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Little Big Planet Doomed?

Alex Evans reveals that they made all the same mistakes that Lionhead made while working on Little Big Planet - what does this mean for the fate of one of the most innovative games to come?

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Genesis56501d ago (Edited 6501d ago )

Speculation with no foundation. This isn't Lionhead and this guy is not even working on the game. From what most of the media have seen of this game running, they are awestruck

xiotex6501d ago

I am awestruck by the game too - I have some reservations about the user generated content but I have faith in Alex to pull it off but it genuinely sounded like they were in trouble.

Genesis56501d ago

Well if they were having problems I'm sure Sony would have jumped in to help out. I think they learned from their mistakes too.

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Fox016501d ago

this game looks fun, I still think this is what PSNHome should have been though.

Real Gambler6501d ago

First, let's make that clear. I'm pre-ordering LBP. I love it and no matter what they can say about it, I've been following it since day 1 and I'm betting on it. (And I'm also a firm believer in user content...)

Now, that being said, this guy is right though. Giving relative freedom to design software is great because you can come up with gems like LPB. But in a very small company like Media Molecule, too much freedom leads to delay, which mean, hype goes down after a while. Sure you don't need much management when all the employees could work in a 700 sq. ft. space. But somebody really has to sit down, set goals and go for it. Yes it's bad for creativity, but loosing hype because of delay is also bad for sales.

That being said, look at your game library, and count how many games you have that you can come out with, and play with 3 other friends who are not heavy gamers while still having fun. What about that bunch of nephews coming over and breaking every pieces of furniture. Boot LBP and tada, no more problems. This is a must have game in any gamer library.

Superfragilistic6501d ago (Edited 6501d ago )

True, but the founding members and the core development team on LBP are formerly from Lionhead which is just up the road from Media Molecule. Many of the core development team on LBP worked on Fable, Black & White, etc.

Regardless, the game truly looks amazing! :)

meepmoopmeep6501d ago

let's just say there are those praying this game flops.
knee-bent bloody, bruised praying.

Sevir046500d ago

if it aint kz2, it's resistance 2, if it aint then it's the ps3, now they are saying that the biggest and most anticipated, winner of both e3s 2007 and 2008, LBP is doomed... ok i took one look at the the first paragraph and just laughed. for the fanbois/fankids that hate sony, this is your article.

Zeevious6500d ago

You are AWESTRUCK by this game?

You...The same person who just posted the news "Little Big Planet Doomed?"

Then is your article anything more than a cheap attempt to get site hits?

You know for someone who's only news-post here is SELF-PROMOTING/Spamming their own site with their own account here, what should that say about your credibility?

If your own site's flash games are any example of your employability in the industry, I'll hire you!

The mops over there.

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Captain Tuttle6501d ago

No way. I just have a feeling that this game won't be a huge seller. I'm biased though because I don't get the appeal of the game.

Mikelarry6501d ago

looks fun but im not still sold maybe its because i am not very creative. but i wouldnt say this game is doomed user generated content can assure that, with peoples imagination who knows what wacky and fun things they could create to make this game a master piece.

ScottEFresh6501d ago

LBP is arguably the most anticipated game coming for ANY system(including PC) right now.

psycho3606501d ago

@scott. The most anticipated by ps3 fans, nobody else would like to play 2.5d platformer.

I believe it wil be like lemmings (a platformer game in the late 80s and 90s), but it was quite successful till it went 3D. The reason of its success can be attributed to limited number of genres available at that time and with limited hardware. Nowadays in days of fps/tps/realtime straegy/RPG/MMORPGs/Anime etc etc casual games have limited appeal on HD consoles. See what happened to Viva sales which was like a breath of fresh air on 360 and even with having high attachment rate of games per console but still it dint do well.

If you think people paid $500/600$ to play platformer then you're mistaken. See the sales of MGS4 now after a month and that was the game which has been on PS brand of consoles since 10+ years.

LBP target audience is few 100 die hard fanboys here on n4g and Wii owners.

Bigrhyno6501d ago

Little Big Planet isn't even close to "casual". Sure some casual gamers might get on every now and then and check what some of the top levels are, but the game is made for true hardcore platformer fans. I think the biggest audience of this game will be the older gamers who miss the days when 2D platformers were THE genre. Other than that I think it will just be people who don't really understand the game, but hear great things about it who buy it. Now whether or not making a game appealing to this segment of hardcore 2D platformer fans is a good idea, is yet to be seen.

myothercar6501d ago (Edited 6501d ago )

It's casual. Do you think these people would know how to create their own hardcore levels? They can barely even get past simple obstacles- but they're having a fun multiplayer experience. It's going to be a social game for people with enough friends.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

..and of course a hardcore game for level designers.

Anyone who says they still doubt this game, I believe, haven't seen a single videoclip/article/impression since early 2007. There's just going to be so much that will surprise you, you're just going to be stupid ashamed that you even doubted it.

