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PS4 Firmware Update 3.00 Is One Step Forward, Two Steps Back

Push Square: "Sony often gets criticised for being slow to update its console in comparison to the competition, but the reality is that the PlayStation 4 launched in a much better place than people give it credit for. There are obvious tweaks that still need to be made to the user interface to improve it – folders, friends notifications, and so forth – but even on day one the device was slick, snappy, and well designed. However, there's a worry with firmware update v3.00 that rather than iterating upon what it's already got, the manufacturer's starting to mess things up."

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Christopher3937d ago

***Take the new Favourite Groups feature, which we always assumed was going to be a friends filter. ***

So, it's a negative because of your assumption? Interesting.

*** Instead, we're not entirely sure what it is***

It's group chat... how is that hard to understand? Do people not use the Internet or similar devices? No one has ever sent texts to a group of people at once? No one has used a chat group? IRC? Nothing?

*** past 24 hours as people realise that it's not entirely what was advertised***

It is what was advertised, though...

***a great idea that's impeded by the fact that there's no search button. It took us nearly a day to figure out how we could effectively invite readers of the website to the Push Square page, and it really shouldn't ***

Agree there should be a search function, but it took you a day on how to invite people to the community? Really?

I'm questioning your capabilities as end users here, not the system itself. It has, right on the top of the community page, a button that says "Invite players to join this Community".

GTgamer3937d ago

lol you just roasted him :D

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pivotplease3937d ago

Eh pushsquare isn't that bad at all. Better than Dualshockers as far as PS focused sites go. It's really just an aggressive article sprung from someone's personal vendetta. The 3.0 upgrade is still underwhelming in many ways. People have been nagging for minimalist features for two years now. Things PS3 launched with. All of the current gen systems are guilty of this too.

MasterCornholio3936d ago

Like a weenie at a campfire.

:)

These articles are just so dumb.

nveenio3936d ago

Two steps back? Wait. Did they remove features? No? Then how is it backward?

Dumb article.

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Thatguy-3103937d ago

That's what I don't understand why people are criticizing the group feature. On phones if you enter a group chat you get notifications as so as people start chatting with one another. If you're done with the chat then get out and join back in when you want to chat again. It's not rocket science guys.

TKCMuzzer3937d ago

Agree, I think it's quite obvious how it works and your also right that people use these kind of features all the time. Trouble is, this is the games community and there must be complaints no matter what.

steven83r3937d ago

Ya shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Except on phones they still haven't figured out how to end a group chat without everyone deleting the chat.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen3936d ago

Well when you see an article that has something saying "The PS4 is being criticized for it's lack of updates" when it hasn't you already know that it's written by someone with an agenda.

TKCMuzzer3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

Lol, 24 hrs to learn how to invite to the community, that just really, really nooooobish. Don't blame Sony for your shortcomings.

I also think you might find the author may click the disagree button on your comment.............well thats if he can find it. :)

johndoe112113937d ago

"I also think you might find the author may click the disagree button on your comment.............well thats if he can find it. :)"

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You just won the internet mate. I wish I could have given you 3 bubbles.

subtenko3936d ago

This is original N4G comment content right here folks! XD Gold!

GribbleGrunger3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

I think the lack of a search option in Communities is a deliberate strategy to be honest. Communities is new and people are enjoying it but creating 'wants' or 'needs' for something new is always a good idea simply because it gives you yet another narrative to engage your userbase and the internet in general. People will constantly talk about how great Communities are but they'll also constantly talk about how it needs a search function.

After a given time Sony will add search and suddenly Communities has yet another big boost in exposure around the internet. Give people a little of what they didn't know they wanted and they'll then be hungry for improvement. Give them everything they didn't know they wanted and the conversation is exhausted within months. Exposure, exposure, exposure.

Christopher3937d ago

I'm also noticing a bit of delay in things showing up nationally. I've added people as friends and they still don't see the community under my profile, so I've had to add them. So, having a search feature may return false results if the community isn't well established.

Hope they get that sorted sooner than later or at least minimized.

TheLordOfStuff3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

@Christopher

+ bubs for a nice little roast on a stupid article

Cryptcuzz3937d ago

"I'm questioning your capabilities as end users here, not the system itself. It has, right on the top of the community page, a button that says "Invite players to join this Community"

I find it funny how the author said it took them a day to figure out how to invite people to their community. SMH.

Nothing to see here folks, Christopher just invalidated the author with just one comment!

hulk_bash19873937d ago

This article is a joke and whoever put it together is obviously trying to get clicks.

subtenko3936d ago

Yea I know, thats why I didnt click ;) I just comment with you folks about the title ^)^

DragonDDark3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

If you want to find a player's community, search for that person's ID and see his "communities" on his profile.
Hope this helps.

KwietStorm_BLM3937d ago

It is a negative for me, and I'm not going to act like it's all good just because it was given to us. That's not how improvements are made to anything. I thought it was a friends filter myself. There are a lot of people complaining about the automatic group message thing, and it is justified. If you want to create a group message, you can go ahead and do that. Everybody doesn't need to be getting notifications that the group picture was changed, name was updated, player was added.

