Who cares because the 360 is an amazing machine that shouldn't be missed out on if your a gamer bottomline! This generation will be all about the games on 360 watch what I tell you and if you don't get one your only doing yourself a disservice! Please stop trying to downplay the 360 because you can't and if you guy's would use just a little common sense you would keep your traps shut because it's about to get really ugly come 2007 8 and 9! Trust me I understand that the PS3 is getting alot of bad press right now so take your anger out on Sony because they let you down and not us! Does anybody know if there's away to just completly keep someones posts from even appearing on my screen like blocking them?

Juevani, you make yourself look like a retard as well. Stupid kids.

The fastest selling console in history, is "disappointing". Hmmmmm...

just because the xbox1 had to die for the xbox 360 to sell like mad doesn't meant the ps2 needs to die for the ps3 to sell well. In fact the ps2 will probably be a big seller in the next-gen war along with the other 3 systems.
Anyway this gen war is really all about DS, PSP, 360, Wii, PS2, and the PS3. What sells is the war not what gen it is.

If u wanna compare so compare between 360 and ps3.The ps2 will die soon and u should be worry about the overhypd station.
Now,IF I want a console it mean I want games.
And to games must have great graphix.And great graphix is XBOX 360
I will ad some links to prove what im saying here:
http://www.hardcoreware.net...

http://www.itvidya.com/play...
http://dpad.gotfrag.com/por...

if U want more,I will give ya more.
now,when the devolopers says that 360 got better GPU=Graphix then it should be it.
not some fanboys who got screwed with some overhypd console.
And 2 all of ya who hype FN3 or 1080p or picture quality,take a look at this
Theatre: http://www.xbox365.com/news...
Now if ya got somthing 2 prove that these things R not true ad some links with some devolopers talking or just shut up.
And keep comfort u'r self with this comment:(the ps3 just got release, give it more time)
get ur self together and u better act like some 1 who got som brain.the ps3 was going 2 release at the same time as 360.devolopers started making games at the same time for ps3 and XBOX360.sooo

The PS2 had dissapointing sales in its first year as well.

Look how that turned out.

This year we watched Xbox 360 performing solidly in Europe and the U.S., although it has not become the next-gen console driver which PlayStation was in previous cycles. Despite the emergence of next-gen hardware, we expect the PS2 to continue generating significant software volumes until 2008, especially as the Xbox and GameCube are no longer addressing the player demographics of cheaper consoles. The PS2 turned around a potential software market decline in 2006.

Looking forward [to] 2007, Microsoft looks like it is deepening its software library at exactly the right time to compete with two platforms which are just getting out the starting gate. Gears of War, Lost Planet, Blue Dragon and Mass Effect are all exclusive to Xbox 360 and based on new IP. Sony and Nintendo may have a historic pull with gamers, but neither will be able to compete with the depth or quality of the Xbox 360's software library before late 2007, at the earliest. Whether new titles can drive Xbox 360 growth in the Japanese market, however, remains to be seen.

I dont know if GAYstation got brain either.
360 will sell 10 mill
what do u got? BS
pay 600 for somthing that dosnt have as good graphix as xbox 360,now u R the one with no brain..read this and maybe,I said maybe U will understand. http://www.itvidya.com/play...

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/por...
http://www.hardcoreware.net...

yeah thats why GOW (usin 90 of the systems power) looks equily the same as RFOM (a launch title of the PS3 usin less than 20% of the power) great graphics my asss.. man get ur act 2gether u've posted these link before and they're not interesting they've been made by an ms employee, who believes him?? not me and nobody els actuelly..

and I rather pay 599 for a complete nex-gen machine, 360?? $400 for the console, $250 for online, $200 2 watch hd movies, and $60 for 10 min. long games that looks like launch titles..

