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Fallout 4 PS4 vs Xbox One Frame-Rate Stress Tests

Digital Foundry:
Since our initial analysis, we've put more time into Fallout 4, and we've been able to isolate a number of spots that really challenge the engine. In particular the Corvega factory is a rough spot, and PS4 takes the brunt of the hit once we reach its rooftops (down to 15fps). Both machines also suffer long drops to 20fps in certain interior battles. Time will tell just how far-reaching these trouble spots are throughout the game, particularly once more hours tally up. In the meantime, we'll update soon with a full Face-Off, taking a deeper dive into the specific ins and outs of each platform.

YangXiaoLong3838d ago

Damage Control?

I see that other site was telling the truth how when on the ps4 it framerates drop when you fire your gun and xbox one doesn't.

MasterCornholio3838d ago

And in many cases the opposite is true.

I really cant come to a conclusion here.

Sometimes the PS4 is ahead and sometimes the XB1 is ahead. In the end its all the same to me.

Spid3r63838d ago

Show me the numbers....the other site did as far as overall experience and frame drops...DF just tells you and can manipulate what to show you. Overall I it seems the Xbox One performs better.

MasterCornholio3838d ago

@Spider

The video contains the numbers.

"DF just tells you and can manipulate what to show you"

Anyone can do that. Anyways believe in whatever comparison you want if it makes you feel better .

Bigpappy3838d ago

Yep. They both drop into the 20s when there area lot of effects and movement.

Having said that, it is a shame that DF had to tarnish the X1 version and now have to take it back. Something like this is enough to make people loose trust in the site. They have damaged their own integrity even though is commendable of them to retract and correct their slanderous claim.

Highlife3838d ago

Why don't we just enjoy the game and stop with all this stupid spec war crap. I find it funny and annoying that gamers will have a heart attack over the stupidest things.

dirkdady3838d ago

So what I've gleaned so far - NX does an first initial impressions on the first hour of gameplay and if you watch the video right at the first deathclaw fight in concord he exclaims ps4 struggles during intense fire fights and says he will continue to do a deep dive.
Internet gets whipped into a frenzy saying ps4 suffers.

Looking over at DF they say that from their extensive play through only the deathclaw battles (small number in grand scheme) ps4 has a performance hitch but overall is on par or surpasses Xbox one version.

I think they are both saying the same thing but the internet is taking NX's 1st hour analysis out of context.

Gazondaily3838d ago

Well both DF and NX are pretty much saying the same thing now no?

So yeah...

Anyway, just play the game. There isn't enough popcorn to go around for Bugthesda's antics.

Highlife3838d ago

Well I guess I'm wrong judging by the disagrees. Let's not enjoy the game and sit here and have a spec war.

Army_of_Darkness3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

The frame-rates on both consoles suck ass equally, that's the way I'm seeing it.
All this fighting over how "my console dips 2 frames less than yours" is just stupid when we all should be upset about how the developers could have done a better job with their game.
I just hope by the time I get the ps4 version( 4-6months from now) it will have a much steadier 30fps and is cheaper.

MasterCornholio3838d ago

@Army

"I just hope by the time I get the ps4 version( 4-6months from now) it will have a much steadier 30fps."

Hopefully they work their butts off to improve both versions of the game.

Patches can improve performance which is what happened with The Witcher 3. Im going to get that game because they eliminated the stupid lock at 20FPS.

Magnes3837d ago

A game that looks like this should run 1080p 30 fps on the Wii U I'm not knocking the game play or the visuals but we're not talking Witcher 3 fidelity here.

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ABizzel13838d ago

It's not damage control at all, that's fanboys wanting something to talk about.

DF always do extensive coverage on open-world games, because they are so huge and can take around tens of hours up to 100 to get a valid performance test.

They had multiple videos of The Witcher, Assassin's Creed, GTA V, and more. It's what they do with open-world. And when there is a patch or update they'll go back and revisit the game and add the updated results.

What needs to be discussed is the fact these garbage review sites have been giving the technical mess of a game passes in the vast majority of them, when Bethesda has been developing and producing these technical messy games with this engine for 10 years now. Oblivion has issue, Fallout 3 had issues, Fallout New Vegas had issue, and Skyrim had issues (some more than others). This could be blamed on the architecture of the PS360 at the time, but there is absolutely no excuse for these issues on PS4 / XBO / and PC.....OF ALL PLATFORMS PC. And then you have blatantly BS from PR reps, and comments like we'll let the PC community handle things with mods.

That's BS, and that's Damage Control.

frostypants3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

Because THE GAME IS FUN. It's not hard to comprehend.

ABizzel13838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

@fronstpants

IDGAF. They've been producing technically messy games for a decade, let any other developer outside of maybe Rockstar make a game with framerate issues to this degree, and it's going to be pointed out by everyone and knocked for the framerate problems.

Bethesda has been getting a pass for 10 years, enough is enough.

BF4 was a mess at launch, and it was knocked regardless of how fun the multiplayer was which is still played by a large community to this day. Assassin's Creed Unity was a mess at launch, and it was knocked. Fallout 4, "THE GAME IS FUN" (which is the purpose of EVERY game) gets a free pass, because "it's a Bethesda game, and bugs are expected".

No what should be expected is that they get they're freaking engine and developers to code their d@M# games properly, and stop leaving it to the mod community. It blows my mind how ignorant people are acting over this topic.

Yet people like you will be the first ones to complain about any other game having to get patched, or having issues just like Fallout 4 does. Stop giving these developers free passes.

