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Does EA Have No Shame?

ValKilmer|3822d ago |Opinion piece|76|

Electronic Arts has been one of the top three companies found at the forefront of everything that’s wrong in the gaming industry for years now. Normally many companies would take this as a hint and start thinking of new strategies to better their company, but not EA as Battlefront has shown.

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ValKilmer3822d ago

No. No they don't.

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the_mack_attack33822d ago

Val Kilmer does not lie....So it must be true!

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ZorinInc3822d ago

https://quipvid.com/watch/J...

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Spotie3822d ago

It doesn't take a "Real Genius" to figure that one out.

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SpinalRemains1383822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

Bubble. It's a moral imperative.

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saywat2473822d ago

ea doesnt usually have shame, but when they do...they don't :)

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FlameBaitGod3822d ago

Well people keep buying their games so....y change if money keeps rolling in.

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BeefCurtains3822d ago

They have a winning formula to maximize profits. They keep producing less content, requiring expensive DLC to get the whole game, and less quality control... All the while everyone keeps buying it up expecting something different than the last game they released.

Until this formula doesn't work, EA will keep cutting corners and producing less quality. They shamelessly exploit gamers.

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PANDAB3822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

I'm sure they do actually. It's probably just packaged in a DLC wrap somewhere with a season pass pre-order bonus.

But on a serious note, you can't fault a company to milk money from an idea, it's what they do. The fault is with us gamers who gobble this up and simply encourage this sort of thing.

But I have to say ....paying people to fool gamers is a real low and disgusting practice.

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chrisco84au3822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

Reading this thread, I would say maybe 1/4 of the people replying ave played the game for a decent amount of time, not the BETA, not EA access.THE GAME.

Now everyone can have their opinion and paying people to say a game is good is a no go but come on.

Its not a bad game, its actually a GREAT game with minimal content. The expansions will fix that. Is it worth your $$ now or in the future, only YOU can decide that, not me, not whoever disagrees in a fit to smash the disagree button to this comment only YOU.

For me, I love the game, am happy with the purchase and have bought the season pass. Now am I part of the 'problem'? Heck NO. I made my decision and I will live with it but do not say people who are happy to buy the game and season pass are part of a problem, when there is no problem, they made the choice with free will.

The problem is others telling others what they should and shouldn't do/buy/play. We all play for enjoyment and I am getting enjoyment from every second I play this game. My choice but don't say I contributed to a problem that does not exist with free will.

I hate Halo (personal preference and micro transactions) but I do not go into a Halo thread and play down the people getting enjoyment from the game, i let them enjoy it without being belittled.

If YOU don't like it, DO NOT BUY IT but stop playing the victim.

Oh and ALL the people criticizing forgot to mention that EA today announced a FREE new game mode with upcoming FREE new map/s. Wow, those deceiving money grabbers, anyone would think from the replies EA is some not for profit organization. Not a multi billion dollar company.....

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FallenAngel19843822d ago

Does EA have a soul

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Relientk773822d ago

No

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goldwyncq3822d ago

EA has long been lost to the dark side.

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mep693822d ago

They do have cookies though.

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Archmagel3822d ago

@mep

You must have gotten the season pass for that privilege. How much is the chocolate chip dlc?

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Relientk773822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

No shame they have

*in Yoda voice*

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Ark_3822d ago

... and ashamed you should be, if no shame you have.

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FasterThanFTL13822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

They grossly overestimated the milking appeal of Star Wars: Battlefront thinking they would sell 13 million copies priced at $110 by March 31, 2016. If these stats are any indication they would be lucky to sell 1.3 million copies:

Currently online players

PC: 25,740 (24h peak: 33,337)

XBOXONE: 76,782 (24h peak: 80,174)

PS4: 124,185 (24h peak: 132,590)

Total: 226,707

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DLConspiracy3822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

They have already stated they beat the Witcher 3 in copies sold. That's just physical discs though. Online players isn't actually the number of people total but rather the amount of people online at that time btw.

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dkp233822d ago

It's a mp game. If people aren't online, what are they doing with the game ?

