for example without the achievement revolution Sony would not get inspired to do trophies. Same with PlayStation move from the nintendo wiimote and many other examples. So good PS2 emulation is back better for consumers. Perhaps even PS3 games aswell more the better.

showtimefolks3703d ago

Competition is great thing for consumers. but correct me if i am wrong. Didn't the ps2 emulation documents leak before MS announced it's BC?

regardless i believe both sony and ms push each other and that means we as gamers get the ultimate win

xbox live helped sony establish psn. but than psn-plus made xbox live improve and made it better for gamers

i just don't think there is anything MS can do this gen that will make a difference. this will be ps2 vs original xbox all over. sony messed up big time to let ms have the north american market, with ps4 they have regained that back in a major way

i don't see sony messing up with ps5 so i don't think it's gonna get better for ms/xbox brand anytime soon. PlayStation is a brand like Nintendo is, xbox isn't there and when it comes to international markets people just prefer playstation over other consoles

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Thatguy-3103704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

Oh yes because it's as easy as turning a switch on /s
It was expected seeing how they were doing it with PS1 games last gen.

FallenAngel19843704d ago

Sony had a patent which illustrated they were working on PS1 and PS2 backwards compatibility with Trophy support last year. I doubt Microsoft had any influence on their decision to do so

littlezizu3704d ago

No it was always part of plan for Sony the trophies for PS2 games was indication and also PS3 received PS1 like 2.5 years after release so it was expected.

TWB3704d ago (Edited 3704d ago )

Wow really? I didnt know about that. I bought my PS3 either in 2009 or 2010 so naturally I hadnt heard about this before.

Always though the PS1 emulation came straight out the box.

JohnRambo3923703d ago

I understand they had ideas but Microsoft's pushed them into making it a reality because of the success of Xbox BC. Remember Microsoft is the number one reason why gaming on console is so successful not PlayStation.

UserNameIsNotTaken3704d ago

Why? Competition helped Sony make this emulation.. dunno why people are saying no.

MrBeatdown3704d ago

Right. I'm sure Sony just cranked out PS2 emulation in four or five months.

sashimi3703d ago

Thanks for claiming speculation as fact.

cfc833703d ago

Because xb1 is bc with the 360, which is rival to ps3, which already streams on ps4. I'm sure this emulator has been in the works alot longer than a few months since e3 xb1 bc announcement. Who's to say the ps2 games will be free anyway ? They hardly give any decent wallpapers away, so i can't see them giving games away.

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thorstein16h ago

Demon's Souls was a PS3 game.

Bloodborne is PS4 and can be played on a PS5.

There's no need for a remaster.

Relientk7713h ago

I completely agree with you on this. If you want remasters or remakes give us games from the PS1 or PS2 era like Legend of Dragoon.

Eonjay8h ago

I would say thats a personal oponion trying to be passed off as a law. Truth is thre are many people who would love a remaster.upgrade so they can play Bloodborne at 60 FPS. People would literally love that.

shadowhaxor10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

I mentioned that in my article, did you read it? I literally pointed out this is exactly why the game is still doing well, and why Sony has zero reason to remake/remaster it.

And there are plenty of PS4 to PS5 remaster/remakes, to counterpoint that.

Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered
GTA V Expanded & Enhanced
Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut
Control: Ultimate Edition
Death Stranding Director’s Cut
Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade
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The Last of Us Part II Remastered

Eonjay8h ago

Either because they technically can't because From Soft wont allow them too, or because From Soft is sorking on the sequal, remaster themselves. Therre is a third option of course and that would be that they are working on it

MinnesotaFatts5h ago

Some part of me wonders if there's some sort of corporate war going on at Sony.

Daver8h ago

I want a new one not a remaster

victorMaje8h ago

TLoU got the remaster & then the remake treatment.
Where is the next bloodborne, or remaster, or remake?

Goodguy016h ago

What it needs is a ps5+pc release. The game absolutely needs a 4k60 update. Lots of money sony is sleeping on while the souls genre is still hot.

MinnesotaFatts6h ago

Tell me you don't know what a remaster is without telling me.

Bloodborne is infamously capped at 30fps on either system--a bizarre design choice given that speed and reaction time is central to the gameplay systems. This capped performance was never patched out officially, unless you jailbreak and mod your console. A remaster for modern hardware, not the infamously finicky PS4 devkits, would be a great way to both hyper-optimize the game *and* drive sales for the PS5, which still doesn't have a system seller title.

spoonard1h ago

I don't want a remaster, I want a ground-up remake, like Demon's Souls. 60+FPS, higher res textures, and higher poly models. Why wouldn't anyone want those things for Bloodborne???

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RaiderNation10h ago

There might be some licensing red tape they cant get around?

shadowhaxor10h ago

That'd be interesting, but Sony owns the IP 100%. So, I can't see how that is part of the issue, if there is even one.

RaiderNation6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Maybe Sony isnt interested in doing it without the assistance of Miyazaki and he's not interested? (Just spit-balling).

BeHunted1h ago

Sony doesn't own the studio that created the game

MinnesotaFatts6h ago

That's the issue according to FROMSOFT. They'd *love* to do a remaster, but Sony won't even return their calls.

Inverno10h ago

Because they're saving that for the PS6 to lure in all the suckers that will think they're making a sequel, but the whole gen will pass by and From won't ever touch it because Song doesn't care for either Demon or Blood outside of remakes.

Furesis8h ago

Because they made them do something else, then they canceled it and who knows what they are doing these days. They dont understand what they have and honestly i dont think they know what they are doing either.

blacktiger7h ago

How bout forget remade and start making new game pls?

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