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Apple's So-Called Gaming Console Is A Major Bust

Kotaku: "The tech prophets have taken to the internet’s streets with big signs saying “CONSOLES ARE DOOMED. APPLE IS HERE."

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Relientk773913d ago

Oh don't worry they will release the new one next month

just like how they release a new Iphone every month

noah-kun3913d ago

Dumbest thing I've read today. They have not released a new Apple TV in years and they only release a phone each year.

Kal-V33913d ago

Siri.. look up the definition of "hyperbole"

Inzo3912d ago

uuh, I think he is giving you a good blend of elaboration and sarcasm. What is concerning though is that 10 people agreed with you.

frostypants3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

OK, Drax...

HighResHero3913d ago

I still don't have the one from last month. :(

eferreira3912d ago

Some people on here are just plain ignorant.

JeffGUNZ3912d ago

Huh? They release two different sized iphones a year, that's it. How many Android phones get released in a year? I mean come on man, you don't like Apple that's fine, but why not call out Samsung who releases the Galaxy and then the Galaxy Edge, or Galaxy note?

lipton1013912d ago

A new android comes out like every 30 days, they're a dime a dozen. There's one iPhone per year. And Apple TV? Try 2012 or so for the last iteration. Call me what you want, I love my iPhone and I'll never go back to any other phone manufacturer.

nitus103912d ago

Basically Apple is one company while there there are lots of different companies that use the Android OS in their products. That is why it appears to you that a new Android device comes out every month.

In the smartphone market IOS (the Apple operating system) has only 13.9% of the market while Android has 82.8%.

Don't believe me then look at the following URL: http://www.idc.com/prodserv...

Remember that is just the smartphone market. The Android OS is on tablets, eReaders, printers, watches and even TV's as well, just to name a few.

Still if you like your iPhone that is fine by me, in fact all my family except for me have iPhones. Personally I don't have any issue with IOS or Android although I do like my Galaxy S4.

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Thatguy-3103913d ago

The people that claim that products like these are going to replace consoles are simply casual players. Someone who is into gaming know that gaming dedicated hardware isn't going anywhere soon. A ps4/xbox player isn't going to go out and throw money at this because it's simply not the same.

noah-kun3913d ago

You can play all the Final Fantasy games up to 7, all the GTA 3 games, Star Wars: KOTOR and tonnes of arcade and console ports on iOS with controller support, and presumably these will be put on the Apple TV App Store too.

It seems like the goal posts for what's "hardcore" keep getting moved as these games are put on devices used by younger or more affluent people than the online gamer community. People will enjoy these now "casual" games on these devices just the same.

Thatguy-3103913d ago

I agree with you that people enjoy these casual experiences but I doubt it's going to replace or even be a threat to the console makers.

Death3913d ago

It's fun to see hardcore gamers ecstatic about "Indies" on their chosen console and then take shots at new systems that can play them. Apple TV isn't hardcore but playing shovelware on a console is? Sound hypocritical to me.

JoeReno3913d ago

200mb storage cap is CRAP. Even for ios games.

Spotie3913d ago

You know what sounds moronic?

Automatically downplaying all indies as shovelware.

Furthermore, there's a difference between a console that's been getting a lot of indies, and one that can only play SOME indies. What would be the point in such a redundant device from a gaming perspective?

What would be the point, Death, when people could play those exact same games on their tablet or phone? There are no exclusives or big budget games coming to this thing, so why would anybody pick it over other devices?

None of what you say is true, and it's hardly relevant. The bottom line is that it's nowhere near able to compete with any of the consoles because it lacks everything that makes consoles desirable.

r2oB3912d ago

@ death

I don't think anyone is taking shots at indie games, its more like taking shots at the people who think console gaming is dead in lieu of mobile phone gaming. I'm sure you can see the difference between a console/PC indie game that core gamers get "estatic" about and a 200MB mobile game, hopefully. Or perhaps you just took this opportunity to troll.

seanpitt233912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

200mb? We must be back in the 90s and I don't know it yet.

blastcorp643912d ago

In my view, a "hard core gamer" is defined more by the time and money invested in gaming and not so much by the content of individual games. PS4 is a sales leader, but I'm sure a big chunk of those sales were from "casual gamers". And they may casually play a game like MGS - my good friend back in the day loved the original MGS on PSX, but he was not really a gamer at all. His library of games was tony hawk, MGS, FFVII, and NCAA football. He never defined himself as someone who games or considered it a hobby.

noah-kun3912d ago

@blastcorp64 It sounds like you are describing an addiction. The amount of time and money someone can spend on gaming isn't decided by their love of games, it's decided by their income level, stage of life and number of responsibilities.

The measure of a game player should be based on their love of the art form alone, anything else is gate-keeping by the current institutions of gamers.

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LifeInNZ3913d ago

Question is, how many of these "casual" gamers will not buy a console like they once did?

Thatguy-3103913d ago

But the games are completely different. If someone is buying a console it's because of the games that aren't available on platforms like the app store. I just don't see someone who usually buys consoles opt out for this. The demographic are polar opposites

Doodleburger3912d ago

Yeah, and the casual market helped Nintendo win last gen in sales, so maybe they're banking on that. Just a thought.

frostypants3912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

Yep. Kind of like how people said mobile gaming would end consoles. And of course consoles are now selling more than ever.

lipton1013912d ago

I'll definitely buy it. Just not for games. I love my Apple TV and I've been waiting with much anticipation for the new one.