Bigrhyno6501d ago (Edited 6501d ago )

Just because people who suck at games enjoy it, that makes it casual? If that is the case then I could name a lot of games that most people wouldn't consider casual, yet are. Halo, Grand Theft Auto, and even World of Warcraft, just to name a few.

clintos596501d ago

Where have u been? U seem like u been stuck under a rock or something because if u dont think LBP will be huge or wont move any systems, u are setting yourself up for some serious ownage. I never really cared for this game when sony first shared it wit us at GDC07, but as they kept showing new videos of how easy it is to actually create stuff and also be enjoying the game at the same time, I really fell in love with the game. If a game can do that to me just by watching it and it was never a game that I was wowed for when it first was introduced, that is saying alot.

I dont no where u been but if u havent been watching e3, most everyone at e3 were lined up at the LBP section wanting to try out the game and so far we hear nuttin but praise and good things for LBP from almost every site across the globe. I dont see how LBP isnt going to play a big factor when it is one of the biggest and most anticipated games for any system. And with a price cut with the 80gb sku with no BC in it dropping to $399, u can be your a$$ that bundle pacl will be selling very well this holiday season. Besides tha I could give a crap how much it sells, all I want is to play LBP and im satisfied.

myothercar6501d ago (Edited 6501d ago )

Bigrhyno, Halo, GTA and WoW DO appeal to casual gamers. They're just too violent and mature to be accessible to all ages, which is that Nintendo-like quality LBP has in bucketloads.

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dale16501d ago

its a new ip if this was for the ps2 hardware 3 million first week,as its for the ps3 and the price of hardware 1 million first week japan will buy it in the boat loads no doubt this will shift systems but more east than west

TheExecutive6500d ago

I dont have any doubt this will sell great over its lifetime, but the casual gamer is still a year or two out on the ps3. That being said, it should sell a couple million copies which is great. However, I am a little worried with how glitchy this game is going to be for the first few months.

I mean nothing like this has been done before. When this game hits the servers its going to be interesting to see how they react. Also, I am a little worried about the physics of this game not so much the fact that it wont have good physics, but with so many objects reacting in different ways I see a huge potential problem with collision physics. I HOPE that this game isnt really glitchy but I see a huge possibility of it being that way.

Anyway, I am preordering this game and getting it on day one.

-60 MM created maps
-60 tutorial session so we can all learn to build maps
- 4 player co-op both on and offline
-User generated content will be off the hook
-I can play it with my parents, wife, and sister right alongside my gaming friends.

ENOUGH SAID.

Sir_Ken_Kutaragi6501d ago (Edited 6501d ago )

xBox 360 Doomed? YEP!!! ;-D

Just think a Little Cute;)Sack-boy and a Little Cute;)Sack-girl will be the Downfall of the xBox 360!!! ;-D

ELite_Ghost6500d ago

lol, you're insane! but right...

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel741d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga740d ago (Edited 740d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow741d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo182740d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie740d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow740d ago (Edited 740d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere739d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin740d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere739d ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow739d ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere739d ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow739d ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX740d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney739d ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody740d ago (Edited 740d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno740d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Sheppard2740d ago

How did Sony kill the series?

Inverno740d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii740d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno740d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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Most Offensive Video Games That Would Never Cut It Today

Times are changing, and these games would have never been made in today's climate.

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thorstein793d ago (Edited 793d ago )

Every single time someone uses this phrase whether it's music, movies, books, comics, video games, etc it's always the same claim.

The ubiquitous "they" won't allow it to be made. And every decade these claims are made the claimant completely ignores all the "offensive" material that is published when the claim is made.

In ten years, you can write a new article about how you can't make games like Helldivers 2, Resident Evil VIII, Mortal Kombat I, Dragon's Dogma 2, Alan Wake 2 etc etc etc any more.

MrBaskerville793d ago

Yeah, people wouldn't be constantly outraged if there weren't games that people found enraging. The whole SBI discourse shit wouldn't be a thing if all games were inoffensive. A game like Starfield can make a guy froth at his mouth, so there will always be room for a list like this.

0hMyGandhi792d ago

Normally, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but there are massive caveats.
TV shows like Venture Bros, Ren and Stimpy, and Aqua Team wouldn't/couldn't be made today. Hell, Ren and Stimpy was a *children's* show, same thing with Rocko's Modern Life.

It's not for some arbitrary reason, either. It's branding and IP alignment. Companies are far more risk-averse than they were when I was kid in the 90's. Of course, you have companies coming out of the woodwork to hell spur on similar content, but remember: Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and some incredibly provocative material.

