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JMaine5183883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Nice get Microsoft. They will now be making money off many games.

Harryseveruspotter3883d ago

O ye the are making money....!!!!

donthate3883d ago

...and people kept saying MS is selling Xbox division, yet at every turn MS keeps investing into gaming from MineCraft, DX12 to Havok.

Havok combined with Xbox Live Cloud Compute is going to be amazing! Looking forward to Crackdown 3 beta next summer! :D

nveenio3883d ago

@donthate, they could sell Xbox and still license out Havok and DX12 and make plenty of money off of the Minecraft franchise. People used to think Valve would make Half Life 3, but they've been making all the money they need off of Steam. Microsoft may just be thinking, "Hey, maybe they're onto something." The next generation of Xbox may be more like a Steam Machine than a traditional console.

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Gazondaily3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

They should rename it Xbox Havok. Would be a complete mind **** seeing that at the start of Uncharted 4 or other Playstation exclusives.

Mad acquisition. RKO outta nowhere. Half the games I see have that Havok logo in them. I wonder why Intel sold it?

gangsta_red3883d ago

@brofist

Or more tools for their first party studios to make better games.

4Sh0w3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

@brofist
"Lol more money that could've been spent on a first party studio. It's like monkeys making decisions"

-Yeah 'cause 1st party studio's don't need stupid stuff like a good physics engines even monkeys know games are made out of Elmers glue and pop sickle sticks.

@donthate
-Looks like PC World agrees with you:
"Microsoft gives more weight to gaming plans with Havok physics engine acquisition"
http://www.pcworld.com/arti...

-Naturally it makes sense, Microsoft has continued to invest heavily in gaming with Nadella on the record from day one that gaming is a priority and of course he appointed Phil to make it happen. I think this is a great acquisition since they will continue to licensing Havok's software to other companies including Nintendo and Sony for license fees. It's obviously a great physics engine due to its flexibility for a wide variety of genres which is why so many well known games like Halo, COD, Uncharted, Killzone, L4D, Mortal Kombat, Crackdown, Bioshock, I mean you name it have used it....I just like to see gaming divisions on any platform invest for the future= more games.

otherZinc3883d ago

Amazing! M$ is clearly going after the throat of gaming.

Halo 5 Guardians is going further this strategy October 27th.

Death3883d ago

Microsoft sells more than video games. It's silly to assume any money they spend should be used on video games instead. It's not difficult to look online and see how many studios they own and what they are working on. Since this gen started Microsoft has been releasing first party games pretty regularly. I'm not sure what people are comparing them to when they say they should do more.

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4Sh0w3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

@ColonelHugh
The only problem with your analogy is that sony does not own Blu-ray, they are 1 of about 20 Board of Director Members, while as of now unless I missed something Microsoft owns Havok. Plus the VC-1 codec used in Blu-rays is owned by Microsoft. Sony has no proprietary ownership of Havok's physics engine.

That said no need for any petty back and forth, Havok will still be used for sony games.

christocolus3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

@brofist

Wut?lmao. This move benefits Ms studios. Lmao. You guys. XD

@4show

Well said.

Foehammer3883d ago

"Part of this innovation will include building the most complete cloud service, which we’ve just started to show through games like “Crackdown 3.”

MS is about to take gaming to the next level.

Can't wait:

-Unmatched destruction
-effects like volumetric fog
-smarter and more NPCs

Genuine-User3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

@Septic

Why would it be a complete mind ****?

It'll be business as usual.

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fr0sty3882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

@4show

Sony owns a chunk of Blu-Ray, CD, and DVD. They get royalties for each. MS owns VC1 and WMV/WMA, both of which are in PS3 and PS4 (not sure about the latter with PS4, but PS3 does support it)... and now one of many physics middleware options.

End point, both pay each other for various technologies that they own patents for.

This move doesn't really strengthen their position in the console war, as there are other physics middleware options available and Sony can just code their own as well if they really needed to. However, this does open a new revenue stream, especially from third party developers.

nix3882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

Nothing.

It's just like starting Sony laptop and seeing Windows startup screen.

If they charge (Sony) more for developing games then that would be stupid bcoz there are lots of other game engines devs can buy. Hell.. Sony's teams can make own engines and share it around.

Gazondaily3882d ago

@ Genuine

"Why would it be a complete mind ****?

It'll be business as usual."

When have you seen Xbox or Playstation in the boot up for one of the opposing platforms?

_-EDMIX-_3882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

@Septic- ""Why would it be a complete mind ****?

It'll be business as usual."

When have you seen Xbox or Playstation in the boot up for one of the opposing platforms?"

?? Why are you so immature for? Do you think that because your a fanboy that MS and Sony are too? They are a business,

GenuineUser is 100% correct, this is business.

When do you we see MS on a non-MS platform? Anytime you use Windows Media licences ie right now for PS3 and PS4 (if it supports WMA that is), Windows is on Sony's Vaios (when they use to make em) and you can still use windows media licences on Sony devices, Sony owns a part of Bluray as they where one of the companies along with Panasonic that created it...you very much still see their name along with several other companies as credited for that format when used else where, You'll see MS's name in Minecraft when downloaded else where as they own the IP, you see Sony's name when Spider-man games are on other platforms...I'm sorry but you can't be this young as to just think Sony and Microsoft are like cats and dogs.

