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Game Developers, Please Abandon Last Gen Consoles Already

The PS3 and Xbox 360 represent one of the longest running generations of consoles ever. First launching in 2005 with the release of the Xbox 360, the seventh generation of consoles ran all the way to 2012. This seven year stretch of time covers some of the fastest and most important technological advancement in human history (the iPhone was introduced in 2007, for example), and yet we were all still playing games on the same hardware we bought eight years earlier (unless you had switched to PC of course).

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FallenAngel19843890d ago

That's an absurd statement to make. There's still a more active userbase buying software on PS3 and 360 than there is on Wii U. Its a smart choice for developers to continue catering to this audience.

Not to mention its been a long tradition of the PlayStation brand to continue receiving support even after its successor has been released on the market, and apparently the Xbox brand is adopting this philosophy as well.

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wonderfulmonkeyman3890d ago

Exactly.
As a PS3 owner who hasn't been given enough reasons to go to PS4, I'm honestly happy that they haven't abandoned the PS3 yet.
I don't mind the visuals of the system's games since they're still in HD, and having free online is a boon I'm extremely thankful for.

nX3890d ago

It's not just visuals, game design as a whole suffers from limited hardware. Even the new consoles struggle with the visions of some decelopers, the PS3 library is big enough to let it rest.

PSN_ZeroOnyx3890d ago

Most/all of the AAA games being current gen only would likely motivate most gamers to upgrade IMO.

wonderfulmonkeyman3889d ago (Edited 3889d ago )

@PSNZero

I sincerely doubt that.
I mean, I know that I, personally, don't want to go from free online and backwards compatibility, to paying an extra fee just to get online on top of having to RENT games from last gen just to play them on the same system as new-gen games.

I love my PS3, but the PS4 is a turn-off, due to everything it abandoned in favor of graphics and re-selling what we already own on last-gen gear.
I'm not convinced to upgrade so long as it's still riding high despite such flaws.
I want a new-gen system that allows me to continue to enjoy the games I have already spent my hard-earned cash collecting, one that doesn't try to bribe me with a bunch of "free" games just to get me to further pay for their online subscription fees.
No amount of hype from its specs or graphics is going to convince me that the games are just so much better than last gen that I HAVE to upgrade.
Especially since I've taken advantage of a friend of mine to try them on HIS PS4, and have found most of the new-gen stuff to be either equal to, or below, the gameplay quality of previous gen games on PS3.

PS4 ruined what I love about Sony's approach to consoles.
I much prefer my last-gen PS3 over a PS4, and the absolute praise it gets, and the heckling that anyone who doesn't love it has to deal with just for not being on the same side as those that praise what's popular, absolutely disgusts me.

AndrewLB3889d ago

@nX

Wasn't that the argument PC gamers were saying for years and all the console players said that's a bunch of BS? Oh yeah... it was.

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InTheLab3889d ago (Edited 3889d ago )

It's not about visuals. Arkham Knight is a beautiful game but turn it down to Wiiu/ps3 standards and you must remove large chunks of the city, remove some of the traversal, add more invisible walls, etc. It's more than just going from 720p to 1080p.

@Macho

No one says you have to throw out last gen consoles. Keep playing those old games if you like..... But if games are still being made for last gen, it holds back current gen AND ADDS TO YOUR BACK LOG.

As for what new consumers making the jump and their reasons for doing so, I find it ridiculous that you'd even suggest that. You buy games and don't play them. How else do you have a back log? Could it be that maybe you should stick with a single console until you've played all you can? If I didn't have my X1, I could easily add 5 more multiplats to my ps4 collection but I choose to support both. There's plenty reasons to make the jump to next gen but zero reason at this point to own both a PS4 and Xb1.

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freshslicepizza3890d ago

as a ps3 owner i say drop the support. developers need to focus on new hardware and it does indeed hold them back by focusing on last gen consoles as well. the thing is they are still relying on that revenue and i don't see this generation being larger than the last one.

N4g_null3889d ago (Edited 3889d ago )

Supporting multiple consoles is not holding back most devs. This is just wonky consumer logic. Most assets work on last gen to this Gen and up to pc. These cpu are not so advanced so the jump isn't even that high.

You guys have a gpu upgrade and that is about it. These cpus are not enabling open worlds, the new gpus are. No one in there right mind uses the cpu in these consoles for graphics.

The gpu is the future and cpus are for running the baseline code for ai and game logic.

meche3343889d ago

the gpu jump is significant. its going from 400gflps to 1.4 and 1.8 teraflops

N4g_null3889d ago

No its not. That is barely a jump. We are at 8tera flops and phones are not far behind.

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itsjustexuma3890d ago

There are more PS3 and XBox 360 users than PS4 and XBox One users so that is unlikely to happen soon

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triple_c3890d ago

I couldn't agree more.. If you're on last gen and can't afford too upgrade or you're too cheap to upgrade then that's YOUR problem. I don't want my games held back because of last gen consoles. Why should I or anyone else on current gen have to suffer because you people on last gen consoles don't wanna upgrade or can't upgrade?