Christopher3936d ago

If you don't want notifications, then don't add them to your favorites group. Simple as that. The favorites are for group messages you want to get notifications on. Simple as that.

christian hour3937d ago

I dunnno if it's just been a flukey past two days, but I haven't been suffering from those horrible download speeds that have been plaguing Europe for the past year and a half.

It used to peak at 200kbps unless I spent 10 minutes doing pause resume and then doing NOTHING else with the console...

Now I've been getting a nice 10-20mbps on the reg the last two days :)

Can anyone else verify this? Or is this just a total fluke and by typing this message karma is gonna kill me and my tearaway download is going to grind to a halt!?

Let me know! Cos if its true, then this trumps EVERYTHING else on SSU-3.0... The months have been cold in Europe XD

christian hour3937d ago

Nevermind... Totally jinxed it by making this post! :'(

S2Killinit3936d ago

I think the article is talking about what they "think" the update will be, rather than what it "is". they are guessing, sort of.

TwoForce3936d ago

@pivotplease Yeah, i'm not sure about Push Square. Because they are not that very optimistic everything. Well, i do like some their information, but most of them can be cynical.

showtimefolks3936d ago

i guess do more research its an update people both psn and xblibve will get many more updates. Is it possible to make everyone happy? Is it possible to make everyone happy with psn-plus and xbox live free games?

there will be those in vast majority who care very little and than there is the vocal minority who acts like only their opinions matter

i wanted a media player on ps4 and i got one, thank you sony. both ms and sony know what features people want, but it takes time to make those features available

please give these companies a little break. always complaining about everything single thing

WildArmed3936d ago (Edited 3936d ago )

Obviously if the system update doesn't hold up to my imaginary expectation that weren't outlined by Sony.. it's 'two steps back'. /s

Seriously, does the author even understand english? They delivered everything, and took out nothing? How it that moving forward?

Intelligence is a hard trait to come by these days.

Also, not sure why the search feature was taken out since the beta.. hmm

freshslicepizza3936d ago

you didn't really elaborate on the new community group thing and how everyone within that group gets spammed. or how anyone within that group can edit or add others even if you are the one who created it. sounds not bad if you have a tight collection of buddies you trust but it sounds more like remote access for anyone to misuse while getting bombarded with spam every time there's something new.

Christopher3936d ago

The "spamming" isn't a secret, you're adding people to favorites solely to get messages. That's the whole point with it. There is no mystery or elaborate element here. You can create groups and if you want to receive notifications, you can favorite them.

You're not getting spammed if you opted to receive notifications from them.

KwietStorm_BLM3936d ago (Edited 3936d ago )

Saying "simple as that" repeatedly, doesn't mean anything. The point is it adds a favorite group, which is great for large friend list sorting. It also *automatically* adds a group message, and to my knowledge has no option to disable this. Furthermore, if you leave the group message, your favorite group is deleted. This is not efficient design, at all. How can you disagree? How can anyone disagree? I already have message notifications turned off. That isn't my point. The point is every person in the group gets notifications if they have it turned on. This is completely unnecessary, and the group message should be optional, not automatic.

If the only point of this feature was for group messaging, i.e spam, then that still leaves the problem of friend sorting/organization. It wouldn't be that big of a problem, along with other requested features, if we got updates more frequently than several months apart. Smaller updates with just a few features people have been asking for for years would alleviate some of the UX growing pains.

Christopher3936d ago

***The point is it adds a favorite group, which is great for large friend list sorting.***

But that's not what it is for... it's for sending and receiving messages from a group of people and getting notified of those messages.

You're trying to turn it into something it isn't.

***Furthermore, if you leave the group message, your favorite group is deleted. This is not efficient design, at all.***

Why not? The only point of the group is to get notifications. If you want to start receiving them again, just join back in. Have you never experienced MMS on a phone? This is the exact same thing.

***If the only point of this feature was for group messaging, i.e spam, then that still leaves the problem of friend sorting/organization.***

So, let me get this straight, you saying the because it doesn't do what you want it to do, then this other problem is now more of a problem? Or are you trying to say that you want something and it's not in the patch but trying to make something else that is in the patch out to be the reason why it's not there?

I'm completely confused. It's as if people are trying to turn this into something else when it is just one thing.

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Wenapee3937d ago (Edited 3937d ago )

Its no two steps back, its just one or two step forward, while it could have been 3 steps forward. The update feels rushed in some places. All are fine ideas but like the community thing really needs a search feature.

I am sure these aspects will be worked on in next updates.

TKCMuzzer3937d ago

I wonder how many people are aware if you go over your game details in the main XMB then you have the option to view all communities for that game.

deadpoolio3163937d ago

Probably not alot because that would require a full 30 seconds of investigation....And they would rather use that 30 seconds complaining about something on the internet for not having instructions for the dim witted stuck on stupid crowd

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Kurisu3937d ago

I do now! That's pretty cool.

