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It's Almost Certain Now That Xbox One Will Never Catch PS4

Xbox Head Phil Spencer made headlines this week where in an interview with VideoGamer, he admitted that he was uncertain if the Xbox One will ever catch up to the PS4 this console generation.

In truth, this is just reality catching up with him. Looking at the numbers and the overall trajectory of this console race, despite that fact that we’re only two years in, it seems as if it’s almost impossible that Xbox One will ever be able to catch PS4.

FlexLuger3884d ago

I just wanted to add the obligatory "well of course not...look at the sales lead" followed by the "anybody who thinks otherwise is delusional" closing comment. Fill out the in between words and make your own comment.

Game4Next3884d ago

Dozens of AAA JRPGs, Microsoft, Dozens of AAA JRPGs.

HaveSumNuts3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

MS made stupid moves initially always online DRM TV TV TV reveal, mandatory kinect at launch and having the less powerful console. Like what did people expect? Its like shooting yourself in the foot..... with an automatic gun because the fails just kept on coming. The console has made a lot of improvements since then into a worthy competitor but first impressions mean a lot to people. MS talked about all the terrible shit they were about to do so confidently but because people lashed out at them, they quickly changed their act. We have a saying for something like that... being 2 faced.

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Mrveryodd3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Not everyone likes them , hell I hate them

GenuineGamer3883d ago

Havesumnuts do u even know what being 2 faced means? learning from your mistakes beit from a loud community or whatever reason and then changing for the better is not being two faced.

NatureOfLogic_3883d ago

The best console will sell better. It's that simple. The Xbox brand is simply not as strong as the Playstation brand. The only reason 360 did so great last gen was because of the one year headstart they had. I remember laughing at people who thought Xbox could compete with Playstation head to head like ms attempted.

Dee_913883d ago

@HaveSumNuts
They pretty much lied.. They claimed those things were integral and couldn't be removed, but lo and behold. MSFT will never have my respect. When I get an xbone it will be used.

@GenuineGamer
There's a difference between learning and being pressured.

Jmanzare3883d ago

The best console is not the best selling console. With that argument you could also assume Justin beiber is one of the best musicians in the world and McDonald's is the best restaurant. The best console is the one your favorite games are on... And that's it.

Raiden3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Q??? For gaming fans out there, PS4 is for the gamers, so the ads say correct, so where are they??

Q??? Which are the game companies the created DRM, EA, BLIZZARD, ACTIVISION, MS and guess who else, (((SONY))) these are just some of the publishers who were in favour of it,(WHY? BECAUSE THIS WAS WHAT THE GAMING INDUSTRY WANTED) DRM became EA ACCESS. That E3 conference MS WENT FIRST HAD SONY GONE FIRST AND MENTIONED DRM THEY WOULD HAVE EA ACCESS.

ALWAYS ON WAS MS 100% IT WAS TO DO WITH THE CLOUD COMPUTING.

This is why it has taken them so long to get it going, because you need to login/signing within 24hrs or once a week to allow for updates that was all.

Your console didn't need to stay on all the time, anyway it's in the past now, I'm just passed that I wasted my money on this DAM PS4.

THIS IS FOR THE GAMERS BS SONY I DON'T WANT BS INDIES AND GAMES I CAN'T PLAY OFFLINE (great console tho) more games please I spent my money, right.

TheCommentator3882d ago

@Dee

I searched for a few minutes, but I can't seem to find a relevant article discussing MS "lying" about what could be removed. I know the features were all integrated into the machine but in the articles I remember reading, MS suggested that it wouldn't be easy (cheap?), not that it couldn't be done.

I know I could be wrong here, so if anyone can provide links I'm sure we'd all appreciate it.