GOW use only 50% of 360 power.not just that
Cliffy be said that the have only scratchd the 360 power.
and GOW used only 4,5 GB on DVD
so plz dont make fool out of ur self

hahaha...RFOM WHO???
Perfect dark zero scored better than ur game(and it is a launch title 2)..LOOOOOOOL
I agree with ya beans .This Juevani
knows anything so just ignore him.PS3 cant handle GOW cuz it got less memory
thats why multi games are bad on it..BAAD..LOOOL

Now Im tired of postin on this artical, I've proved my point and ya couldnt fight it, ya just write *PS3 s*cks and blabla* so Im out peace, and 360 is Disappointing, hahahaha

The only reason why the 360 didn't sell better in 2006 it was because of the hype with other consoles. Sony strategy works for the most parts. Fake release dates(2-3), promises of better, obvious lead in graphics and power and brand recognition. Most people were waiting for the PS3 to show its true colors before making a desicion. I personaly know at least 9 people that no longer want the PS3 that were waiting for it. When they see me they tell me, "I turned in to the dark side(microsoft) and I'm no longer a Sony fanboy." Also the PS2 had some very good game in 2006, now that developers will be focusing on current gen consoles lets see how things look. Sony, exploit and used their brand, hype and promises to everyone seconds thoughts before buying anything that didn't have Sony on. The samething happened with the PSP, people bought it even before it had any good games(I was one of them) just because it was Sony and I was a fanboy. Then people realised the ds was a better choice, it took a while but now the ds is killing the psp. The story here, now that the PS3 is out and people get to see living proof between the consoles now people can make a desicion.

Just because the sales of the 360 did not meet this analyst's projections, he says they're disappointing and he doesn't know why. Just goes to show you analysts don't know much (I'm an analyst by profession). I believe the reason the PS2 continues to sell well is because like all consoles at the end of it's life cycle, price drops bring out bargain hunters. It also had a good library of games. It still may do well in 07 because of it's installed base so developers will continue to support it, but it will eventually fade out (late 07-08). As for next gen systems, I think a lot of gamers played the wait and see game. Now that the all three systems are out they can compare and any non bias person will attest that right now the 360 comes out on top graphics and game library wise, and with a great lineup in 07, it'll do really well (especially if there is a price drop). The PS3 just didn't live up to the hype and with all the mediocre/bad reviews it's been getting, combined with it's $600 price tag, will continue to struggle, which means more developers will look to the 360 to make $$. As for the wii, I think the fad will fade. Have you seen the release schedule? Pretty weak. The 360 will have a good 07.

Person on this site and here`s why, He is still comparing a old console that`s $129 with a large library of games(with a lot of sales repeat customers due to the ps2 breaking) to a new nextgen console with a higher price tag! compare the ps3 to the 360 and talk then! It`s a proven fact that you can find a ps3 for retail or under the retail price on ebay! It`s also a proven fact that the sony launched with about 400,000 consoles in the us(if that much) and one week later people were able to walk into bestbuy and get one as it was just sitting there! XBOX 360 launched with 1.5 million consoles and people like me had to wait til two weeks later to get one that was reserved at EB Games and Gamestop! Also, months afterwards they were still filling pre-orders at those stores until march! No one is buying the ps3 at that rate! Kingboy stop being such an @$$ and post stories comparing the same games on each console! I never see you post any comment when the ps3 is getting it`s @$$ handed to them! Where were you when the ps3 lost at the apollo theatre in N.Y. with Fight Night Round 3 side by side on a 40 inch Samsung 1080p lcd?! The ps3 lost even with fnr3 for the ps3 having more dev time! The game still looked and played better on the 360! EA started development for Fight Night 3 on the ps3 first as proven at E3 05 when it was stated by EA that it couldn`t be done on the 360! Then they recieved the 360 dev kits and the rest is history with a quicker dev time, and the ps3 still lost! Get It? Got It? Good!

3 accounts in which he uses to attack other members with curses!

