Changing HDDs is annoying because you have to reinstall everything... And there's no easy to install anything bigger than 2tb...

Just be cause you don't need access to all your stuff, doesnt mean others shouldnt want that luxury.

Games are only going to get bigger...

When did i say other shouldnt want it ? I just mentioned my personal experience .

As for the HDD it's not as if you're supposed to change it many times , you're still basically backing up the 500 initial gb of data . And going over 2tb is a bit overboard right now imo . a 2TB drive is close to over 30 installed games of 50gb each , which most people are unlikely to have and need for quite a while .

If someone still do , then that person should consider really cleaning up stuff everyonce in a while .. it will never be enough . But hey , to each their own .

Yeah but if you need to make space later you can just uninstall and reinstall later with the physical disc. With digital if you delete it then you'll have to redownload the big files. I think that's what Travis was talking about.

@Kurisu

While that's true, that's been a known issue since before the PS4 launched. At least you can do something about it by upgrading your HDD. Download while you play also exist so that helps ease the pain of downloading 50GB.

Are you forgetting about download speeds, throttling, and data caps?

@mhunterjr

I'm not, but are you forgetting that when you get a game day one, you have to get it in the morning at the store or after work, then you have to install it on your console, plus you have to download day one patches, and it's more expensive because of the taxes.

There's a difference between having to download 50GB vs having to just install 50GB.
If I'm downloading it, there's the risk of hitting a data limit cap (if one has such), slowing the internet down for normal use, and dropping connections altogether and not being able to finish.

If it's just an install, there's no internet anything happening and its much simpler. Just put the disk in and let it go to work. If the internet cuts out on you for whatever reason, you don't have to wait for it to come back to install. It'll just keep going. There's no risk that data cap. And one's internet won't slow down.

Even if you drop connections you can resume the download . We're way past those stone age of being blocked at an ingame downloading menu while hoping it doesnt die with the ps4 and xb1 .

There is no fix for caps , however i agree . But the issue still poses itself even in a lesser fashion with patches . My guess is it wont matter much to the cap if its a 40gb full game or a 7gb patch for even the disc version of that . Sadly those folks are still getting screwed

Thats perfectly fine because there is the physical option, without that it leaves ALOT of customers unable to purchase the game.

Until Dawn specifically is a single player story mode game, regardless the point is a large amount of people do not have access to high speed unlimited internet and until they do an all digital future is a problem, not only for consumers but the publishers as well. There is no doubt it would lead to less sales, because aside from people who simply cannot download 40-50gb, there are plenty of people who wont buy full priced digital games for a myriad of reasons.

Where are you getting a 2Tb SSHD for 80-90$?

@ skufflz

I saw a 2.5 2TB for 87$ a month ago.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/of...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/of...

If u find sales u can go cheaper. Shop around. Cyber Monday.

Cool be fine with it. I have a SSHD in my PS4 too. But I'm not living in the here and now. All these games are large, and PS4 isn't yet 2 years old. Space runs out. *Nothing* about having external options is a bad thing. Like Bobertt said, have to question why people would disagree.

*Falls out of chair*

In one month? I find it hard to believe there was even 500Gb worth of games in the first month.