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uth113822d ago

Not every gamer is online 24/7

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DLConspiracy3822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

@dkp

How many people online constitute "people aren't online"? Clearly there are people online. Some people play hours some play for tens of minutes at a time. Like Uth11 said. People aren't online 24/7.

When call of duty had numbers of how many people were online on 360 days there was between 10k and 100k at a time. So I dont consider these numbers to be accountable for nobody being online. Especially since cod had and has 10 times more copies sold.

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dkp233822d ago

Ea did acknowledge softer sales than expected and hope for improvement. They are banking for a bump during g the movie release.

Doesn't sound so good so far for the game. If people are waiting they should wait until holiday xmas time for much cheaper deal.

This game isn't worth full price to me and add the $50 pass on top of it when new content is released in 2016.

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Shinuz3821d ago

Exactly this game isn't worth the ridiculous asking price, well to me anyway.

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dkp233822d ago

For a new game that just came out. A 24 hr stat with those low numbers for a game that is online only says a lot.

Throw in that this game is Star Wars too and ea admitting sales were didn't meet the low expectations. Not good.

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mep693822d ago

Is that world wide ? the numbers seem too low.

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JamesBroski3822d ago

You mean do gamers have no shame? They whine about EA, but keep buying their products.

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SatanicEyeJesus3822d ago

That's it.

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_-EDMIX-_3822d ago

Thats the thing...who is "They"? Doesn't that mean clearly MOST who are buying those products are not all on boards or forums?

It means that "they" are not the folks on here, thus...we don't make up all gamers on earth. The folks who complain on here are a extremely small minority.

Yes...EA has lots of crap you can say against them, but lots of that actually applies to lots of the industry. I don't get people who put human characteristics with publishers or gaming companies.

Their job is to make money and if someone is confused about that, I have no clue what to tell you.

As crazy as it sounds, lots and LOTS of what people say about EA can even be applied to CDPR.

If you say publisher is "hated" based on such things, you can't just suddenly not apply it to other publishers that could be doing the same thing. In gaming I've noticed this, but it exist elsewhere too, you might see fans of politicians legit do the exact same thing.

They would dog on someone for a certain reason, yet not dog on another for doing the exact same thing, suddenly its not the same lol. In the eyes of business and the law, wrong is not a subjective idea, its a objective factual one.

ie you can't misrepresent a product, you can't just lie about something going into a product and have it really not be there and a bunch of other things.

So the idea of "shame" from a company makes zero sense, if your adding a human emotion or characteristic to a company, your already stating you don't even fully get the concept in the first place.

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Jayszen3822d ago

Yes, agreed with much of what you say but do remember that corporations are run by humans and it is not unreasonable for us as gamers and consumers to expect these humans to have some morality and a bit of decency.

No one faults the right of EA to make money, that is what a business is set up to do. However, many corporations actually combine a hard-edged business ethos with consumer focus and deliver a product which may be expensive but still delivers on all fronts. With EA, however, they take a good thing and monetize every aspect of it and then squeeze costs down by reducing as much content and quality as is possible. What is worse is that they buy good devs and studios who if left to just get on with it, would give a steady supply of good games and consequently good profits but using the above method I have described they destroy the dev and the game. 'Command & Conquer' is one example of a franchise that just died under EA.

If anyone can be accused of a lack of shame, surely it is the people who run EA.

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_-EDMIX-_3822d ago

@Jayszen- unless they are again misrepresenting a product, I see no harm.

They are being transparent with what your actually buying, the same thing your saying about EA, can be applied to all game publishers. You actually know not of how they even create their games.

Could "then squeeze costs down by reducing as much content and quality as is possible" not be applied to all publishers or developers? Do you not get your stating this as if a matter of fact no one else does.

Could the expansion packs of Witcher 3 not be stripped from the main game?

The reality is, even if it was....they are not breaking any laws by doing that, its their game, their product and they own the rights.

What they marketed teh title to be, is just that, anything else they release they are 100% free to actually do.

Unless they promised you that content, your buying what they marketed, not what you "think" is the full or final or complete or ultimate etc game.

Though many don't like the real facts surrounding that, they need to get you can't just add some emotional concept to business. Again, lots of what your saying can be applied to any other publisher or developer you don't even 100% know that for a matter of fact.

The reality is....does it even hold up to a court of law? Did they ever promise they were offering a game as a service and the service was to give you ever last item and feature the team was working on regardless?

Are you buying what was marketed or the actual IP? This is where none of what many on here state makes any type of sense.

You either buy it....or you don't. Its marketed to be something and the only wrong you can really state is if it wasn't what it was stated to actually be.

I've read nothing in the EULA of any game that suggest your buying everything the team touched.

They are telling you what it is, your are agreeing to either buy it or not. Its legit that black and white.

Feelings, emotional appeal, morality etc have no place in this concept.

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Imalwaysright3822d ago

http://memecrunch.com/meme/...

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Thunder_G0d_Bane3822d ago

Good thing I stuck by my guns and didn't buy this turd of a game.

Got me fallout 4, halo and destiny to enjoy. And soon the Witcher expansion.

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Shinuz3821d ago

What about the bloodborne dlc?! :)

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solidmic3822d ago

They don't, but why should they?! No matter how many times and ways they find (and there's been plenty) to screw gamers over, again and again, year after year, gamers still bend over and their games sell millions of copies!

The stupidity and lack of self respect of the average gamer, boggles the mind!!! As the saying goes. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me! This rampant greed (not just EA, but the whole gaming industry) is very easy to fix. DON'T BUY THEIR GAMES!!!

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1nsomniac3822d ago

Well said.

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Shinuz3821d ago

Go go!! Indy games ftw!!

Btw I bought sublevel zero on pc yesterday and my god had such a blast playing it all night!

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WeaseL3822d ago

Another SJW website

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NeoGamer2323822d ago

People seem to think these publishers are not-for-profit charities.

They, are companies with shareholders that expect a certain financial return on investment.

What do you expect them to do?

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JackEffinBlack3822d ago

I expect them to do business with *some* sense of business ethics. Making money should be a top priority, of course; leaving this industry better than how you came into it, *for the gamer*, should also be a top priority. If us as consumers don't get our priorities met (full games, no spammy DLC, pushing graphic fidelity), then we shouldn't ensure that EA's priorities are met...

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SourtreeDing3822d ago

i actually dont buy anything EA anymore...

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Shinuz3821d ago

Last one I bought from them was Battlefield 3.

Same with activision, the last game from them was modern warfare 2.

Both of them on pc.

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yellowgerbil3822d ago

Do you have no shame for making such despicable title?

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JMyers3822d ago

Shame? With full pockets? No way. Battlfield 4 didn't have much content either at launch. It just came with a single player campaign which was very minimal.

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Austin483822d ago

At least it had a single player unlike battlefront I won't support this company until they get it together

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Ark_3822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

Like Austin allready said: BF4 had a singleplayer campaign - also 10 maps for every mode. Moreover deeper teamplay mechanics, levolution (changing level environments), multiple classes, a commander mode, VoiP, etc. ...
That's definitly a better package than Battlefront.

But I have to admit Battlefront is a good looking game and the sound design is top notch again. Also kudos for a relativly bugfree experience and good PC optimization.

As for now - still a rip-off in my book :P

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BassMan1253822d ago

"Battlfield 4 didn't have much content either at launch. It just came with a single player campaign which was very minimal."

Do you even play BF4 at launch? Because me (and I believe many people) barely touch the singleplayer campaign until like a month after playing dozens or probably hundreds of hours in MP.
BF4 has way more content than Battlefront, if that's what your point is.

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JMyers3822d ago

Yes I have played BF4. Over 500 hours logged. The single player that "no one" plays is one of the reasons that Battlefront is attacked for content wise. Both games launched with a similar amount of maps and modes. BF4 did have more weapons and more modes yes, but the overall offering wasn't much more that Battlefront.

If the argument is game play dynamics, variety and longevity of the multiplayer then that's a different argument. Battlefront also worked at launch. I am not defending any of these games launching the way they did. I am squarely pointing at EA.

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Cohagen4203822d ago

Its up to the consumers to stop paying for overpriced content..

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Lennoxb633822d ago

I'm not mad at EA. They shouldn't have any shame. They take advantage of the contradictions of gamers. Yell to the top of their lungs about a game one day, and buy it the next.

I'd do the same exact thing EA is doing. It is a business at the end of the day. Your feelings mean nothing. Whether you buy it or not is the most important subject.

But then again the majority don't analyze every aspect of a game like people on forums.

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pumpactionpimp3822d ago

Exactly. The market price is determined by consumer demand. Sheep buy a bad product, and the wolf will continue to eat them up.

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carriage4hire3822d ago

Ive been boycotting EA since they doomed the Dreamcast by not releasing games like Madden for it allowing PS2 to dominate.
I thought they turned a corner with EAAccess, but Battlefront just shows how anti-consumer they are.

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carriage4hire3822d ago

I will admit to buying multiple renditions of Madden since then because its the only NFL licensed game, and Mass Effect and Dragon Age but thats only because EA bought Bioware.

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2pacalypsenow3822d ago

I don't mind a company doing whatever it can to make as much money as possible, I just don't support it

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Bdxxacjkfs3822d ago

Enjoy your Capitalism, sheeps!

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quenomamen3822d ago

Real question is does Disney have no shame ? I saw plastic M&M shaped Darth Vader candy containers at the gas station today. Disney is gonna milk the Star Wars brand for another 20 years so get ready for at least another 9 movies, probably more.

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BassMan1253822d ago

Disney has no shame but at least they're not stupid like EA. Just look at Marvel. They milk it hard, but it works.

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TXIDarkAvenger3822d ago

I don't see anything wrong with this...

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Masterchief_thegoat3822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

You can't blame them. the blame should be on people who don't work hard for their money...

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BassMan1253822d ago

Not very related to the topics but, BF Hardline is on sale for 12 bucks at Origin right now, from the original price of 30 bucks, and it's not even been out for 10 months!

My point is, be patience, my young Padawan.
Battlefront WILL suffer the same fate.

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Immorals3822d ago

It's been in the EA access vault for a while too :p

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TheMadDutchman3822d ago

SHM + EA= shame

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Realms3822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

Stop buying their games or stop complaining. If enough people stop buying their games you better believe they would change their policies. Sadly that won't happen because they have Fifa and Madden to sell every year damn you casuals.

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Godmars2903822d ago

They make entertainment - games - which people buy and makes them money. Sure, they could make "quality" games but since cheap buggy crap still makes them money, what would be the actual point?

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llMurcielagoll3822d ago

EA Responds: "Hmmm... No, why?"

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PersonMan3822d ago

I actually like it. Traded my black ops 3 for it. Yes, it's somewhat limited on content but it's not buggy and that matters to me more. Also, drive club was also bare bones when it first came out.

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WilDRangeRfc3822d ago

I am guilty of supporting these assholes,I have spent a fortune on Fifa Ultimate team packs,they are always shitty players that you unpack and the Fifa points are so expensive, the game is not the best either, I have become worringly addicted to opening packs to try and get better players, I have PES 16 and I havent spent a penny and have 5-6 Barcelona and Real Madrid players just from pre order bonus points. I might delete Fifa its cost me literally hundreds of £

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Tzuno3822d ago (Edited 3822d ago )

If it works :)), the culprit is the people that buy every piece of content they throw, the only voice that they listen is money, if any company in this world is hurt by sales it will listen more to what people want. Unity, something that will never happen because we are different personalities and minds.

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Flames763821d ago

EA has turned everything around the past couple of years.With some of the best games in the gaming industry.Plus EA access is the best deal you can get in gaming right now.Their the number 1 3rd party publisher again and there is a reason for that.Activision is the worst company in the gaming industry have been for years.They take a piece of trash game like COD with a engine from a decade ago then sell the same game over and over again every year

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PrecursorOrb351d ago

It’s EA

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