You fools are the ones okaying all these technically messy game.

BallsEye3837d ago

If it wasn't damage control, why they didn't cover this part in their first video? I thought their analysis was more in-depth than NX gamer one? Why suddenly xbox one doesn't drop to 0 frames? WHy it works better in every combat situation? Why in their first video they didn't mention ps4 drops to 15 fps during combat? You guys will believe any crap thrown at you.

ABizzel13837d ago (Edited 3837d ago )

"If it wasn't damage control, why they didn't cover this part in their first video?"

They covered the entire opening in their first video, but as they normally do with any other game, they focused on sections they felt would stress test the game, such as cities with NPCs, as they said here and in their newer analysis they didn't expect there to be performance drops in places that have absolutely nothing going on such as a small corridor with no enemies, or alpha effects where the PS4 versions of games generally perform MUCH better than the XBO versions such as GTAV alpha effects (which I'm sure you've read by now, since you're posting this comment a day later and it's was a top news story already that morning).

"I thought their analysis was more in-depth than NX gamer one? Why suddenly xbox one doesn't drop to 0 frames?"

The XBO drops to 0 fps during transitions between areas within cities, and if there was any kind of bias, as you so ignorantly proclaim, DF wouldn't have been the ones producing articles about using a faster HDD to help with performance on the XBO version.

"WHy it works better in every combat situation?"

It doesn't work better in every combat situation. There are places where the PS4 version drops significantly, and there are places where it's ahead of the XBO version as well, but most of the time the results are similar.

"Why in their first video they didn't mention ps4 drops to 15 fps during combat?"

Again because the combat it only happens in specific combat situations. It's not something that happens in the vast majority of combat sections, so it wasn't something they reported, because they more than likely weren't aware of the issue. This is a 100 hour game.

You guys will believe any crap thrown at you.

You ignorant fans want something irrelevant to complain about, when the real issue is why is the game performing this horrendous on all platforms (even the PC version suffers from these issues, but thankfully with better hardware you can power through it).

Take the BS somewhere else.

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user99502793838d ago

honestly, I bet both sites run these tests over and over until they get two videos that fit their agenda. Its all a bunch of bull, there is nothing consistent about any of this crap. At least now NX and DF can fling poop at each other until a happy medium is reached.

Rookie_Monster3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

Yup, looks like damage control to me. Kind of curious why they did a preview test right at the launch of the game and proceeded to downplay the xb1 version with quotes like the infamous "0 fps" that no one seems to be able to detect. LoL

What made it worst is the person that did the pre test openly stated he don't like the XBOX or MS. Now that the truth has came out, he is trying to save his reputation. Too funny to me.

Also, they also tried their best to try to downplay the Rise of the Tomb Raider game but having put in over 5 hours in the game this far, It is a beautiful looking game that runs smoothly. Just to show these DF tests are nothing but propoganda tools and not what it will be in real world gameplay experience.

Well, glad the xb1 version and PS4 versions perform similarly.

Christopher3837d ago

***Just to show these DF tests are nothing but propoganda tools and not what it will be in real world gameplay experience. ***

I think that's a bit strong. I admit that they show the 'extremes' of issues on all platforms, but to say that they're propaganda is a bit much, IMHO.

MasterCornholio3837d ago (Edited 3837d ago )

@Christopher

"but to say that they're propaganda is a bit much, IMHO"

Yeah i agree with you. Sounds like a theory a crazy person would come up with. Ive heard both sides of the story and that Sony is paying off DF for the comparison and Microsoft is paying off NX for the comparison.

Absolutely crazy in my opinion.

http://i292.photobucket.com...

DOMination-3838d ago

I'm playing on ps4 and can absolutely confirm frequent albeit one or two second long frame drops. Nothing crazy bad but its definitely a thing.

Liqu1d3837d ago

Lol, I love these "damage control" comments from the fanboys. Both versions run equally as crap at times, neither one is better.

BallsEye3837d ago (Edited 3837d ago )

yep, DF at it's finest again. Everyone know they're biased towards ps4, they did admit it on neogaf. Fallout 4 runs like crap on both consoles, but drops to 15 fps is just too much...

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xHeavYx3838d ago (Edited 3838d ago )

Isn't it like the 3rd video from DF about Fallout?
Smells like damage control.
They are not even using the same gun for the comparison. Shotgun VS handgun.

04STIBluByU3838d ago

It seems like...DF does extensive test whereas NX does about a 1 hour test...DF at least tries variations...ie HDD, different areas, different cards and cpus(PC's). Not Damage control...

MasterCornholio3838d ago

I remember them doing the same with The Witcher 3. Nice thing about DF is that they update the analysis when patches come out.

dreadz743837d ago

incorrect and he tested different HD btw.

MasterCornholio3838d ago

Both appear equally as bad to me.

Christopher3837d ago

Pretty much my thoughts on the original article. Both have poor performance results, no matter how you look at it.

If you want to sit here and wag your thing about claiming one is slightly worse than the other, go ahead. Instead, we should all be demanding better overall from the developers when it comes to performance. Even if it's only occasional major drops in framerate, there's still a constant dip below 30 just from moving around.

MasterCornholio3837d ago

Instead of attacking each other we should be attacking this guy.

http://128.199.85.8/wp-cont...

He promised us a solid performance on consoles and look what we got?

A game with a terrible framerate.

DivineAssault 3838d ago

This game shouldve been polished before release.. I know patches will somewhat fix the issues later but still, the game needed more dev time.

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