KwietStorm_BLM3937d ago

I didn't know until I found it myself, but that is not a search feature, regardless. That is game specific.

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TKCMuzzer3937d ago

Wrong, my reply was valid as it is another way of searching, which some people may have not known about. I did not say your comment about a search option was wrong, it seems you are a little sensitive for some reason.

Orbilator3937d ago

Cause he's a troll and his bridge collapsed.

christian hour3936d ago (Edited 3936d ago )

Is that thing where it speaks out the comments people leave during a broadcast a new feature? Or has that been there a while? Only noticing it now! Apparently it will only work if i set my language to english(us) though XD Why no english(uk)...

I've always wondered, why doesnt it say English (EU) for that option, I mean the UK aren't the only english speaking country in Europe, their island neighbours to the west speak English too ya know, and we don't particularly like being associated with the UK since it was only 100 years ago when we finally fought back for our freedom form their tyranny XD

CuddlyREDRUM3936d ago

I think the main problem with it is that it is the major Fall update.

They mainly took out something that worked, the USB Music Player, and took it out. Merging it with the Media Player makes no sense as there is a loud ping anytime you use the interface, so if you listen to music loud it is annoying as hell.

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Eonjay3937d ago

They are obsessed over the group chat function. Obsessed. I figured out the community invite thing in about 10 minutes. Its not that hard guys. Just let your reader know what user name to search for and then select the Community option under that user. There were articles about how to do this about 15 hours ago.

spektical3937d ago

Didn't think I'd be interested in many of the features... but the group feature is fantastic. I have a private group of friends who play destiny and another for battlefield.

Additionally joining these communities makes it easy to get a prty instead of going to reddit and asking for fireteams or squadding up.

Christopher3937d ago

Yeah, there's already a very active Destiny LFG community. Very helpful for raids.

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA74d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY74d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay74d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos73d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7274d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY74d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator74d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum73d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z73d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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Naughty Dog Was Reportedly Divided On Joel's Controversial Fate During Development Of TLOU Part 2

Naughty Dog was reportedly divided on the controversial fate of Joel in The Last of Us Part 2 during the game's development.

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SimpleDad74d ago

NO, that can't be... No! I can't... Really?/s

Cacabunga74d ago

They for sure chose the worst way to deal with it

-Foxtrot73d ago

Funny considering Bruce left half way through development and now we get told there was an internal conflict with the story direction.

Makes you think…

HectixRose74d ago

I think it was good decision, if he was still alive, he would have been a mascot just like Kratos, drake and many others. These old dudes gotta die for new characters to take center stage with their own storyline. They keep dragging the emotional baggage into many sequels and eventually the story just turns into absolute shit show.

JEECE74d ago

It was ironic because people complained heavily about the story in the Uncharted games not having sufficient stakes because all the key characters always survived, despite the dangerous situations they were always in. Then ND killed a character in a more serious series and everyone lost their minds. Just shows that people don't always really want the thing they say they want.

CantThinkOfAUsername73d ago

I thought the more common complaint about Uncharted franchise was how the main cast are the good guys acting so nonchalantly while killing hundreds in cold blood (aka the dissonance between gameplay and story cutscenes). They just did it again in Part II.

Soy74d ago

Didn't have to kill him. Just have them part ways or Joel can "retire," whatever.

DarXyde74d ago

I don't think he would necessarily need to become a mascot (and besides, technically, I'd say Ellie is... So regardless, someone was going to be).

From a narrative perspective, I do think it has a similar effect to Ricky dying in Boyz N Da Hood: very likeable character, and you're really motivated to see the get back—in this case, it's more intense because it's an interactive experience. Most people hated Abby, but I get what they were after with portraying the cycle of violence and revenge—unfortunately, the game appears to want to take the side of the bad people.

But I will say that if Joel survived, it does become harder to tell an interesting story. What COULD have happened is an exploration into the rift between Joel and Ellie after the trolley dilemma events of the first game. It could have been interesting to see Abby out for revenge at the same time Ellie hated Joel.

Ashunderfire8674d ago

Sorry just had to say this lol! RICKYYYY!

Man Cuba Gooding Jr was miscast in that movie, but that part was cringey it was sad and funny at the same time man.

Ashunderfire8674d ago (Edited 74d ago )

I understand but the way they went about killing Joel, was poorly executed. Even the show of the Last of Us games tried to improved it, but it was just as bad. Well at least Joel got to know the reason why he had to die, before the death happened in the show. That part gave us the full context, but the game just let it happen with no pay off.

Joel death should have been a midway thing through the story, so we at least get to play him a little more with Ellie. Abby didn’t need to be this Hulk looking woman, but more like the show Abby which is a beater idea in my opinion.

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InUrFoxHole74d ago

The only ND game that was so disappointing to me I couldn't finish it.

pwnmaster300074d ago

Honestly as much as I loved the game, they could have just not killed him off.
I get it creator vision and all but killing a character that made you millions is just wrong imo. At least have him go down fighting.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot74d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle74d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7774d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments