"What is so incredible?"
The whole game clearly that's why people are so interested it.

"Will the game run at 1080p 60fps? No"
does that mean that every game before this generation was terrible because it didn't run at 1080p 60fps? are any first party AAA ps4 games 1080p 60fps? im sure theres not a single one. FOrza 5 is 1080p 60fps is it your favourite game?

"Will the game have ultra textures? No."
Are games only fun with ultra textures lol? do any xbox one or ps4 games have ultra textures? if you want ultra textures so much go game on a pc.

"Will the game have a photo realistic look? No, in fact it looks cartoonist"
Isnt 99% of the ps library anime games that look cartoonish? lol really dude?

"So 20x the power of X1, but does not improve the graphics nor the performance of the game. This were the improvements that X1 fan boys were bragging about 1 year ago. "
HOW DOES IT NOT improve the graphics and performance when you seen a whole city which is destructible LMAO #logic

"Nobody said that cloud computing does not exist, but it was said that cloud computing will not help the graphics and the performance of a game. As seen in Crackdown 3, the Cloud is not improving the graphics as X1 fan boys said since the release of X1."
Again find me a game that's open world which is fully destructible and looks as good as crackdown, Im waiting :)

"Separately, mentioning in a trailer of a game that they utilising 20x the power of X1 just for the destruction of buildings, it is a PR movement specific of MS because:
- the cloud computing is used for a specific and limited purposes, ONLY for destruction of the buildings and ONLY in MP;
- what they showed is nothing new, as there are other games with destruction environment;
- the cloud computing WILL not improve in any way the graphics ot performance of the game, but will only be used for some gimmicks during MP"
Now come on dude, how can we take you seriously lol. Only thing your hate is doing is showing us fans that this game just killed it :)

Man your not happy? What did Crackdown and Cloudgine do to you?

Sheesh. You act surprised and just angry. 2 years ago they said the game will be cloud based. 2 years later what do you know its cloud based.

Damn man.

The artistic style of this game has been cell shaded graphics. Its like saying why does crash bandicoot does not look realistic? A question that does need to be answered. This type of destruction has never been seen before. Most of the games you have seen so far were pre-define chunks and never as granular as what we are seeing with Crackdown. So far your argument as to having to fit into a certain style and certain performance to define it as a good game is false. The Order 1886 is a perfect poster child in which they used some of the best graphics yet you weren't even able to interact with anything except for some items. This is not a gimmick this is a step up from anything we have previously seen. Imagine a true Superman game with this tech in which you are fighting General Zod and are smashing right through buildings. You should be applauding this since we are seeing the future of gaming in Crackdown 3

AI has been done since before Runescape Classic. And, Forza's implementation was your console creating the AI file and uploading it to let it play matchmaking with other players. The cloud itself wasn't telling the AI when to turn or brake.

Lighting wouldn't be feasible unless they cast the entire world. Which in that case might as well be pre-baked rather than dynamic because it won't be fast enough due to server limitations and latency. Lighting is typically a lot more demanding than physics. And, if they didn't have a high demand for quality lighting then there would be no purpose of ridding the console of the burden.

Physics has been done server side for a long time as well. Granted this is on a bigger scale than most others. Roblox isn't even far off from this. Everyone keeps brushing off Red Faction because of clipping and other physics issues it has. Okay? It has issues. But, it's still very close to the same effect and was done on last gen consoles with no issue and no required server processing. It still has just as much and even more destruction in some cases, glitches and clipping aside.

They aren't going to do cloth and hair. That needs to be updated as fast as possible. Latency would have huge issues alone, not to mention the differences in physics they have to buildings composed of giant flat polygons compared to high polygon character models that move constantly and have so much more variables than just gravity and simple explosion physics.

I'm not trying to be a Debby-Downer all the time but it kills me when people raise the bar before it is set when you don't understand how it works and the history of the subject. This is not new technology whatsoever and it isn't advanced. The "possibilities" you talk of are ridiculously expensive and irresponsible to try when latency alone, not counting development difficulty, expense on server hardware, and limited market appeal is such an issue, that by the time this becomes feasible on a much more noticeable scale the new consoles will be out and can process everything to a better degree 1:1 in real time with no need to be online just to play the game, unless of course it is online only, but not everyone is going to limit themselves to online only just to get a theoretical graphics improvement.

And, I still don't see the impressiveness of Crackdown 3's physics. It still isn't advanced. I literally can compare it to Roblox, but with more jagged edges. Battlefield. Red Faction, with less glitching.

It looks very fun. Yes. But, it is NOT innovation when it comes to server technology. And, the graphics certainly don't scream that the server is off-loading much from the home console.

@sinspirit

you know there was a time when people thought it was physically impossible to run a 4 minute mile. Then Roger Bannister did it and after it was believed to be possible many others were able to do the same. While the technology isn't entirely new, MS and their engineers are using it to push the limits of what we expect from server side computations.

No one knows what the future holds. We need people to push and innovate instead of say it can't be done, or it is impossible.

Also things are done in baby steps

Rome wasn't built in a day.

