Its really not a lot better looking than some of the better looking PS2 games.

Whether that's a final build or not. That screen shot looks pretty bad. Maybe not ps2 bad but like it looks like an xbox original game. We've seen Wii U do a lot better *Mario Kart*. This just doesn't look impressive even for Wii U.

P.S.

I'm just going off the screen shot in the article

Well said. Although some of the texture work (mainly ground textures) looks a little ropey, some of the lighting and filtering is still quite nice and like you said, the game is kicking out 60fps with two different viewpoints to two different screens - that's technically impressive even if the visuals took a slight hit.

That's not really accurate TBH, for one thing the cockpit view is just a smaller part of the higher resolution image, because the exterior viewpoint gives more of a wider view, with way more data, the cockpit doesn't need to render any new data, it's just a more zoomed in part of the bigger image with the ability to pan the camera around in a restricted framework, with the Arwing's interior layered on top of that camera on the gamepad screen.

The TV image is just a 921,600(1280X720) pixel per frame render and the gamepad (assuming it's full native output) a portion of that, 409,920 (854X480) pixels.

The game is on rails for the most part, with very few enemies on screen at once, no real choice of pathways to take, until you come to the all range sections, which are small spaces, not really big open areas, like in vast open world games.

People are just lapping up what the game's Director is saying, without really comparing what the view on the gamepad looks like vs the big exterior view, it's certainly nothing that would hog much in the way of performance.

You do know what site this is. And you do know no matter what they are not going to say anything posing about Nintendo, no matter the scope or performance.

Your talking to gfx whores that state 30fps is good enough and how going below is acceptable because of the gfx. They even state how 30fps in a racing game is buttery smooth. 60fps in a racer. The devs even trick them saying the low frame rate was for cinematic reason and fanboys stated how 24fps was even acceptable.

"the 2 screen rendering at 60fps excuse is a cop out!"

But when a Ps4/Xboxone game is locked at 30fps it's a design choice?

" bottom line hardly anyone likes using the stupid gyro to aim and second screen. "

Citations needed.

@chickey cantor Dude watch any gameplay live on youtube, read up about experiences of people who played it and you will see people talking about wanting a normal controll method.

Thank god they are not forcing us to use the 2 screen set up.
Its up to nintendo to show us the 2 screen wiiu set up is worthwhile, as a day 1 wiiu owner i have not been impressed.

And what has ms and sony got to do with anything?? Jack $h1t!
nintendo have said starfox wont be a big budget title, i remember reading it was only gonna be download only.

Metroid federation force is a slap in the face to a hardcore metroid fan like myself! and starfox zero looks like nintendo cobbled it together and us not up to the high quality we as fans expect.

Obviously this could change but i doubt it, skyward sword with its forced motion controls was one of the worst selling zelda games on a install base of 100million plus!

Citation needed, mate. I can also say that some players liked the motion controls after getting used to it. So which is it?

"And what has ms and sony got to do with anything?? Jack $h1t! "

Because Ps4 and Xone also have games locked at 30fps because of performance issues (read: Hardware ). But you aren't calling that a "cop out" or "lazy", must be a feature? This game is rendering to 2 separate buffers. So it is taxing on the GPU. It's surprising it doesn't look worse. You seem to forget that WiiU is not on the same level as PS4 or xbox one.

"skyward sword with its forced motion controls was one of the worst selling zelda games on a install base of 100million plus!"

Way to spin it. Implying all those "100 million plus" were hardcore gamers. I'm pretty sure you're the type that says "wii is targetted at soccer moms".

What I meant to say is the graphics are based a little on realism. That's the reason for all the complaints about the texturing. I was pretty clear about that. Until Dawn is based on realism, Killzone is based on realism. Saying a game is based on realism doesn't mean the story/gameplay/characters are realistic, it's about how they look graphically, a.k.a. The art style. And StarFox doesn't have a super unique art style.

Its funny cause in the until dawn article fanboys are saying Sony need more interactive movies to capture the casuals. Lmao it never stops.

Before they was bashing f2p games on PC and mobile but want capcom f2p game that's gonna be a micro transaction gold mine.

They down played paying for online play, but now have to pay to play a the other half of a game the spent 60 for.

They downplayed point and click and adventure games but hype up until dawn.

They downplay ninth and PC gamers for wanting the min to be 60fps, but brag when an exclusive is.

Downplay star citizen but hype up a game that do way less.

Downplay PC games until they get ported.

Don't see difference between console and PC version, but can tell every gfx difference between the consoles.

Downplayed VR way before Morpheus , than change there tune when Sony vr rumors came out.

Brag about gfx, but say it doesn't matter when its not to their advantage in this console war.

Brag about new gfx effects, but get mad and call people gfx whores when someone tell it was being done years before these next gen console s.

Talk about gfx, resolution, gfx, gfx, how their console is the best, the greatest, gfx, but when a PC gamer say one thing about gfx, he's a gfx whore and they act like they're SUPERIOR (I love that on no one does this better than PS fanboys)

Every genre that's not on consoles suck until they are on consoles or more so a Sony platform.

That's n4psfanboys in a but shell

That's a fair point; they could have done a lot more in terms of what they put out there for aesthetics.
But let's keep in mind that a lot of what we've seen is still small glimpses.

Even that one space battle was taking place around what seemed to be a huge space station; with your team scattered around so much, it would be pretty hard to keep track of all the enemies chasing them around, not to mention your objectives, if the different ships started blending in with background stuff like colorful galaxies and exploding supernovas.

It's also simply one of the many levels out there; Zoness got an overhaul to use the Gyrocopter and the Landmaster now has a full-out flight mode during its own missions, and even in the very first level, switching how you kill the boss by either taking out its weak points as an Arwing or invading its very body with the Raptor mech mode actually affects whether he gets away or dies in the end.

Little touches like that are what will make the game a make-or-break. There's a lot of ingenuity on display thus far, and we haven't even seen 10% of what's on offer.

It's exciting to think about all the undiscovered new surprises that are awaiting us in the full game, yet all anyone seems to want to do is complain about the graphics.

It's frustrating to see so many gamers take such a shallow complaint so far, even to the extent of using it as a reason to skip the game, when it isn't going to affect the gameplay quality in the slightest.

Thank you! It was never the graphics mind you(though they look smooth to me). I think most people are having problems saying is that they mean from what we seen so far the game in It's areas shown so far are lacking content. It just seems a bit too plain. It's like a cheeseburger without the lettuce, tomato, onion, and sauce inside. It is still perfectly delicious, but seems rather plain or a bit off. Perhaps it isn't the best example or comparison, but that's the way I feel about the game. It still worth the fun, but you know it kinda lacks a bit. You never know though, nintendo overvalues quality over content. So they may suprise us.