Honestly couldn't care less about what goes on in the business side of things. "think about those pitboy editions" How about just releasing a game instead of making a million different BS versions? When I buy a brand new game I don't want to have to sit there half an hour waiting for a day one patch. Also filling up hard drive space. As for "just enjoy the damn game because people are working hard for your pleasure" that's the kind of attitude that publishers love. No complaining please just eat what we feed you. Point is big day one patches are bloody annoying and it's inconvenient for the gamer. I understand it's to make the game better but if there are that many problems to begin with just delay the game.

Funny cause the main ammo against pc use to be broken games, digital, and having to be online.

Sooooooo what about the console gamers without internet. If its a game breaking bug I guess they should be quite huh. Most games these days have day one patches to make the run correctly or work period. And these patches are eating up data caps and hogging bandwidth. Funny how things are bad one day and acceptable another.

Gone are the plug and play days of consoles . go to the store buy a game, get home put it in, and "wait" for a "patch" lol. Beginning of last gen people use to scream from the rooftops about stuff like but its cool now. Week later finally got free time let play some more... Wait firmware update. Isn't that like a system and driver update. Wait wasn't that bad lol. My god it just gets worst and worst how this group look saying one thing to say another the next day, completely forgetting about the rest of the fanbase.

This not directed at you just rambling. Just think it's funny that mostly everything that people say they don't like about and bash pc about is on consoles

Ninty gets no credit for making sure their games work correctly a launch. Funny how that works.

@someonecalled So, we should just have let console games stay the size/complexity of their n64/psone counterparts then right?

Because it couldn't possibly be true that by vastly improving the games in every way (graphically, AI, environment, objectives etc.) yet having to keep a similar time frame on development it's made it easier for bugs to slip through. No, bet it was those lazy developers who just don't care about their game.

There is a huge difference of having bugs in the game that need a small patch AND COMPLETELY SENDING OUT BROKEN GAMES THAT REQUIRE HALF THE GAMES WORTH OF DATA. Not to mention the new Tony Hawk game released with just the tutorial level and the rest of the game was in these so called "AMAZING" day 1 patches....are you telling me a whole game being added on was because of a bug? I don't think so.

Obviously I know that but HOW MANY games in the past year alone have released completely broken with a day 1 patch to fix it...you think that is okay? Sorry, I want to buy my games good to play the minute I get home or wake up not wait a few hours for 17gbs worth of stuff they didn't put in to cut corners. I understand the benefit of patches which is awesome we live in a time that can happen but when you have a 25gb game and are adding on 17 more then you should have delayed the game to make sure it was finished.

I think the main problem is that patching is being misused by most publishers, in the rest of the software industry you would have to hold back your release of it was known to be broken, I'm not sure why games should be an exception.