They are a business, as to why MS has Bluray in their system, they are a damn business, their goal is to MAKE MONEY, Sony's next media format they are working on, expect it to be a MS system down the line and for PC as a drive as its not some childish, immature, fanboy tog of war...they both work with each other in many, many different areas.

Sony's films and music are not BANNED on MS platforms lol, Sony's devices are not BANNED by MS on Windows and Minecraft is still on PS3 ,Vita and PS4, in fact it came out AFTER MS made that deal.

Minecraft Story by Telltale is coming to all platforms...MS clearly owns the IP being used.

Sooo no, MS isn't like you, they actually care about making money more than trying to win some silly battle.

Their battle is trying to make money, not fighting Sony LOL!

Sooo "Would be a complete mind **** seeing that" Yes..for someone who knows so little about the industry as to not know both companies work with each other often.

Or did you think that Diddy Kong Racing DS had nothing to do with Microsoft despite them owning the team? Both MS and Sony own so many licences that they both use from each other its not even funny. Your merely new to this concept.

Monster_Tard3882d ago

@_-EDMIX-_

Well said. Don't forget Viva Pinata for DS also.

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lxeasy3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

That's pretty huge news, I hope Microsoft continues to allow havoc to also work on third party games.
Congrats Microsoft

Kal0psia3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Of course they are, only way to make money. But I think the best version of this proprietary technology will be exclusive with it's cloud implemenations obviously.

Microsoft is a competitive monster, bunch of honey badters. Can't say the same for Sony. So nothing surprising.

OpieWinston3883d ago

All Major publishers games use Havok. Lots of revenue to be gained by Havok in the future. Especially if MS buys AMD and boosts it's Software support.

ITPython3883d ago Show
mkis0073883d ago

It python

That would be illegal dude...ftc would be aLl over them.

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ratchet4263883d ago

@Death,

Microsoft went to court (and lost) for *illegally tying* Internet Explorer to the Windows OS - claiming it was an intergral "feature" of Windows. Even though at the time there was a retail version of IE available as a separate product. The DoJ won and MS was convicted of being a predatory monopoly.

kickerz3883d ago

Excellent work Microsoft

Christopher3882d ago

@4show: They're not giving Win 10 away for free, they're giving you a free upgrade from Win 7 or Win 8. That's not free. Just wanted to make that distinction before we started the thought that it was completely free.

Death3882d ago

@Ratchet,

The issue with IE wasn't that it was integral to Windows, the issue was Netscape which owned the browser market with over 75% market share was selling their browser software. When Microsoft made internet browsing free, Netscape no longer had a business model. As the net grew and more people used it we did indeed see the vulnerability created for the OS through the browser. By having a significant share of the browser market, Microsoft has a better chance of correcting these exploits faster. The DOJ was unable to determine the significance the net has on OS security. The only thing they could see was Netscapes business losses since Microsoft gave a competing software solution away for free. I'm not sure how much of a win this was for the DOJ since Internet Explorer is still part of the Windows platform.

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rainslacker3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

It's actually a much bigger get than many people may realize. Havok is a very popular engine for use in the mid-tier Japanese market, and it's physics engine is used in about half the games out there.

@ITPython

I doubt that. That runs into the realm of anti-trust laws. They'd more likely just give discounts to their partners.

UKmilitia3882d ago

well its great for microsoft because with sony easily outselling them,now MS will be earning from Sony so its win win for MS.

very clever move but i stick with my ps4,although xb1 is moving up my xmas list every fast

Timesplitter143882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

What most people don't know is that Havok has almost become a full game engine a few years ago, not just a physics engine.

Maybe MS wants to enter the engine war by using Havok as a starting point?

Loktai3882d ago

... I just wanted to say. ...

Buy havok... and let slip the gears of war?

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Genuine-User3883d ago

Congratulations to Microsoft. This is a big one.

Harryseveruspotter3883d ago

And i think they will do bigger in future....!!!!

Genuine-User3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

I hope they do for your sake. :p

d_g3883d ago

Yeah Microsoft is getting bigger and bigger in the gaming industry

Erik73573883d ago

Congratulations on them getting away from xbox and going more towards software like the company should

Lennoxb633883d ago

This isn't them "getting away" from xbox. This is them advancing it.

4Sh0w3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Yeah, that comment made my head hurt, like wtf?

lol, I mean yes its software because games are software but how is buying something that's a huge part of making games(software) for xbox one(hardware) which is a platform that plays games "getting away from xbox"????

Death3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Yeah, I'm not sure how acquiring Havok is "getting away from Xbox". I mean this is the headlines it created "Microsoft gives more weight to gaming plans with Havok physics engine acquisition" http://www.pcworld.com/arti...

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miyamoto3882d ago

Will this move force Sony to fully develop Naughty Dog's physics engine?

vega2753882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

"Will this move force Sony to fully develop Naughty Dog's physics engine?"

No it won't force sony to do anything. they could if they want to. But do you really think sony would put it's up coming exclusives on hold until Naughty dog's creates their own physics engine just because MS bough havok?

4Sh0w3882d ago

You do know that the reason devs license havok in the first place is because its much more expensive and time consuming to make your own physics engine for each game. Plus a 1 developed for an individual game may not be flexible enough to implement in other exclusive games, that alot of upfront investment that may not payoff, hence licensing is a popular solution.

apostolis813882d ago

I believe you know that big franchises like Uncharted use Havok physics.

Sweep143882d ago

Uncharted doesn't use Havok AFAIK

christian hour3882d ago (Edited 3882d ago )

I'm just here to say Havok was created in my home town :D

That's all :)

Hopefully microsoft play nice and don't jack up the licensing fee to people outside their family and friends.

"the leader in 3D physics" - Maybe ten years ago, there are better alternatives out now, although they are the "leader" in that they were great at doing business and made themselves very affordable (not to mention really good tech support for studios using it). I'm hoping none of that changes and it only improves from here on out. (though I am somewhat sceptical).

Kudos to Microsoft for saying "The leading PROVIDER of 3D physics" in the blog/article, at least they know how to be honest unlike whoever wrote the Desciprtion above on N4G.

Going off the blog it seems MS are going to do right by Havok and not change its business model one bit :)

Was an enjoyable read, there was a lot of humility in that blog, somethign we don't get enough of in this industry (though that trend does seem to be changing, or I'm dreaming?!)

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slate913883d ago

Nice combination with the cloud technology. Cant wait to see it in future MS IP

Rookie_Monster3883d ago (Edited 3883d ago )

Very cool indeed,

From another article.
" http://www.businessinsider....
"Microsoft developers who are planning on using the company's new DirectX 12 graphics display technology, the Visual Studio programming software, or the company's Microsoft Azure supercomputing cloud, Havok will be an integrated option that will make it easier for them to drop it in."

So looks like MS are getting ready for the DX12 and Cloud Compute assault next year by using a middleware physic engine from Havok and the main point of the purchase.

AngelicIceDiamond3883d ago

If that's the case then MS exclusive games will be fire if you combine DX12 and cloud.

Gazondaily3883d ago

Oh nice find. + Bubs

This should be beastly.

Roccetarius3883d ago

This is exactly what i was worried about, and why i dislike where this is heading. Welcome to another step of the always online future.

christocolus3883d ago

@Rookie

Nice article

"Havok has also made its way to Hollywood: Big-time movies like "The Matrix" and "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" used Havok's software to power their special effects"

Wow. i dint know this.

Crashbandicoot773883d ago

This will definitely benefit PC gamer's but not consoles

HaydenJameSmith3883d ago

@crash

And how did you come to that conclusion ? You part of the same group that says Dx12 and Cloud Compute will do nothing for X1 ? Sounds like it...

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tmh35933883d ago

@roccetarius We're already there if you haven't noticed.

aviator1893883d ago

Really wasn't expecting them to snap up havok.
I wonder where they are with the talks with AMD (if any are going on).

Elit3Nick3883d ago

Indeed, MS seems really intend with having a dedicated hardware company. Havok's acquisition also seems to highlight interest in game engine software, I wouldn't be surprised if they bought Crytek or Unreal for their respective engines.

Roccetarius3883d ago

Microsoft would have to deal with Tencent, or some other Chinese company to get their hands on Unreal. I can't remember if it was Tencent that has a majority share in EPIC.

rainslacker3883d ago

I couldn't see Unreal. Epic is worth too much, and they'd have to be willing to sell. Just because MS could afford it doesn't mean they'll snatch it up. Crytek seems to bounce around from being worth a lot, to being in trouble, so that may be worthwhile.

RiseofScorpio3883d ago

I hope so. With Microsoft's money AMD could become a powerhouse.

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christocolus3883d ago

@aviator

with all this talk about cloud, dx12 and now havok i think we will see many more games using the cloud tech in the future..and the rumor about the amd aquisition makes more sense now..

OMGitzThatGuy3883d ago

Seems like they will use them to also further develop cloud physic processing, nice.

TheCommentator3883d ago

I bet your avatar is what Mister Chief looks like under the visor, lol!

TheCommentator3880d ago

I really do like your avatar, but I guess not that many people remember "Mister" Chief. Or I'm not funny. Whatever!

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio20d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing20d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9220d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit20d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing20d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9220d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay22d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn223d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn222d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown23d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay22d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay22d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac22d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger23d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300023d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde23d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde22d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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'The big things that we're thinking about'

In an exclusive interview with Game File, new(ish) Xbox boss Asha Sharma and Xbox chief content officer Matt Booty explain their vision for Microsoft’s gaming division

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Agent7524d ago

A good start would be to release games to go with the console. My Xbox Series X has gathered dust virtually from launch. My advice would be to ditch a next console and release games on PC, PlayStation and Switch. Another idea would be a hybrid console based on Xbox Series X tech and go the same route as Nintendo. Another idea would be to pull out of gaming altogether. Plenty of options there.

Reaper22_21d ago

Why would they pull out? They have the momentum. Sony has been getting nothing but bad news lately.