end sooner? 2 years in, although XO is already delivering, they've yet to peak...in terms of the best games each company could possibly put out. ..that last thing I wanna discuss is a new console..

I want another 7-8 cycle..

If we get one sooner, you clowns would be the same ones moaning that that isn't a big enough 'leap'.

Gaming budgets are bigger now than they've ever been, so publishers will want this generation to last as long as it's profitable.

i give the current gen consoles 3-4 years, tops.

Well.. I mean wouldn't it matter more so how the home television industry is doing? The format for dvd is mainly 1080p right now. It's not like we are gonna leap to 4k as a whole anytime soon. There are tvs that go up to 240hz refresh rate too but that's not exactly something everyone has yet or even needs for standard home tv needs. Unless you game on PC.

So if things change in the television or monitor world suddenly then I don't see what the point would be. Unless they start making modular consoles aka pcs. Then either developers would have to make to the metal setting for each type of set up or the consumer would have to learn how to tweak their settings. Which at that point you may as well go pc. As consoles take that hassle away and run the game to the metal on each console.

In any case wayyyyyy too early for this.

Well we already know Nintendo is bringing their new console out in 2017.

I predict people will expect nextgen to be 4K, so this one will last as long as it takes for that to become affordable to do in a console

2018-2020

Backwards compatibility on day 1 for all 3 consoles will help make generations be only 5 years.

As a teacher, however, I see parents who are just now even considering getting the "new" console as they have asked me for advice. They might wait until next Christmas.

Also, the first console to 100% ditch physical media (or at least make it only be there for the initial download, and then it's a coaster), will be the biggest change in the industry. This is a matter of WHEN not IF.

Considering PSVR is still to launch & is designed spec wise to work directly in tandem with PS4. 6-8 years is pretty much set on the calendar. Anything less will stop people investing in PSVR

yes...tommorow lol

I'm not expecting it to last as long as the last one.

If VR is going to be a concentration, that will extend the lifespans of the consoles.

It'd be great if the NX blew the other 2 consoles away with tech specs and Unreal Engine 4 style Mario though and afforded to pay for it, if they must, by charging for online.

Everyone in the industry wants it to last a decade.

Do people think Sony, cash strapped, will put out a new system with expensive components and take a loss on it, when they can make a bigger profit selling the ps4 year after year.

Devs want to plan out there business plan for years, they require certainty to be be successful.

Only MS, rich, could take the monetary hit required to release a new system that would be 1080p60, 4k30fps, also not only backward compatible but improves the x1 games.

However I don't think they would do this...but i never could have imagined them giving win10 away either.

Sony is in the drivers seat and can and should milk their more powerful console decision for a decade. Because with the brand loyalty they built they could release ps5 after X2 and people will wait. Same idea as with the ps3 but this time they have learned price it right and be more powerful.

Pre-ordered.

it still have at least 5 years ...

Well... I'll give here my opinion. To me, this gen has been weird to say the least. It has been a really, really slow gen, I mean, the Xbone and PS4 are two years old now, and I fail to see many exclusive games on each one. Sure, they have great games, like Infamous Second Son and Bloodborne, but I really dont see this gen as... meaty as the previous one. It's full of remakes of games that aren't even old. It's full of the "same games as ever".

There are great games to come, that's for sure. But as they're now, they're not worthy a purchase. When the great games -finally- comes, maybe we'll have the usual "PS4 slim model" or something.

We might see Sony/Microsoft push forward with new consoles in a few years, seeing as how Nintendo already is (but Nintendo follows its own timeline.)

Them pushing an idea however doesn't = going to work. Console owners like to buy something for the long haul. Do I think we will see another ten year span? No, but I think seven to eight years is highly plausible.

Gaming isn't cheap and I'm just finally getting my moneys worth. The thought of a new console in three or four years isn't even worth my consideration. I wouldn't buy it.

I hope it doesn't end quick. Another 5-6 years will be good though

If it doesn't it should. This generation of gaming seems more like a 2.0 of the previous generation.

I think the Xb1 and PS4 will done by 2018 the latest, the very latest. Nintendo is dropping the NX and I think MS and PS4 will be forced to do release their systems sooner.

This gen might be the worse in recent memory...

better not.

New console at 2019 at the latest

Millions of people buy a new $800+ phone every year. Why is it so hard to imagine a $500 console every three years or so

Why should it? There's still plenty of power left in the current gen consoles.

This gen is going to be a long one again. Halo 5 just came out and Halo 6 will take another 3 years. So I am pretty sure MS will not launch a new Halo game right before they launch their new console.
As for the PS4 The last of Us 2 is still 3 years away and no date yet for Gran Turismo.
This is going to be a long gen. Cause both company are going for a powerfull console and both company are going for a not so expensive console, because an expensive console can cost them the generation.
So yes this is going to be a long generation.