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BlackPanther3913d ago

1. Apple never claimed it was a gaming console.

2. Anyone who thought that is an idiot. It is a set top box that does casual gaming.

3. And of course Kotaku wrote this.

GHOSTxx4203913d ago

Exactly no one said it was a gaming console.

Takwin3912d ago

Tons of people who don't work at Apple reported it as a gaming console. Like, every news, tech, and gaming site I visit.

Apple showed a lot of games and controllers and talked more about games. That seems like a gaming console, even if it is based on casual app style games.

uth113912d ago (Edited 3912d ago )

Well the media has been saying it would be for the last week or two...

Console killer they said, PS4 is done for , they said.. :P

BlindMango3912d ago

Haha yeah, when I saw it was Kotaku that wrote this I was not surprised in the least

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Epic Games Asks Judge to Force Apple to Unblock Fortnite on iOS

The saga of the legal battle that sees Epic Games fight Apple in the attempt to bring Fortnite back to iOS has just gained another chapter.

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PapaBop373d ago

Damn, I'm going to need to restock my popcorn if this keeps up.

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Epic: Mobile Gaming Business "Largely Broken," Says "Dysfunction" Due to 30% Tax From Apple, Google

Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney notes that the mobile gaming industry is "largely broken," and blames the 30% tax levied by Apple and Google.

Christopher646d ago

Man has been saying this for ages and knows full well the only thing he wants is more money at Apple and Google's expense and absolutely none of this will result in lower prices for the consumer.

Tacoboto646d ago

He expects the digital equivalent of opening up his own store inside of a Walmart or Target. It's absurd.

And he feels absolutely entitled to it, in a too-big-to-fail sense - because Unreal Engine is used by so many developers, banning Epic would hurt those developers relying on their tech, which would be super unfair to the developers.

Notellin646d ago

Thank goodness you are there to defend the small guys Google and Apple. You're so brave, Christopher!

Christopher645d ago

Yeah, I'm totally defending Apple and Google and not explaining how another company is just as greedy. That's the big takeaway from my comment, Apple and Google good, only Epic bad. Yup. I totally didn't make it about the fact that this man just wants more money and isn't doing it for the consumers. Nope. Not that at all. I'm just praising up Big Tech. They're my one and only love in life. Please recognize me Big Tech Senpai!

VersusDMC646d ago

The epic games store charges a 12% tax and has been losing money for 5 years...that sounds dysfunctional.

gerbintosh646d ago

They are only losing money because Steam has a stranglehold on the market.

Christopher645d ago

It's a play to attempt to win over the market so they can then realign pricing with what Steam has in the long run. The problem is they are doing only that and not actually building a better software supported platform on PC. Essentially, they're throwing money at the problem, not actually trying to compete by providing better service.

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Epic Says They Spent $1B in Fight Against Apple & Google, "Small Price to Pay" for Freedom of Market

Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney revealed that they have spent $1 billion fighting Apple and Google but adds it's a "smam price" to pay for freedom.

BeHunted649d ago (Edited 649d ago )

Fortnite on the Google Play Store would've generated over $1 billion in percentage fees for Google. Smart move.

1nsomniac649d ago (Edited 649d ago )

I buy most my pc games through epic now. Don’t get me wrong I love steam and steam has had a lot of my money for the work they put into the platform. But i like what Epic are fighting for and they’ve been open about it from the very beginning. I wish they would sort out their verify/repair files option for when you format your drives. The whole rename/redownload hack is an absolutely awful archaic solution.

Tacoboto649d ago

They've been open about how they so openly violate the terms of the platforms they distribute on.

They spent over a billion on legal battles, and also had significant layoffs. Maybe they should cater to their employees first before forcing governments to add more regulations for industries governments just do not understand. The EU DMA - Apple's policies and lawyers have made a mockery of it every step of the way.

And back when they openly and proudly violated Apple's policies, they tried using Fortnite to coerce its players (including children) to rally against Apple's 30% fee.

Which is the same 30% fee console makers apply, but Epic has no problem with that! Epic isn't fighting for you, they're fighting for themselves and don't mind siphoning the money they get from Unreal, even if it results in layoffs.

1nsomniac649d ago

First of all you’re wrong, but second of all you clearly don’t know an awful lot about what you’re talking about.

Tacoboto649d ago

Epic proudly violated Apple's terms by introducing their own payment option in Fortnite. Fact. That's literally what started this. Epic then went on to put banners in Fortnite as a not-so-subtle call-to-arms against Apple.
Epic also violated console terms by enabling cross-platform play in Fortnite. Fact.
Epic cut 800 jobs a year ago. Fact.

Epic sucks, their engine is too big for them to fail and they know it, so they're using that to subsidize their legal battles against Apple and their attempts to rally international governments into creating regulations based on what *they* want.

phoenixwing649d ago

Epics launcher is a piece of crap compared to steams. In fact every launcher so far is crap compared to it. The only reason epic has any traction is they literally give away games in order to drive a user base.

anast649d ago

They have some good semi-giveaways.

KwietStorm_BLM649d ago

They'll make that back in a fortnight.