"ps fanboys...do you honestly think the Ps4 would have 1.81 teraflops if the xbox one didn't exist?"
Wow... just... wow...

For the sake of the industry, Xbox must always lose to PlayStation.

We saw what Microsoft had in store for the gaming industry when they unveiled the Xbox One and were sure they would be the industry leader this gen.

Also, look at how Japanese games are getting more and more popular again since the PS4 has been dominating. If the PS4 and Xbox One sales numbers were swapped, hardly any Japanese devs would even bother still making console games.

Abash..

You can't honestly believe that.

Winning is absolutely subjective are you kidding me? Jurassic world is like the 3rd highest grossing movie of all time. Does that mean that it's the 3rd best movie of all time? Come on Cindy.

@tiny

I would just like to start off by sayin, Jurrasic world is an awesome movie. Now that's off my chest, on to business!

Obviously JW is not the best movie ever but it's income clearly shows it's the most popular box office movie among the general population (pretty sure Chris Pratt had a lot to do with that :P ), regardless of the fact that the Green Mile is actually the best movie ever ;). So in popularity, we can say it's "winning" due to how well it's done in box office.

Also no one is sayin the ps4 is the best console ever (I mention best console ever because you mentioned best movie ever). It has the most sales this generation between itself, xb1 and wii u, therefore it is the most popular console of the generation, therefore it is "winning" the generation.

Numbers cannot be subjectified, they are what they are.

You may disagree that the PS4 is the best console of choice this generation and infact would rather choose the wii u or XB1 but that doesn't change the fact that out of everyone who has jumped into the current generation of gaming consoles, the majority have chosen PS4. That could change in the future and one of the other consoles could see a surge in sales and surpass it, making that console the most popular and therefore it will be "winning", but as it stands, PS4 is on top.

which gives MS a reason to continue to deliver top tier games and ensure strong partnerships with 3rd party studios. Which is a win for Xbox gamers.

It's either that, or just give up. And I don't see that happening.

@suckingeggs

I agree with some of what you say. At the end of the day, sales matter to Ms, sony and nintendo..and publishers. As gamers? it dont matter as long as your console is giving you the goods. I have a hard time imagining nintedo fans worrying about the WiiU install base when they are looking forward to xenogears and zelda while playing splatoon, Smash bros. and mario kart. We should all take a leaf out of their book.lol

They have lost this round. they know it. they know they are picking up the pieces. But their will be a nextbox. And thats what really matters here. they wont make those mistakes again. And if sony as a company continue to lose money outside of playstation, they may find fighting the next round against MS considerably more difficult than in the past. MS wont make those mistakes twice. They like to win. and they take this stuff a bit personally. They will ride out the storm this gen, and they will be coming back for blood.

In the meantime...I have a lot of xbox games to look forward to.

@neon

Im with you dude Microsoft are really trying Im personally excited for the new dashboard and gears of war remastered as Ive never played gears of war before.

We gamers are winning..

But from a business point of view which is what Sony,microsoft and even Nintendo (which is why less than 3 years they are releasing a new console) care about are sales.... And Microsoft are losing.

So third party partnerships you speak of will be harder for Microsoft due to a gap of over ten million less sales bro.

@flex

I hope there is a next xbox

After this generation who knows Microsoft lost alot of money this gen not only on Kinect but Price drops which Microsoft Did at a loss..im Just looking at this situation realistically bro

As a gamer I personally believe Microsoft have outdone themselves in turning around the disastrous reveal ..never thought I'd get a one but Im the proud owner of a white xb1 (Plus a ps4) ...

Gamers for the win..

At the end of the day, would you not get Black Ops 3 or Battlefront because the PS4 has an earlier Beta, or some extra timed DLC?

Sure it helps to be on the "winning" consoles side for a bit of extra preferential treatment, but the games will still come for Xbox. It's not like 3rd party studios are going to say, we are only releasing games for Sony from now on.

Xbox will get most of them for the time being since it's still #2. But I'm more responding to the idea in general that winning/losing in sales has no effect on the end user. It certainly does.

Not really.. Every game wants a marketing deal and its basically like advertising.. Top dollar wins the contract..

Ea doesn't really care if Sony or ms markets their games.. Whoever pays the most gets the deal..

Bf3 was on Sony, bf4 on Xbox etc..

Exclusive deals are a bit different as the fewer units sold will mean a high price for the rights..

Take tomb raider.. Popular game in a genre ms doesn't have a big presence and it fills the holiday gap while games like quantum break etc are finishing up..

Sony wanted a good fighting game to go against KI so they secured SF.. etc.. Always a reason beyond the popular console getting everything

Thats funny I have both and ps4 is king for me.

@bmwfanatic

Thats great for you. Why do you feel the need to tell us though? You already know we prefer xbox and we dont really talk. Infact me and you have had less than civil conversations before... Im sure you are a nice guy deep down, but you sound a bit insecure. Nice name btw. I have a lovely 135M, even bought the LED steering wheel from the dealership for it...was a 30 minute fit. right there and then. Hoping to get an M4 in a few years. What you got?

@flexluger
So let me get this straight...the ps4 is not only winning the sales battle, but also has more games available to play, both indie, 3rd party, and exclusive, with more games in development of all varieties to boot...and on top of all that, the ps4 has several exclusives rated higher than 90 on metacritic while the xbox one has precisely ZERO...and on top of that the ps4 has more games rated 80 or higher as well...but to you that means xbox is "king right now". LOL. Son, you make us laugh.