It really depends whether 4k takes off. If so, consoles are going to have to at least support a 2k standard along with more detailed models and better lighting to make a visually apparent bump from the last generation even when footage is shrunk back down to 1080p 30fps with compression artifacts.

Even at the rate components are getting cheaper, I think the next generation of consoles are going to come with a heftier price tag. This generation may need more time like PS3/360 did for the next to be affordable.

But again, this is just assuming that 4k takes off the way HD did. That's still up in the air.

I hope it ends soon. I want Phil Spencers vision of an Xbox. I'd buy a new one tomorrow.

They need to pack a lot more punch into next gen, so they cannot be afraid to have a 6-700 dollar price tag.

People are crazy! No one is gonna buy a new console after 3-4 years.
7-8 years is perfect!

let the developers get the best out of the console.

Peronally I'd like to see it go back to a 5 year cycle. I was really fatigued with last generation by the time it ended. To me 5 years is perfect.

I think that Sony and Microsoft [possibly Nintendo as well] are going to make their current consoles last longer than 5 years.

The reason?

PROFIT.

They're making huge bucks off their consoles this gen [Nintendo more through software and accessories than hardware], so why would they cut that short when Sony and Microsoft fans are so satisfied with what they've got?

I would not be shocked if they drew it out to another near-decade cycle.
If they did, the leap in tech that their next consoles could make would be far larger once again.

If we get 6 years out of this gen I'd be happy.

I'm sure it will but if and when it does it better be fully BC this time.. There is no excuse. I'm not going to spend the first 18 months of next generation playing remasters

Nintendo and Microsoft will be looking at 5 years. Sony cant afford that to happen.

First, there has to be enough technology change for a new generation to start. And that really isn't there yet.

Second, I don't think there has been very many games yet that have defined this generation. We need more games that we can say, "Gee, that is something new and fresh".

Third, With the multi-billion dollar investments required for each generation the console vendors will be waiting for an adequate pay-off.

Therefore, we are probably looking at about the same cycle as last generation before we see a new generation.

Nintendo is the only one in a good position.

Wuchang is great. Nine Sols didn’t have a physical copy so I never played it but I’ve heard good things so I will check it out. I stopped playing sports games many years ago when before the card dlc’s or whatever they’re called.

Last comment… ):

Great month for others, but not me. Hate soccer and soulslikes. Maybe Nine Sols is good.

🫡 it was fun while it lasted, N4G.

FC26!

I hated that he died. The game was good but you never want to see a character you can relate or enjoy to die off like that. We wanted more Joel not less. Still a really good game but that part will always sit poorly with many

I really didn’t mind his fate. It was the way it was executed was the problem

Not gonna lie, I think they made a big mistake. I mean I like a big unimaginable shock moments as much as the next person. It was just too soon though. If you’re going to kill off the main character you need a solid back up that people love just as much to carry the weight of the loss. If you’re setting it up for a trilogy then he really should have died at the end of 2 or half way through 3.

Who cares, that was like 6 years ago.

I don't mind the story, I think it is interesting in its own. But I would much prefer it stays as a story between Joel and Ellie (And I don't hate Abby, but it just feels like a third wheel when I play the game, feel like it is not a story about her). Joel can live with the consequences in a different way than just get killed off, his emotional conflicts between him and Ellie, Abby and everyone else would have a lot of interesting stories to tell, not any less than just get killed off.

So we as players, who controlled Joel in the first game, can get immersed and feel the guilt with him, instead of getting angry that he got killed.

TLOU Part 2 was a great game, but the entire game made me mad

Personally I liked that they killed off Joel, his death scene was great. The story was good and how revenge drives a person. The last quarter of the game was dumb after Tommy told Ellie where Abby was located. She leaves the farm goes in an arduous trek killing many more people along the way. Finds Abby in a cage releases her they fight, Ellie gets two fingers bitten off, and suddenly she doesn’t want to fight and kill Abby anymore, lets her leave with a warning even though she was the one losing the fight. Why go the rough all of that hassle just to let the focus of your hatred just leave. Should have stwyed home with Diana and keep all her fingers intact. Still a great game with a good story and I liked Abby I saw no reason for all her hate.

They could have killed Tommy and made it a revenge story with Joel and Ellie going after Abbie.

ND was trying so hard to make me sympathize with Abbie and it just wasn't working. I just don't understand how you make a "revenge is bad story" while having me mow through hundreds of NPCs just to get to the main culprit and just...not finish the job. Druckman is a terrible story teller.