Now I like all three of the new gen systems. I am by no means a fanboy but personally I dont see whats wrong with the PS3. It's got different approaches then what Xbox has. Instead of an ATI card it chose Nvidia which currently has the best graphics cards I might add. They all chose IBM but Sony picked the Cell processor , sure it may be harder to program than the 3 core but its got more potential and can handle alot more. Now theres the issue with the RAM, in reality the PS3 does have 512 MB, just spread out shall we say. Xbox has a 512 MB Cache , but truth be told its spread out to so it would be just equal to the PS3. When you analyze both they have to have atleast 256 Main RAM and they have to have RAM in the GPU. The Xbox360 could hit the 10 Mill mark but I myself doubt it considering 1 more week of december and they only have 8.5 Mill sold. But when all in all is said you should just buy all 3 of the consoles, they all have the strong points and weaknesses. After all it just takes one person to buy a PS3 and then when everyone else wants one so will you.

oh crap i just post nothing but latest news and if it hurts your feelings then i suggest you take some pain killers ..don`t call me in your whatever wars u fighting on here.

PS2, a 6 years old machine sold almost euqlly as 360 this year, maybe even better. For even without a next-gen competition, 360 has sold around 8 mill. as of yet.

If you new in gaming and want a system that has the biggest industry standard titles, largest collection in each genre, very very inexpensive, has Wii like games, plays DVD movies like 360 and much more, then PS2 is your system.

If you want to go next-gen and keep all the above thing and add a fortune-load of more, then go for PS3 !!! besides purchasing Wii is so current-gen and expensive when you can do better with a much less costly system, and 360 is so in-between(transition) that in another year you'll feel you wasted your money.

wasn't gamasutra the site that was setup with the help of sony?

Sony fanboys have realized that the PS3 is a huge dissappointment. Sony, as a company, is getting spanked on all fronts, except one. Samsung is dominating Sony when it comes to TVs. Nintendo is significantly ahead in the portable market. Toshiba is winning the new optical format war. Sony Pictures has some of the lamest movies out there, with the possible exception of Spiderman 3. Most devestating for fanboys, however, is that Microsoft's next-gen console is putting Sony's to shame.

The only thing fanboys have left to cling to is the PS2, the last successful venture by Sony. Even though the PS2 is going to die out soon, as all technology advances, and even though it is a $120 machine with a vast library of games in its 6th year that should not be compared to a $400 machine with a budding library of games in it 1st year as it's just nonsense, this is all fanboys have left. It's like the last floating board of a sinking ship. Let them cling to it all they want. Eventually they'll either drown or do what many others are doing and switch to a new product.

will pick up. The PS3 is a huge dissapointment. It's flaws are already showing. The in-game graphics are pixalated and jaggy at HD resolutions? Developers have to trade off performance features (HDR, AA, and texture resolution) to get the games running. That's what happens when you use a GPU released in 2005. The 360 does HDR and AA with no impact on GPU performance. After seeing the PS3 in action, your clearly paying mostly for a Blu-Ray drive with game capabilites that DO NOT match the 360's. But you fanboys will swear this is the true next-gen.

The articel is correct, Microsoft iIS doing everything right with superior hardware, multimedia, and online. The problem is Sony brainwashed the public into thinkingg the PS3 was going to be the holy grail of gaming. We all know this turned out to be false. Get over it fanboys. You will have some good games come out, but will never catch up to 360's ever increasing level of performance. Enjoy your Poo-Ray movies while the industry still supports that format.

and Sony's hype kept a lot of people from buying it. The difference now is, Sony's hype hasn't been good enough to keep the 360 from selling, and now that people are seeing Sony's hype as just that, they will be buying more 360's now.

What?

Analysts?

Like that guy Pachter says:

"Sony promised nothing (yes, they screwed up the quantities, but did not suggest that retailers advertise or take [PS3] pre-orders); consumers expected nothing"

You must be living in a very strange world then

Sony is constantly overpromissing & underdelivering. Sounds like a lot of Sony love, paid for it guys?

Now the launch of the PS3 isn't very promissing. No AAA title, only Resistance and Motorstorm to be allright, good games but that's that. All multiplatform games are better on the 360.