At least we have progress, it may not be the prettiest game but a city with buildings built out of concrete and re-bar and windows etc pretty cool

@sinspirit

Your hold post sounds like someone in 1969 saying this about Apollo 11:

"pfft humans landing on the moon isn't special, sending objects into space has been done before"

-HOLD ON..Now of course this is many levels of magnitude LESS dramatic or important than obviously the Apollo mission but the point is that in the gaming world its a pretty significant step up vs what's been done in the past, yet your posts seems intent on downplaying how vast the scale is between what this demonstration of Crackdown 3 is showing vs the past examples you speak of.

-I mean even the way you gloss over a unique feature like Forza's AI, although you give some fairly accurate description, you seem to act like its not innovative just because the Cloud and the tech has existed for awhile before its not much really, but again WHO was using it like this before??? I'd say both of these things are innovative, by either the enormous scale difference requiring computational power that as of now doesn't exist on either next gen console or because the creativity involving a dev to implement AI in ways nobody else is doing.

-The question or criticism should never be solely based on if "the tech existed before" but rather based on are they(the devs/creators) trying to push much higher beyond or create new experiences for the tech that already existed before? -I'd say that's exactly why Crackdown 3 is a innovative next gen experience.

-Finally I don't think its smart to say "they will never....", frankly you just don't know what tricks a smart dedicated person might discover...hell just this Crackdown 3 gameplay has already proved some others wrong who said "Microsoft's Cloud talk is all BS, it will *never be really useful in games." -Anything close to 100% destruction, adds a lot of interesting gameplay moments that have been previously not possible= that sounds very useful to me.

Seriously ? the PS4 by itself is more powerful than the XBONE by itself. That is a known fact. It's also been shown in almost every multiplatform game that's been released recently.
I'm sorry, but 'It's a myth'.Really ?

Yes, this cloud destruction BLEW MY MIND. Yes, that is one of the most next gen things, if not THE most next gen thing I've seen. Yes, I LOVED MS gamescom conference and I think the games are STRONG AS HELL. I'm a PC gamer, and I think MS is going to do well this gen, and do I want an XBONE now ? ABSOLUTELY !

All that, however, is besides the point. I suppose all those multiplats running at a higher resolution and at better framerates in some cases - those must also be myths right ? Yeah, it's all myth. The fact that the PS4 simply has more processing power hardware wise is also just a myth, right ?

The PS4 does have the stronger GPU but building a console is really about balance and MS is really starting to show what the XB1 is capable of. Give it another 2 or 3 years when full DX 12 games are ready for release and we will really see what it can do

I need to correct that statement, since it is simply extremely wrong!
It really seems like most people do not realize what is going on here.. Keep in mind that the cloud is just servers, so I will use the term server..

The XboxOne can't do this by itself, actually it is only rendering what the server is telling it to do, and sending the inputs from the console to the server. Then the server, on which the game actually is running, is calculating the game loop and sending back what to render. Quite simply put, this is somewhat streaming, but instead of doing the PSNow way (essential a video), the XboxOne possibly gets some information and then render the game. It is a completely normalt way of doing multiplayer games..!

So no, it won't be 20x more powerful..
Now, the tech here is impressive, and MS has properly made it much easier to develop through some awesome API's, but this is entirely possible to do on every other platform! The Azuera cloud is just enabling it, instead of a developer to produce the servers themselves to do the calculating of destruction.

@Selech you split hairs if you want , ms is doing cutting edge stuff that it will take sony 10 years to catch up with (maybe never unless they buy amazon) . do i care where the processing is being done , answer no , i'll just be happy having a next gen experience i can't get anywhere else .

I was really impress with QB trailer, but here i dont understand the hype.

I think QB is just on another level.

Ok that's good, cause I couldn't hear anything he said.

^^^This.

-Sometimes I question if I'm in la-la-land on n4g, the game is literally using multiple servers to run calculations way beyond what X1 and PS4 processing power combined can do and folks who don't understand say "ahhh they did this last gen", smh but hey the important thing is the devs are smart people who are looking to do new things, thankfully they are not closed minded, which is why they are moving gaming forward and many of us just play the games.

Ah yes the whole city is destructible I would like to see this running as intended but I only saw one building come down, That's what I mean by "cant XBox One do this by itself".

Edit - Ok now I have seen a better video of the game with more of the destruction part and yes your right the XBox may not be able to run that, looks nice :).

Hilarious that you mention spying when you are been violated every single day from your constituional amendment by your own government and by big private coorporations and you worry about a private corporation of entertainment "spy" on you.....

I get it, but that's a shame they were purchased by a big corporation to be turned into that. Who knows, maybe the Chinese market will get into console/PC gaming without it being an MMO or some mobile-like microtransactioned game. This company Tencent isn't exactly on the top of my list when it comes to publishing.

@CrimsonWings69
I agree.
I doubt Tencent is getting into console gaming at least no time soon because mobile is where the real gaming money is at and Tencent owns the Asian market.

I liked crackdown lol. Even then at least they bought some developers instead of forcing kids and Muslims to make them for free. Baby steps.

That’s right, giving money to Tencent means supporting the internment of Uyghur Muslims, Social Credit scores and caste systems which permanently impoverish families and permanently enrich others based purely on bloodlines.

I wasn't sure how it worked I knew Microsoft published Crackdown and I knew Sony published Sackboy I would hate to see Sackboy get sucked up into corporate bullshit and die off I like the LBP games.