DarkBlood3890d ago

maybe those people shouldn't have toss out their previous consoles like a last year iPhone product then?

triple_c3890d ago (Edited 3890d ago )

Not sure what your point is but I'm not saying we should just ditch our last gen consoles, get rid of them and never play them again lol. I'm not even saying developers should ditch last gen altogether. But what I am saying is that certain AAA games should not appear on last gen because they will only hold the current gen back. Madden, NBA, and the yearly sports titles can stay but these are the types of things I am referring to when I say certain AAA games just shouldn't be cross gen http://www.dsogaming.com/ne...

wonderfulmonkeyman3890d ago

A game suffering due to cross-gen development is more an issue with budget and dev skill than the systems themselves.
I'm thankful that they continue to support the older systems with newer games. It proves that they're still relevant no matter how much prettier the new systems can make the graphics look.

Retroman3889d ago (Edited 3889d ago )

@ triplec

Not that we can't upgrade from ps3 (simple REALITY )ps4 do not cater to ps1,ps2 games yet. most of us "Don't want to or like open world" only games. no matter what type or style of open world setting it is. some ps3 gamers waiting on something that's not military, tomb raiders,just cause,battlefield,last of us, god of war,far cry,destiny,call of duty or zombie island type games. something outside the box of same ol first person shooters/hack and slash zombie 2007 open world games.
same reason Nintendo not doing well with Boat load of Snes portfolio sitting on them instead of re-imaging in HD on wii-U

Ristul3890d ago

Supporting your old consoles is now considered a bad thing? I don't even, I can't - I have lost the ability to can.

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lnfiniteLoop3890d ago

not time to abandon last gen consoles completely... just time to ditch certain AAA titles and franchises from appearing on them, and update those AAA and franchise titles to push current gen hardware without the development of last gen to hold the title back...

SaveFerris3890d ago

I agree. Companies like EA can continue to make last-gen versions of Fifa and Madden etc. without impacting the current gen versions. But a game like Mass Effect 4 should only be on current gen consoles.
Also, Japan is likely to support the PS3 for some time, due to the large install base there until such time as the PS4 install base reaches a decent amount.

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G20WLY3890d ago

^Fraud, wat?! They make these games for last gen because it MAKES them money - if nobody bought them they wouldn't make them, since they'd run at a loss.

They go where the demand is - it's really not that tough to grasp!

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio21d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing21d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9221d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit21d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing21d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9221d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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(For Southeast Asia) New Price Changes for PS5, PS5 Pro, and PlayStation Portal remote player

For Southeast Asia, new price changes.

Prices effective starting May 1st, 2026.

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BeHunted23d ago

Looks like PlayStation took a hit with Marathon and is now quietly adjusting prices worldwide to recover the losses

andy8523d ago

Lets be honest raising prices doesn't do that when no one's buying it. I imagine the profit it greater selling 10 times more at a lower price

Pergele23d ago

Whatever you say buddy, let's all wear the tinfoil hats.

IceKoldKilla23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

LMFAO Your comment alone says a lot more about you than anything else. When has one game not selling 10 million copies made a company raise the prices of their console? Then Xbox would be costing $5000 by now lol. You remind of the crazy drug addicts on the street rambling on about conspiracies. xD You sure you don't need a hug, buddy?

ChunkyMonk23d ago

One game that Sony payed $200 million for. lol
Also, you sure were quick to get triggered. Maybe your the one who needs a hug?

Eonjay22d ago

If nothing else, we should be united against the real issue here. AI and unnecessary tariffs that are effecting all gamers.

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Athlon10123d ago (Edited 23d ago )

The price increases are due to the RAM demand associated with AI and the US-Iran war. You can look to any business news website and local news to see that. Heck, even the 2026 Asus Zenbook Duo I've been eyeing has faced delays and has had a price increase of $400; that laptop has two specs. Asus is doing a staggered release with per-orders for the lower spec now and shipping in May and pre-orders for the higher spec that I'm eyeing starting in June. Basically, all computer manufactures are affected. It'll most likely start affecting smart phones too if it hasn't already. I can't remember the last time any major console maker (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, etc) increased the price of their console mid cycle outside of Microsoft just to make more profit.

S2Killinit22d ago

Its not the war. Its the RAM issue.

jznrpg22d ago

War is causing gas prices to rise. Transport of everything requires gas so the prices of those items go up as well. So it does have an impact

Athlon10122d ago (Edited 22d ago )

The blockage of the Straight of Hormuz due to the US-Iran war has affected raw components used in semi-conductor manufacturing such as bromine, aluminum, and helium. Iran had attacked the liquified natural gas (LNG) plant in Qatar which is a large producer (1/3 globally) of helium which is used in semiconductor etching. So it's the both the war and the RAM crises.

badz14923d ago

Oh no...should I get the Pro now before the price increase?

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay23d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn223d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn222d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown23d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay23d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay23d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac22d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger23d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300023d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde23d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde22d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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