And for movies? it's pretty obvious. American Pie/Wedding Crashers/Eurotrip among many other "raunch coms" have fallen out of style, and are absolutely outside what the modern day film industry is willing to stand by.
Ace Ventura 1 and 2, Dumb and Dumber, Freddy Got Fingered, Rat Race, Harold and Kumar, and Van Wilder follow suit.

Remember: I am not explicitly talking about films put onto streamers. I am talking wide-releases in actual theaters. Same thing goes for games: Carmageddon, Duke Nukem, Manhunt, Six Days In Fallujah (with their original concept), Hatred, and so on and so forth. Of course, I'd be inclined to mention most tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Joint Ops as well, due to cultural sensitivity regarding *who* you are shooting and why.

And not all of it is bad (obviously). Tastes change, and perspectives change to fit the demographic.
I should add that I'm a lefty, living in L.A. Working in film.

thorstein792d ago

The Boys, Invincible, Jojo Rabbit, Deadpool, Gen V, Last of Us, Banshee... There are plenty of media being made today that people will claim "can't be made today".

Profchaos792d ago

Yeah but if you consider manhunt which was basically a snuff film could you seriously make that game with high than PS2 era graphics.

thorstein792d ago

The Outlast Trials just came out.

But the storyline of Manhunt was that you were executed. But then lived. And if you didn't do as you were told, you'd die. And the people you killed were not innocents.

It was all filmed by a psychopath.

As we speak GTA VI is being finished up for a release. You get to play a Bonnie and Clyde type of protagonist who run up against the law.

Bodycam looks so real.

People are making those games. Articles like this will always exist no matter how incorrect they are, no matter how many times they blame "them" for whatever it is "they" do to prevent "those" games from being made.

ZycoFox792d ago

The UK is the biggest junk country pandering to that nonsense as well, with laws against free speech and expression to match. It got so bad even Rowan Atkinson made a video on free speech about it.

Now the UK raises the age rating on harmless films like Mary Poppins, it's just a load of pansy weak ass nonsense.

MrDead792d ago (Edited 792d ago )

The right wing Tories have been in power in the UK for the 14 years you know the ones that are "anti-woke", blame them for your perceptions.

Killer2020UK792d ago (Edited 792d ago )

Are these snowflakes in the room with us now?

This is more faux outrage designed to get hits. The consequences are unfortunately creating hysteria amongst those willing to buy into it and blame "them" or "the left" or "liberals" meanwhile the left are kicking off about genocide, actual real world abhorrent acts. Nobody is campaigning to censor this shit.

Huey_My_D_Long792d ago

Not too mention the fact that some of these game are controversial for you know, underage porn and encouraging rape.

So either the guy just came in to comment snowflakes without reading anything, or he is calling people snowflakes for having a problem with said titles. Crazy how much brain rot someone can have.

banger88793d ago

Dead Island: "The early PC version of the zombie game swapped the playable character Purna’s Gender Wars skill with a prototype name, which shouldn’t be mentioned directly. The skill name made fun of both Purna as a character and feminists."

"Feminist Whore" lmao

gold_drake793d ago

ill add one more to the list.
drakengard 1.

its ridiculous tho, especially since they'd still be able to find their place in alot of places in the world. except america of course ha. and maybe Australia.

ppl are so sensitive these days. ha. but it is what it is.

Barlos793d ago (Edited 793d ago )

They're not offensive.

And we need another Fat Princess. Fantastic little game!

Some people just have no sense of humour if this sort of thing offends them. They need to lighten up and stop taking themselves so seriously.

Deeeeznuuuts793d ago

Would love a new fat princess game 🤟

CantThinkOfAUsername793d ago

Games literally about sexual assault, mass genocide, bombing civilians, and school shooting. None of which is satirical.

isarai792d ago

Actually it's about fat princesses

Huey_My_D_Long792d ago (Edited 792d ago )

Its crazy that people are fixated on Fat princess when clearly the list is going over controversies, and not all of them are equal. Like way worse examples but pretend the entire list is like that.

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Top 20 Best PlayStation 3 Games (20-11)

Alex DS. from Link Cable Gaming writes: "Is the PlayStation 3 retro? This is a surprisingly hard question to answer as the system definitely has the age to be considered retro, having launched in 2006, over 15 years ago now. But with it being home to so many massive games, many of which still hold up today and in fact were released for the PlayStation 4 when that console was released, make the PS3 a retro console that doesn’t feel retro."

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shinoff21831479d ago

No ps3 is not retro. I dont even consider ps2 era retro. All imo.

shinoff21831479d ago

Typically, the term retro is given to items which are at least 20 years old (but not yet 40 years old).

Quick google search

badz1491479d ago

No the PS3 is not yet a retro console. But if you're gonna put 1 game from a series in this list, then LBP2 should be there instead of the original, Motorstorm PR is also an overall better game than the 1st game and to put Tools of Destruction over A Crack in Time is a blasphemy when ACiT is the best game in the series.