Ah well, selling numbers speak for themselves:

"28.3%
pick Xbox 360 consoles sold

8,798,403

market share:

17%
pick PS3 consoles sold

492,130"

360 is outselling the PS3 by a factor 7 each day

I just remembered something too, this might interest you Xbots. Some Xbot told me once, Microsoft are ladies men, and Sony are nerds who have no life. http://lazerbrody.typepad.c... <--- ladies man huh?

I have no problem with these assumptions. Sony Fans can continue to play in the last generation with the PS2, and I'll continue to enjoy the next generation with my 2 XBOX 360's.

What about unreal tournament 2007,did you check the screenshots on ps3, xboxfanboys.Much better than gow.
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3...

I just went to an electronics store:
Sold out=Xbox360, Wii, and PS3
Not to mention all of the DS's were sold out.

The only video games system in stock for $125.00=the PS2. Oh. And the PSP. It is great the analysts are making all of their calls before the end of the holiday season, but it looks like every console is doing well... and the PS2 is only selling because it is cheap.

I would also like to say HUZZAH for the "system" working. All of Juevani's accounts have one bubble.

got here 360 fanboy is on the attack hahahahah.
hlarious fanboy crying like a monkey.
all i know is yul got onwed by kingboy

while u 360 fans buzy bashing sony im rigth here plying PS3 , yup Resistance s awsome free online play , motorstorm so close to that E3 video damn .
i wish 360 fans was like ths playing there 360 not bashing.

even thou PS3 got poor launch line up of games. the PS3 itself make me want to use PS3 a lot.
WEB BROWSER,FREE ONLI NE PLAY,BLURAY,WATCHING YOUTUBE VIDEO N MUCH MORE .

IM OUT IMA PLAY SOME FNR3 C U GUYZ NEXT WEEK BEECHES.

OWNER OF PS3
Wii COMING SOON
360 NAH I SOLD IT BOUGHT PS3 INSTEAD HEHEHE DON'T HATE IS WHAT I DO SO GO F4CK URSELF BEECHS

24 - spawn stop wasting your time with me
kingboy - 2 Hours ago | Let him/her speak
oh crap i just post nothing but latest news and if it hurts your feelings then i suggest you take some pain killers ..don`t call me in your whatever wars u fighting on here.

^^This clown is no different than "Juevani-1-2, he spends all day looking for news and good PR for PS3 also digging up bad news articals for the 360 to spite it's fans amd MS.

All day, that's all he does, don't let him fool you he's one of the most hardcore Sony fans on this site and all he does is spite.

That pic is wonderful! great find Kingboy!
PS3 ALL THE WAY!!

Analysts are all idiots? Not to bash the PS2 cuz I'm lovin Final Fantasy 12 right now, but it's like each analyst is throwin out a different opinion and in 5 years, yippee, one of em ends up being right. The 360 didn't have a disappointing year. We'll see how the sales go once the prices start dropping and the casual gamers upgrade.

I can't believe the enormous amount of foolishness on this " news " post. Really , how stupid can you be ? I don't understand why these Waitstation news posters are constantly comparing the 360 to the PS2. What don't you get ? As you can see nobody with half a brain cares. They are not competing devices.

Secondly it is becoming glaringly obvious that the PS3 camp left on this site or mostly in the 12 - 15 year old range and younger as the posts keep getting more and more childish and desperate everyday. Soon it will degrade into a " Well , my Dad can beat up your Dad " situation. Pathetic in the fullest.

Third no matter how much you stomp your feet and cry the Xbox 360 is the next gen leader and will be for a long time. More industry insiders and analysts are picking the 360 to either DOMINATE the PS3 or are calling it as a WASH an even fight, than there are PS3 supporters. In my opinion the PS3 was a lame horse out of the starting gate and destined to fail. It is not a good VIDEO GAMING DEVICE and Sony is horrible for the hobby of video games.

Why would anybody want to buy a f*cking PS2 now that next gen systems are here? You know, P.O.S. Honda Civics sale like crazy but I would take the Mercedes benz any day.

The ps2 is cheap and when kids want a system and they have no job they go to there parents and they get them one of the cheapest ones. Its just that the extreamly causal gamer and kids out number the hard core gamers

First off, I love the PS3 and Xbox 360. Yes, the 360 has a better GPU which means better graphics, however, the PS3 is much more capable in physics calculations (i.e. explosions, multiple enemies). There are of a ton of people pushing graphics here saying what is better, but really, it's getting to the point where the difference is so small in graphics. Physics card sales for the PC have steadily increased over the years, so more people are looking for realism. Now the PS3 wont make 360 games look like the physics are way off, but here is an example. The developers for Burnout can keep track of more pieces of wreckage in the PS3 than the 360 because of the shear calculating power.

Despite having absolutely no competition, it only managed to sell 3.8 million units over the course of 12 months in North America. It had a free ride, but almost nothing happened. Now that a lower price competitor and a higher spec competitor are on the market, it's hard to tell whether they'll surpass that sales mark next year or not.

WE ALL KNOW THAT THE X-BOX 360 HAS THE VERY BEST GAMES NOW & FUTURE. YOU KNOW THERE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS IN THIS WORLD THAN WHO HAS THE MOST FANTABULUS GAME SYSTEM, GROW UP PEOPLE!

thought to look up how many 360's have been bricked. you know since xbox fans keep rubbing 10 mill sold by christmas in ppl face

my guess is at least 1 mill "world wide"

...is a generation of transition, in which the crown will be ripped from $ony and placed on Microsoft. I hope they will continue their masterful engineering and execution into the following generation as well.

My comment was based off of the other comments on this article. See, that's what conversation is. Conversation usually grows into another topic. Read the rest of the comments. You'll see that almost no one actually talked about the cost of game development, and instead this forum just turned it to 360 vs. PS3. However, I made a valid point in a decent manner instead of mindlessly droning on like a fanboy. So try not taking a hissy fit next time.

* You'll see that almost no one talked about the sales of the three systems, and instead...

u sony worshippers dont know wen to quit do u? the only reason i and many others got ps2s was cus we were tricked into getting em, and after a while, we got bored, it was nothing like n64 t any of us. the 360 is the only thing that has not only measured up to our expectations, but has far surpassed them since launch. give other brands a real try, dont be so narrow-minded, gets u nowhere in life.

I couldn't care how many consoles the bs3 sells, I know like you know that it was all hype and isn't at all impressive. The xbox 360 is where it's at for me plain and simple, sony can pack up and move back to japs ville, with that trash.

to add to my comments above think of it this way. Since people like comparing the PS3 and 360 with sports cars....

The reason both consoles are on different planes is because it's like comparing a Honda Civic to a Ferrari. In sales a Civic destroys the Ferrari, BUT THEIR both cars so why does comparing them seem ridiculous.

even attempted to look up that number of tossed 360's for me. cus this is something i would really like to know

i want no known ps3 fans to give me a number. this is purely Xbox fans only

Big disappointment how can they not know that the retarded system isn't even using the real graphics of its hardware to produce like the ones in Gears of War which is actually running by Unreal Engine 3 lol gamers were atrattected to that game cause of its graphics and that g@yass weapon chainsaw like wow that is so impressive !NOT! the blood in the game didn't even look real

Sir Nathaniel you gave Sony 5 years to wow you they don't even know who you are dumbass what are you some kind of a total retard or something cause that is what you are considering how retarded you must be in every way like Gears of War was that excitiing that game was so pathetic everybody was so stupid to believe that game was good when clearly that game was bad the only reason they bought that game because of the graphics and the weapon that has a chainsaw atattched and lets think about it if Gears of War didn't have that kind of good graphics people wouldn't even buy it not even for the weapon chainsaw maybe some stupid ones but not all.