Dee_913882d ago

@TheCommentator
Well articles don't need to be presented in this case to prove that MS lied about anything. If you saw the interviews and articles pre-release and even after release ( regarding the kinect) where they specifically stated that those "features" couldn't be removed because they were " needed" and were "integral" for the "true xbox experience" or whatever, you should come to the same conclusion that they lied, and or mislead the community. If you want to twist and squiggle around specifics and talk about what they " didn't say" to make it seem like they meant " it would be difficult to be removed", you can do that. But speaking generally, they made it seem as if these "features" couldn't be removed... They fought for them..

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Lenrulesdaworld3883d ago

I noticed for a while but never really wanted to to say but the writer for forbes is Bias & a fanboy. My opinion though, from my observation.

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Zeref3883d ago

If this gen lasts 10 years then it still has a chance. It's only been 3 years. The PS3 didn't catch up until the very end.

Cuzzo633883d ago

Uuuum. The ps3 was outselling the 360 the whole time. Just not in the U.S. but worldwide 360 was being dominated almost month after month... Theoretically the Ps3 sold better world wide. Same as this Gen. Same will happen. Even after over a year head start they still came out as the top console between the two sales wise

madmonkey013883d ago

ps3 was outselling the 360 from launch

otherZinc3883d ago

The XBOX ONE will win October, November, and December and will be the North American Sales leader by December 31st 2015.

Rockstar3883d ago

Now take off your fanboy glasses and use your head.

Ra30303883d ago

I do agree with you that Xbox will win the NPR Holiday sales for North America but I'm not so sure they'll sell enough to over take The PS4 North American lead that it has now . I think Xbox wins but very close and as far as the rest of the world the PS4 will outsell the X1 by at least 2 million and maybe much, more. Microsoft has waaaaaay to many trust issues outside of the United States and the new Win10 OS user agreement is only going to hurt Microsoft and Xbox more. I think that trust issue with Microsoft is the single biggest reason the PS4 is outselling X1 in America plus the PS4 being a great console doesn't hurt. Many people too include myself can't trust Microsoft anymore and they could care less to address that problem or even admit they have one.

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Rockstar3875d ago (Edited 3875d ago )

I'll just leave this here...

http://n4g.com/news/1807374...

It's September but we'll see how it goes...

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Gozer3883d ago

The question is "who cares"? Neither MS, or Sony are putting a roof over my head, or food on my table. The opposite is actually true. Im enjoying their product, that is the only I care about.

headblackman3883d ago

i don't know if anyone ever told this writer or anyone commenting in favor of this nonsense, that almost and never doesn't go together (the two words contradict themselves). saying almost shows how unsure the writer is of his claims. no one knows, and it would be nice if raggedy posts like this could stop being post. now if the writer somehow creates a crystal ball or some fortune telling device, then cut the crap out because anything could happen between now and the end of these consoles life cycles. but an agenda of propaganda is still at large. IF YOU TELL A PEOPLE SOMETHING FOR A LONG TIME AND DRILL IT INTO THEIR HEADS, EVENTUALLY THEY WILL START TO BELIEVE IT. <----------(this is the science behind the propaganda)

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Relientk773884d ago

It's been obvious for awhile

TwoForce3883d ago

Of course, it is. Right now, MS need to focus on games. But next time, they need to think twice.

Lennoxb633883d ago

The lineup that X1 came out with was planned to come out on X1 before it even launched. How was it not focused on games?

Fro_xoxo3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

Now that we know the PS4 will be the best selling console of the 8th gen, what happens next? *scratches the fro*

The benefits thus far has been mainly exclusive content/dlc and street fighter exclusivity. Still hasn't stopped XO securing a deal like Rise of the Tom Raider..

What does the company with the most market share do for me as a gamer? I still need other platforms to play other games like Halo, Zelda, XCOM 2...

A genuine question..

So, why should I be concerned that one console isn't selling as well as the other?

SpaceRanger3884d ago

"So, why should I be concerned that one console isn't selling as well as the other?"

An answer is that there's no need to be concerned about it. People are choosing it for a multitude of reasons. Maybe not as many people, but there's people who are.

Sales only makes a difference for the future, not the present. People really shouldn't be surprised in the future of their console of choice doesn't get as much support as others that may sell better. The Wii U (I own one) is a perfect example of that.

Aloy-Boyfriend3884d ago (Edited 3884d ago )

The Internet people have become really annoying when talking about this subject. Now that the PS4 has the lead, they feel the need to say they don't care about it or trash other with their stupid generalizations. Now we the Playstation fans only care about sales

Everybody cares in one way of another. The stupid fanboys were too Busy caring about it when their console of choice had the lead in the past to come with their annoying remarks when the unexpected happens.

I'm happy the PS4 is in the lead for the sole reason that it benefits the brands and bring more support. nothing else. Am I wrong? I would have loved the Dreamcast had this success. Such a great console and my all time favorite one died too soon!

I don't blame sales or anything for Ps4's lack of AAA content this holiday, nor I think they are being complacent. They have showed many games and they still have 2 more events coming. If the games aren't ready to be released, they aren't, Period! Now what will more sales do? They will bring more!

slate913883d ago

@spaceranger,

True, but comparing the sales of the x1 to the wii u is a bit of a stretch. Considering the xbox one is selling faster than the x360, theres really no reason to believe that support will be considerably less than the playstation.

Now if the x1 was selling worse than the 360, there would be problems imo.

AceBlazer133883d ago

Go ask wii u owners if they care about sales, sales sure wouldve helped that system. Thank god nintendo has consistently good exclusives.

Sales= Market Share, Market share means more games for your system, especially if you're a lover of a niche genre like jrpg for example the more market share the better chances u have of niches being catered to, devs would be willing to take a chance.

DLConspiracy3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Well if any of the 2nd and 3rd place sales consoles this gen become the strongest most powerful console next gen. We are going to see a bunch more hypocritical nonsense and antics in the comments for neXT gen.. Back and forth.

Zepherite3882d ago

@AceBlazer13 Niche JRPGs would go to Sony even if there were more xboxes out there (i.e. exactly what happened last gen).

It would take more than that to convince Japanese developers to develop exclusively for a non Japanese company (see early mistwalker games last gen, Scalebound this gen)

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Spotie3884d ago

There's no need for concern. But look at history: some things DO happen as a result of one console dominating.

Usually, that means more software support at the very least. Hell, you think third parties would have even bothered with Wii versions of titles like Call of Duty or Madden if it weren't for the ridiculous install size that all but guaranteed some sort of return on investment? Would Dead or Alive ever have been ported to PS2 had that console not been printing money?

And that's before we get to the third party exclusives.

There's also the bonus of there being potentially more people to play online with. That's gonna be attractive to developers and publishers, too.

This is really stuff that you could have looked to the past to figure out.

Zepherite3882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

You're partially right of course but game development is very different now compared to the ps2 days or even the early days of last gen. Used to be that developing for more than one platform was a big undertaking.

It's no where near as difficult to develop for more than one platform especially with engines you can buy into that are built for several platforms. Hell with unity, compiling for two different platforms is almost getting to the point where you are selecting the platform from a drop down menu.

The market share for XBOne is large enough that unless you are a VERY small developer it would make no sense NOT to develop for both.

Other than the odd smaller game and Indy (excluding first party of course), XBox One is going to get 99% the same support that the PS4 gets. The only thing that will skew that is how much money Microsoft or Sony are willing to throw at developers (See deals with Destiny, Scalebound, Bloodbourne, Tomb Raider, Street Fighter V, Sunset Overdrive, Shenmue 3, Titanfall etc.)

Fro_xoxo3884d ago

@XiKurapikaKurta

I asked the question because we keep getting articles stating the obvious. So it seems the media/fanboys want people to care.

Outside of the minority online, no one cares who's selling more consoles. There's no 'cause for concern so there's nothing to worry about.

"The stupid fanboys were too Busy caring about it when their console of choice had the lead in the past "

It seems you have an agenda with anonymous people online. That's your problem.

There's this notion here that people are tied down to one console. Having a preference does not mean you're stuck with one console.

There are retailers like Argos selling PS4 bundles for €349.99. I could easily get one right now If I wanted to. It isn't a big deal.

Folks take this stuff too seriously.

We buy what like for what we like not for cooperate reasons.

TwoForce3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

What stupid is that you changed your judgement after Xbox One got backslash in 2013. You said sales don't matter, well it does. Quality equal quantity. I can bet Halo 5 will sell a lot of copies and let see you how sales matter to you or not. Look at Bloodborne, that game sales 1 million copy and i happy that quality and quantity does matter. You are just focusing just one, that's just make me feel angry. I know you won't respond my comments because you think my comments are annoying. Just remember this, don't be idiots. Right now, MS focus on games. But next time, they need to think twice that sales does matter of all industries.

n4rc3883d ago

success isnt based on what another company does..

whats xbox up to now? 15m maybe... better then the 360.. so if ps4 didnt exist, xbox one is a success right?

so how does their existence suddenly mean the exact same feat is now a failure? it doesnt..

another point people miss entirely.. MS could drop the price down to $100 and sell 100m.. would it mean they are now crushing the ps4?

its awesome your choice came out on top.. and im sure you enjoy throwing it in certain peoples faces, but dont try to make it more then it is..

jb2273883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Well beyond what you'd already mentioned, that the leading platform typically gets the most exclusive content from 3rd parties, MS could pull a Wii U and push out a successor sooner rather than later. They may be interested in catching Sony on their back foot and put out a more powerful machine in a couple years time in order to rush this close of this gen. I don't think MS would necessarily be against that, as they came late in the cycle for the OG xbox, I would imagine they wouldn't mind pulling out of this one and pushing forward to the next. In which case exclusives would dry up for this cycle, again just like the Wii U. We are seeing direct evidence of what happens when a console starts to fail currently so you don't have to look too far really. All of this is assuming that MS isn't fine with the sales they currently have when they definitely should be considering the XBO is outpacing the 360. So it could amount to nothing more than MS throwing around a lot of cash to secure exclusives that would otherwise be handed to them on a silver platter. In RotTRs instance it will be a very important deal because if it fails badly then the money MS would have to pay to secure third party exclusives may rise significantly. Best case scenario is that MS stops worrying about third party, funnel all their money into first party content & studios, and end up with the best games catalog in MS history. Hopefully that's the route it all goes, happened with Sony last gen, and in that case the low sales mattered because it ultimately benefited all gamers alike.

Bobafret3883d ago

MS already had a far more powerful console with the original Xbox, and that didn't help at all.

jmac533883d ago

It doesn't really matter but you are seeing better 3rd party ports on the ps4 because it is now the lead platform. The same could have been said for the 360 last generation.

Zepherite3882d ago

I Think that's probably more to do with the disparity in power.

The architecture is so similar and most engines built to be cross platform from the ground up that it would be almost inexcusable if the disparity were to do with there being a lead platform. I'm not even sure there is a 'lead' platform in the traditional sense any more.

Magnes3883d ago

I thought the same thing of my beloved Dreamcast. luckily MS have a lot more money than Sega.

PreAtaric3883d ago

"What does the company with the most market share do for me as a gamer?"

"I still need other platforms to play other games like Halo, Zelda, XCOM 2…"

As someone who games on every platform you shouldn't be concerned with this topic at all, but I'd bet that you're in the minority. It's just a guess on my part, though it seems to be backed up by the various deals these companies make for exclusive games and content, but I think those who game on only one or two platforms significantly outnumber those who game on every platform.

Short answer : The better selling platform tends to get more support from developers and publishers.

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA30d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY30d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay30d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos30d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7230d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY30d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator30d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum30d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z30d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad31d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga31d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot30d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose31d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE31d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername30d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy31d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde31d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8631d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8631d ago (Edited 31d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole31d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300031d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

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-Foxtrot31d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle31d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7731d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments